2008.08.04 Cindy A. Interview "REVISITED"

[LeLe1953]

I just got the chance to listen to the "missing" tape of Cindy. What stood out to me was two things: 1 she tried to control the interview 2. she kept wanting a copy of the text messages from Casey to her. She said it would "jog" her memory of what their phone conversations were about. I think it was so she could keep backing up Casey's story but couldnt recall all the lies that had been told.
It still amazes me that she questions everyone's motives except for Casey's.
Cindy IMO is going to really struggle under oath. I would not be surprised to see her take the 5th.

 

[Pink Panther]

I just got the chance to listen to the "missing" tape of Cindy. What stood out to me was two things: 1 she tried to control the interview 2. she kept wanting a copy of the text messages from Casey to her. She said it would "jog" her memory of what their phone conversations were about. I think it was so she could keep backing up Casey's story but couldnt recall all the lies that had been told.
It still amazes me that she questions everyone's motives except for Casey's.
Cindy IMO is going to really struggle under oath. I would not be surprised to see her take the 5th.

I don't think that she's allowed to take the 5th, is she?

 

[Janis396]

I don't think that she's allowed to take the 5th, is she?

From what I understand, that is only an option for the accused.

 

[MarleneM]

I'm wondering how many hours/days/months of the murder trial time is going to be wasted with CA's blathering on and on and ON with all the irrelevant minutia she loves to spew forth.

Hopefully just long enough for the jury to see that CA (like KC) in incapable of answering a direct question with a direct answer. I just want the panel to hear enough of her distractable and evasive ramblings to trust that anything she says is unreliable. I'd give her enough rope to hang herself on irrelevant simple questions, so when we got to the bigger matters the jury knows to take anything out of CA's mouth with a grain of salt.

 

[Janis396]

Hopefully just long enough for the jury to see that CA (like KC) in incapable of answering a direct question with a direct answer. I just want the panel to hear enough of her distractable and evasive ramblings to trust that anything she says is unreliable. I'd give her enough rope to hang herself on irrelevant simple questions, so when we got to the bigger matters the jury knows to take anything out of CA's mouth with a grain of salt.

Oh, I'm sure when CA is on the stand, we're going to hear many, many "Objection, your honor. UNRESPONSIVE"'s from the DA.

 

[Pink Panther]

From what I understand, that is only an option for the accused.

That's what I thought...I think that she will be VERY interesting on the stand. Very similar to what we saw at the Bond hearing except there, the line of questioning was a lot less agressive than it will be! She got away with a lot of her drivelling at the bond hearing and I don't think she'll be able to do that in the next "go round".
MOO

 

[Janis396]

That's what I thought...I think that she will be VERY interesting on the stand. Very similar to what we saw at the Bond hearing except there, the line of questioning was a lot less agressive than it will be! She got away with a lot of her drivelling at the bond hearing and I don't think she'll be able to do that in the next "go round".
MOO

Oh, she'll fidget, and squirm, and whine, and try to drone on and on, throw up her smokescreen of irrelevant babblings, and repeat things KC told her as if they were the god's honest truth. BUT...no prosecutor worth his or her salt will allow any of that to go on. I think CA's going to be like a bug pinned to the wall when she's on the stand. Hoping, anyway!

 

[Amity]

I'm curious....did Casey attend this prayer vigil? Or was she too busy at home getting her "travel" plans firmed up?

I'm just now getting back to this post where I left off so my apologies if this has been discussed......

Isn't part of the rules of house arrest, that Casey have someone 'watch her' at all times? I thought I read that in several places, that Casey needs to have someone with her, she's not to be alone.
If that's the case, and the rest of the A's were at the vigil, who was at home watching Casey?

Would be just like Casey to 'off' herself while she's alone and then the whereabouts of Caylee would never be known!!

 

[Janis396]

I'm just now getting back to this post where I left off so my apologies if this has been discussed......

Isn't part of the rules of house arrest, that Casey have someone 'watch her' at all times? I thought I read that in several places, that Casey needs to have someone with her, she's not to be alone.
If that's the case, and the rest of the A's were at the vigil, who was at home watching Casey?

Would be just like Casey to 'off' herself while she's alone and then the whereabouts of Caylee would never be known!!

Well, as far as I know, Casey never attended any of the prayer vigils that were held in the front yard of her home. I assume her ankle monitor lets her go that far, but maybe not and that's why she was always a no-show <rolling eyes>.

 

[diablo]

ugh, the finger drumming is driving me crazy.

this family always has their wheels spinning, never resting...

 

[jeannebreault]

It's hard to hear very well...but Cindy needs water...her cotton mouth is obvious in this one...LOL
She sounds doped up on Valium or something again...Lie Lie Lie

I really hope The Anthony's don't read this stuff...jeez...give them a break! I'd probably be taking something stronger than valium!!

 

[Sundance]

It sounds like she is going to try and pin Caylee's death on LE directly if she can't figure out a way to pin it on Zenaida Amy Tony Ricardo Jesse Fernandez-Gonzalez.

Zenaida Amy Tony Ricardo Jesse FernandezHyphenGonzalez

 

[nancy botwin]

I don't think that she's allowed to take the 5th, is she?

