2008.08.04 Cindy A. Interview "REVISITED"

[magic-cat]

I know, and this Jeff was the one Casey claimed introduced her to Zani. And that he had a son (not true). In JG's words, she's "diabolical".

Do you have a link that shows he did not have a son? and remember, when this info came out they then conveniently came up with ANOTHER J. Hopkins, not THIS one...

Calling Casey diabolical is like saying it's warm in hell...VERY understated opinion...she is far more than diabolical-she is demonic at the very least.:furious:

 

[magic-cat]

I would be annoyed at LE myself if it took LE 3 weeks to come to me (the parents) and get a timeline of what I know as a parent(s). Look at all the info Cindy had to offer via Casey's "stories" lies. The most important one was on July 3rd when Cindy went to Universal to get Caylee. I feel Casey must of told Cindy via a text or phone call that Caylee was with the nanny at Universal, so Cindy went there. And then at some point on July 3rd Cindy posted to her MySpace page.

LE was at Cindy's house when Cindy dumped all of Casey's clothes on the floor. LE did not confiscate them at that time, so Cindy washed them etc.

Cindy did help LE in this interview as Cindy gave LE the stories that Casey had told Cindy. Although the stories go nowhere, but Cindy gave LE what Casey told Cindy.

I am not sticking up for Cindy by no means, but I could understand Cindy's frustration regarding why LE didn't come to the parents for a timeline sooner considering Casey and Caylee lived at the house.

Hi Patty. It may very well be that LE wanted to get all the outsider opinions before they added in the insiders opinions, so they would have a better idea if anyone was not being completely honest from the "inner circle". That makes sense to me...they compile a great deal of info from the "outside" players, and compare THAT and then they have a fairly good view of certain things...THEN add in the "inside" players, and it would be VERY easy to see if someone was not being honest. By the time Cindy gave THIS statement it was crystal clear what parts of Casey's stories were lies...and after all, Casey was not WITH her family during that month when she did not report her daughter missing, she was with the "outsiders"...It makes sense to me that they did it in this order...but that is just me...:blowkiss:

 

[magic-cat]

I am totally at a loss...I lost a child due to an accident....he was hit by a car.....how CA can sit there and even make a complete sentence is beyond me.......where are the tears? where is the anger that this little child is missing? I am trying to be compassionate for her but something just reeks.....somebody for God's sake cry out for this little child.

Nana-I am truly sorry for the loss that you have suffered...I think there is not a greater sorrow in this world and my deepest heartfelt sympathies I offer here...You must be a very strong lady and a TRUE winner that you are still out here trying to make a difference and I commend you for that. Many blessings to you and may the love and peace of God surround you evermore...

 

[Muzikman]

Do you also have George's interview from that same day on that CD?

Yes I do. It's also on CF News 13 site and probably a couple other news sites, but if they aren't good quality I can upload it, just let me know -

 

[nancy botwin]

I seriously doubt in the short time that she worked for Kodak that she was awarded Employee of the Year, since she did not even work for them for a full year...she has either stolen it or worse, had it made for herself somewhere just for proof to her parents...she is very sad...

Exactly-- I actually chortled when I read the "employee of the year" post to which you're referring. Would a photo kiosk in an amusement park even have an "employee of the year"?? And just like you said, she didn't work there for more than like 6 months, I don't think?
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I know a lot of people probably don't agree with me, but I truly feel sympathy for Cindy Anthony whenever I read/listen to her statements. To me, she sounds like a woman who has been spun around in a thousand circles and has lost/is losing her ability to reason. Of course there does seem to be a lot of dysfunction in the Anthony family-- but we don't have a flowchart to illuminate where the dysfunction starts and stops... it's possible that CA is the quintessential narcissistic mother who's reaping what she's sewn (in many people's eyes), but it's equally possible that her current behavior is a symptom of living with an acutely personality disordered daughter who has manipulated her and stolen everything she valued most. Maybe it's a little of both-- I just hope Cindy realizes that she's not responsible for her daughter's decision to harm Caylee.

I hope everyone has taken a moment to put themselves in Cindy's shoes-- imagine two of the most important people in your life-- people for whom you feel responsible. Imagine one is missing and the other is a suspect who claims to have info about how to find your missing loved one, as long as you play by their rules because only they hold the key... I truly think I'd be acting totally crazy if I were in Cindy's shoes. I think I would actually act a lot stranger than we've seen Cindy act.

