2008.07.03 a significant day?

  • #121
Boy...where to start...well, I figure Casey just dumped the car so she wouldn't have to drive Tony to the Airport, and then have to explain the smell. As soon as Tony was leaving, she was gas can hunting, again, to pick up the car, imo...Amy said she left Casey, with her gas cans, around 5 pm on the 30th of June, 4:53 pm Special K was called...it seems, as soon as Amy left, Casey called Special K.

Casey starts asking Amy for a gas can on June 29th, in an a.m. text...Amy replies she has to work, Casey say "🤬🤬🤬🤬. I forgot."

Pg. 1016.…………… Casey stays the night of the June 29th, and Tony leaves for New York on June 30th. In addition, his roommate, Cameron, also has a flight to Ohio.

Pg. 1044.…………… On June 30th Amy tells Casey why don’t we go to Target and buy a gas can. You can use it and return it to me. So, Casey drives Tony’s jeep to Target. Returned from store and stayed with Amy (Amy is pretty sure) until she left for work at either 5 or 6 pm.

http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/discovery_doc_index.html

Now, did Casey go by Amscot, see there was no car on the 30th of June and called Special K to ask ...Stephanie K? Did Stephanie let Lee or Mallory know about the car on the 3rd of July? Maybe, ask about it? Ask if Casey got it?

I am really starting to think the 3rd of Julys action had something to do with Special K/Stephanie and the car...Special K calls Casey at 7 am on the 4th...hmmm....

Sounds very possible.

I'm still a little confused on the whole gas can thing. According to the new documents released the gauge was working fine and I believe there was gas in the car (unless I read it wrong), so why did she make such a big deal about getting the cans?
 
  • #122
Sounds very possible.

I'm still a little confused on the whole gas can thing. According to the new documents released the gauge was working fine and I believe there was gas in the car (unless I read it wrong), so why did she make such a big deal about getting the cans?

Maybe she simply knew she was low, George did put gas in the car...not sure of the level, though...
 
  • #123
Back to July 3 and surrounding time period...

July 2--very early that AM, just after midnight in fact, the "Anthony Home" (probably CA) leaves 8 voice mails in a row for KC. KC finally picks up the call around 7:15, then calls back and has a much longer conversation (22 minutes) around 8:00 am. Shortly thereafter she composes her "Diary of Days" poem, which appears to me to be saying, "Mom when you find out what happened just remember it was your fault."

July 3 the calls and texts from Cindy are incessant, including some pretty lengthy voice mails. Most are ignored, but eventually KC has a few "in person" discussions with Cindy, including a 17-minute conversation that starts at 3:21. Maybe this is when KC gives her all the details of when and where she can meet up with the invisible nanny and Caylee?

Around 6:45 Cindy calls KC for 10 minutes. They text for a while until KC starts ignoring her at about 7:30.

At 8:44 pm, Cindy posts "my caylee is missing" on a myspace created (by Lee, probably) just for that purpose. http://cayleeanthony.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/cindy-anthony-deleted-myspace.jpg

I think Cindy figured out while at Universal that KC did not work there--thus her comment in "my caylee is missing" about KC having "no money, no future." KC finally starts texting her again later in the evening, switching to communicating with Lee and Mallory after 1:00 am.
 
  • #124
July 3rd...

Jesse Grund receives text from Casey on the 3rd and talked to her on the 4th...

Casey said something going on w/Parents, do not talk to them...

Jesse said this on Dr. Phil tonight, with his Father by his side...I will post video link when available...
 
  • #125
July 3rd...

Jesse Grund receives text from Casey on the 3rd and talked to her on the 4th...

Casey said something going on w/Parents, do not talk to them...

Jesse said this on Dr. Phil tonight, with his Father by his side...I will post video link when available...

I believe the call was before Lee contacted Casey (when she wanted to leave the lodge). Do we know what time Casey got the call from Lee?

07/03/08

3:19:19 PM Casey to Jesse
3:38:30 PM Casey to Jesse
3:39:04 PM Casey to Jesse
3:48:33 PM Jesse to Casey
3:49:12 PM Casey to Jesse
3:49:47 PM Jesse to Casey
 
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In an attempt not to further clutter WWW's July 3 thread (this one), I put all my notes about Stephanie K/ Special K in a new thread, which you are all cordially invited to visit. :)

No problem. :)
 
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Yes, agreed, but it is an active session, meaning the links you posted will not work without the search, that is what I meant for anyone that may not know that when clicking on them ans not familiar.

Ah! Thanks for pointing that out. :)
 
  • #133
Just going to interject my basic idea about these calls on the 3rd and 4th...I think on the 3rd, CA was hoping to have Caylee to go watch fireworks somewhere. Of course, there IS no more Caylee so KC avoids her calls. CA becomes more desperate. Finally KC calls her when she figures CA is probably at her wit's end because she can't get KC on the phone.

KC gets snippy or whatever is necessary to push a few of CA's buttons and start a fight. Now she has good reason not to produce Caylee (which she can't). I think on the 4th or late late on the 3rd Mallory/Lee get involved to try to save the day for CA who is having a meltdown because it's been a couple weeks since she's heard from Caylee.

Maybe Mallory and Lee are trying to convince KC that it will be a "good time" and the whole family will be together....all their efforts are in vain...

As for the Special K calls - no idea. I thought I remember something about Special K being Kiomarie but I guess that was wrong?

Just a theory I'm tossing around...
 
  • #134
Just going to interject my basic idea about these calls on the 3rd and 4th...I think on the 3rd, CA was hoping to have Caylee to go watch fireworks somewhere. Of course, there IS no more Caylee so KC avoids her calls. CA becomes more desperate. Finally KC calls her when she figures CA is probably at her wit's end because she can't get KC on the phone.

KC gets snippy or whatever is necessary to push a few of CA's buttons and start a fight. Now she has good reason not to produce Caylee (which she can't). I think on the 4th or late late on the 3rd Mallory/Lee get involved to try to save the day for CA who is having a meltdown because it's been a couple weeks since she's heard from Caylee.

Maybe Mallory and Lee are trying to convince KC that it will be a "good time" and the whole family will be together....all their efforts are in vain...

As for the Special K calls - no idea. I thought I remember something about Special K being Kiomarie but I guess that was wrong?

Just a theory I'm tossing around...

I agree that she was using her fight with her mom as an excuse to keeping Caylee away, but I still wonder what ever became of the runaround that she gave Lee. Her call to Special K is also odd, exspecially if this is Stephanie from Amscot. Do we have cell phone records for Lee? I was looking in all the docs I have and can't seem to find any.
 
  • #135
I copied this post over from the Amscot, "Special K" thread as it has to do with July 3rd as well as Stephanie and Kyle. On Kyle's myspace his name is shown as "Freak".


I was looking for something and ran across "Diary of Days", Aug. doc. dump. pt 1, pg. 27. I scrolled down and did a double take when I saw "MY Subscriptions", bottom left corner of page.
Bryson
Freak
Stephanie * (*=heart)
..annie..
Lee/A##hole/Wampa

It did strike me.
 
  • #136
I keep thinking there is a connection here we are missing. Special K to Kyle K to KC. I don't know how to find out if the LAPD followed up on the connection to KK and Steven John Burgess in the Donna Jou case. It is a huge long shot, but how do we see if there was a connection?????
 
  • #137
Its interesting that the next day there is a text to amy saying 'Jp and I are good'- what happened with JP? why is he on the witness list, but we still dont have a transcript? So theres alot more to this date that they are holding back.

They're leaving all the good stuff out- Not fair!!!!

I always wondered about the "JP and I are good" text, too. (And I'd always wondered since the beginning where his LE interview was, too, since she and Caylee had been living there in his house quite a bit....whether RM was the official "boyfriend" most of the time they were there or not, it was still JP's house and he was a roommate...)
 
  • #138
How many of us have ever heard of the family of a victim of kidnapping immediately thinking of setting up a MySpace page about the missing child and texting all their friends that the child was missing all while waiting for police to arrive to make the initial report of kidnapping?

No one does this. It was a dual effort at a cover up from the beginning. They were frantically trying to backpedal to give kc's story to LE some credibility. They knew the fact no friends knew about Caylee missing for 31 days was going to be a big problem. They were IMO hoping to get to the friends before LE, and crossing their fingers the friends would just simply say "yes, we knew" and not mention when they were told. I think the myspace was created the morning after the initial report to LE. It makes no sense to try and explain this behavior any other way. They knew kc's friends didn't have Caylee, and that they would not have any information that would lead to "zanny". They were trying to CYA.

Reading through this thread has really given me something to think about. So, Cindy is frantic enough to play games with kc on myspace and send lee out to find her, so she obviously knows something is very wrong. Why didn't she contact LE instead of playing these little games?
 

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