 

[nancy botwin]

Yes I do. It's also on CF News 13 site and probably a couple other news sites, but if they aren't good quality I can upload it, just let me know -

I looked on CF News 13 and a few others-- WESH, OrlandoSentinel, local6, Sun Sentinel-- I can't find the George Anthony August 4 audio-- it's different from the one previously released, right?
Could you possibly give a link?? Sorry if I'm overlooking something obvious-- i really appreciate your help!
Also, I noticed today that the Orlando Sentinel added some of the photobucket images from the CD you shared with us yesterday. It looks like you're the trailblazer for the media right now-- very cool Thanks again for sharing all the info.

 

[Muzikman]

I looked on CF News 13 and a few others-- WESH, OrlandoSentinel, local6, Sun Sentinel-- I can't find the George Anthony August 4 audio-- it's different from the one previously released, right?
Could you possibly give a link?? Sorry if I'm overlooking something obvious-- i really appreciate your help!
Also, I noticed today that the Orlando Sentinel added some of the photobucket images from the CD you shared with us yesterday. It looks like you're the trailblazer for the media right now-- very cool Thanks again for sharing all the info.

Only one George interview released so far to my knowledge - although there must be another unreleased, as it's labeled GeorgeOne, probably Aug 1? not sure. It's on the CF News 13 site -
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sideba...dings_of_interviews_from_law_enforcement.html

No problem, I like to share... Maybe the Sentinel is reading this site and saw the Photobucket thread?

 

[karenz]

The fact is the truth is the truth. No matter how you slice it, the shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line. CA is just smoke and mirrors. KC is the straight line.

 

[DebC]

Hi Patty. It may very well be that LE wanted to get all the outsider opinions before they added in the insiders opinions, so they would have a better idea if anyone was not being completely honest from the "inner circle". That makes sense to me...they compile a great deal of info from the "outside" players, and compare THAT and then they have a fairly good view of certain things...THEN add in the "inside" players, and it would be VERY easy to see if someone was not being honest. By the time Cindy gave THIS statement it was crystal clear what parts of Casey's stories were lies...and after all, Casey was not WITH her family during that month when she did not report her daughter missing, she was with the "outsiders"...It makes sense to me that they did it in this order...but that is just me...:blowkiss:

I agree. Cindy was told by Yuri three days previously that the timeline that KC had been giving her was lies. NOT THE TRUTH. It's LE's job to get to the truth. The factual truth, not KC's liar truth. And, because they did the timeline in this order, they made sure that they were nearer to the truth than if they had gone to CA first and given any credence to what she was contibuting to the timeline. Very logical and professional work on their part.

 

[bobodedoo]

I love the claim that she hasn't eaten, "lack of food" comment at the time she asked if the conversation is being recorded to explain away any "mistruths" or "misstatements" she makes ... oh, and don't forget her inability to remember things accurately. I'll have to remember that when someone starts asking me questions I don't want to answer.

I do feel for her, but her behavior in throwing detectives off the trail is disgusting.

The comment about JH as a boyfriend on KC cell phone... she said that she saw that on her cell phone several yrs ago.

 

[TxLady2]

As I recall, Martha Stewart went to federal prison for one crime only: Lying to Investigators.

I guess it's okay to lie to local and state investigators but not to federal investigators? ?

That is true... You can get away with lying to state or local LE but NOT to the feds.
I don't believe Cindy or George could be prosecuted for lying, because they are relating what Casey told them... and you can't be prosecuted for believing someone's lies. OCSO has been pretty lenient with both of them, because of this. It's suspicious to us because Casey is so transparent... but that is their daughter and they can't see her in the same light that we do.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

That is true... You can get away with lying to state or local LE but NOT to the feds.
I don't believe Cindy or George could be prosecuted for lying, because they are relating what Casey told them... and you can't be prosecuted for believing someone's lies. OCSO has been pretty lenient with both of them, because of this. It's suspicious to us because Casey is so transparent... but that is their daughter and they can't see her in the same light that we do.

They are not just lying about things Casey has said to them if you will go back and check. And yes...they can be prosecuted for Obstruction plus various other things. The question is if the DA will ever charge them for it.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Only one George interview released so far to my knowledge - although there must be another unreleased, as it's labeled GeorgeOne, probably Aug 1? not sure. It's on the CF News 13 site -
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sideba...dings_of_interviews_from_law_enforcement.html

No problem, I like to share... Maybe the Sentinel is reading this site and saw the Photobucket thread?

You are appreciated here! Bravo for all you have done, Muzikman! :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[ArtichokeHeart]

It sounds like she is going to try and pin Caylee's death on LE directly if she can't figure out a way to pin it on Zenaida Amy Tony Ricardo Jesse Fernandez-Gonzalez.

Right. She has turned the whole world upside down; all the good guys are now bad (LE, Padilla, NG) and all the bad (Cindy herself, Casey) are good. It is she and her daughter against the whole world.

 

[ArtichokeHeart]

Thank you, Patty, for all of your posts on this thread and reminding us of Cindy's perspective. Casey may have lied to her mom, but I don't think Cindy was lying to LE. Cindy just relayed to LE what she had been told by her daughter (at the request of LE).

What is she a recording machine, a mule, a messenger, a brainless oaf?

 

[ArtichokeHeart]

damn, you are on a roll tonight! You sound like me!

To: OneLost Girl. Thanks. I've enjoyed reading your posts...Have much sympatico. My mother was a narcissist and I've had much therapy (not very helpful therapy actually but I did get to hear and see a lot ) and am learning a whole lot here. In fact this is the first time I have met others like myself and read so much about my mother. No therapist ever talked to me about her and I never knew how to do it myself. I once wanted to write a book about what i had been through and decided against it because the stories were so absurd people would just throw up their arms in angst not being able to take anymore.

I never had anyone to talk to as a child and from watching all this unfold before our eyes I wonder if there could be some way to set up some kind of org to help such children cause for sure telling such a child to behave and go home qnd listen to their mother isn't going to cut it.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

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I hope everyone has taken a moment to put themselves in Cindy's shoes-- imagine two of the most important people in your life-- people for whom you feel responsible. Imagine one is missing and the other is a suspect who claims to have info about how to find your missing loved one, as long as you play by their rules because only they hold the key... I truly think I'd be acting totally crazy if I were in Cindy's shoes. I think I would actually act a lot stranger than we've seen Cindy act.

If I were in Cindy's shoes I definately would be my granddaughters voice.

I would have taken a stance on July 15th when I found out my granddaughter was missing, after I smelled death in that car. After Casey's 30day jail stint, after the preliminary tests came back from the body farm, after DNA of that hair in the trunk, I would have stood beside LE, telling the public, I will love and support my child Casey and if it is found she had anything to do with the death of my granddaughter Caylee, then she will have to pay for that. If it's jail time, then so be it.

Out of Cindy's own mouth she's told Casey's friends, she is a pathological liar, she is a sociopath, she is a thief, so stay away from her...Take those words and eat them Cindy for you are falling for everything you've told others to be aware of....:furious:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

You know, I have tried to put myself in her shoes. I can't.

As much as I love my children, I have a duty to my grandchildren to make sure they are safe from harm and being well taken care of. It is part of my role as a grandparent because I am on the inside of the family and should be aware of what is going on. If I turned my back on my grandchild to enable my child to abuse or neglect...I am no better than the abuser and in fact...I would be worse because I could have stopped it or prevented it from happening at all.

I would not lie for my children in order to cover up a crime especially involving one of my grandchildren. I would not allow this scenario that is being perpetuated by CA.

So no...my feet won't fit in her shoes because they are full of BS (IMO).

 

[Nana46]

You know, I have tried to put myself in her shoes. I can't.

As much as I love my children, I have a duty to my grandchildren to make sure they are safe from harm and being well taken care of. It is part of my role as a grandparent because I am on the inside of the family and should be aware of what is going on. If I turned my back on my grandchild to enable my child to abuse or neglect...I am no better than the abuser and in fact...I would be worse because I could have stopped it or prevented it from happening at all.

I would not lie for my children in order to cover up a crime especially involving one of my grandchildren. I would not allow this scenario that is being perpetuated by CA.

So no...my feet won't fit in her shoes because they are full of BS (IMO).

Amen sister.....Preach it:clap:

 

[Maddywv]

IMO the only hope is for George to take Caylee's side. IT is time, he knows the truth.... they all do. BUT Lee and Cindy will not let the truth out even if that means NEVER bringing Caylee to rest. George can do this. George is the only one to do this.