From what I understand, that is only an option for the accused.

Any witness in a judicial proceeding can assert his/her 5th amendment privilege against self-incrimination. If Cindy's testimony would provide evidence she committed a crime, she can plead the 5th.

 

[Pink Panther]

Any witness in a judicial proceeding can assert his/her 5th amendment privilege against self-incrimination. If Cindy's testimony would provide evidence she committed a crime, she can plead the 5th.

Thanks for this clarification. This is what I understood as well. She is not obliged to speak if it incriminates her but she must answer questions with regard to KC.

 

[nancy botwin]

Thanks for this clarification. This is what I understood as well. She is not obliged to speak if it incriminates her but she must answer questions with regard to KC.

But! If the many people who believe Cindy is complicit/covering/concealing evidence for Casey are right-- questions about Casey and Cindy's 5th amendment rights will overlap. A juror shouldn't view a 5th amendment assertion as an admission of guilt, but if Cindy pleads the 5th in court, I'm going to allow myself to start judging her. Hardcore.

 

[wedavis]

Zenaida Amy Tony Ricardo Jesse FernandezHyphenGonzalez

LOL! But of course!!

 

[ArtichokeHeart]

in the interview CA said KC asked if the note KC left on the car was still on it. the note said that she was going to come back and get it. So if there was a note (which i doubt) where did it go? Was there a date? what exactly did it say? did they have it towed due to a smell coming from it?

She just loves embellishing her lies and feeding them to her mother. its like a little private tete a tete between themwith all these special details like sugar cream...the special work bag, the lairnaird , now a note 'left 'specially for you' on the windshield...(she had no intention of ever coming back...she Tony George would take care of it.

It's all this special little dream Casey is creating with her mother...like she is ntucking her mom onto bed...and the 'sugar plum fairies'...they were there too...now go to sleep mom and rest your weary head,,,zanny will take care of everything! HA

 

[one_hooah_wife]

But! If the many people who believe Cindy is complicit/covering/concealing evidence for Casey are right-- questions about Casey and Cindy's 5th amendment rights will overlap. A juror shouldn't view a 5th amendment assertion as an admission of guilt, but if Cindy pleads the 5th in court, I'm going to allow myself to start judging her. Hardcore.

Nancy, I teeter on whether I feel sorry for the GP's ... I have a sick feeling that they are in someway complicit in the "cover up" portion of this crime ... so that makes me not really care what they are going through ... but then I also recognize in Cindy this overwhelming urge to ignore facts and continue to hold onto anything that gives her hope ... unfortunately, the only thing left to hold onto is KC. This makes me think that she is in a protracted period of grieving ... and my heart does tender a little with that thought. That said, I think that Cindy would be more likely to lie or be misleading (under the guise of holding onto hope) on the stand before she evokes the 5th. JMO

 

[ArtichokeHeart]

By the way did Cindy not realize that she was suppose to be telling the truth, why was she so worried at the end that she had to swear to tell the truth, what is wrong with this Family. What are they afraid of?

They are obviously afraid to tell the truth but frankly I don;t think they are anymore afraid then they have always been. Even though both cindy and george have close ties to LE they also harbor deep resentments which they have an ongoing power struggle with. It's cindy's credo that lying is important and necessary and george married her and so is compliant.

Cindy and Casey are both totally lacking in deductive reasoning. They cant understand why LE isn't as stupid as they are and let their lying thieving b---- of a daughter go on endless private worldwide investigation of her own predelection all expenses paid. Of course as Casey said "she was arrested on a whim".

And why did Cindy refuse to turn over financial records to LE?

 

[ArtichokeHeart]

Exactly-- I actually chortled when I read the "employee of the year" post to which you're referring. Would a photo kiosk in an amusement park even have an "employee of the year"?? And just like you said, she didn't work there for more than like 6 months, I don't think?
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I know a lot of people probably don't agree with me, but I truly feel sympathy for Cindy Anthony whenever I read/listen to her statements. To me, she sounds like a woman who has been spun around in a thousand circles and has lost/is losing her ability to reason. Of course there does seem to be a lot of dysfunction in the Anthony family-- but we don't have a flowchart to illuminate where the dysfunction starts and stops... it's possible that CA is the quintessential narcissistic mother who's reaping what she's sewn (in many people's eyes), but it's equally possible that her current behavior is a symptom of living with an acutely personality disordered daughter who has manipulated her and stolen everything she valued most. Maybe it's a little of both-- I just hope Cindy realizes that she's not responsible for her daughter's decision to harm Caylee.

I hope everyone has taken a moment to put themselves in Cindy's shoes-- imagine two of the most important people in your life-- people for whom you feel responsible. Imagine one is missing and the other is a suspect who claims to have info about how to find your missing loved one, as long as you play by their rules because only they hold the key... I truly think I'd be acting totally crazy if I were in Cindy's shoes. I think I would actually act a lot stranger than we've seen Cindy act.

Its kind of an emotional blackmail this time with Casey holding the reins. As you say it is by her rules that Cindy must follow in order to find her granddaughter safe and alive otherwise she is dead.

And as Cindy said "she (I'll) will just die if anything has happened to Caylee."

I think this is the core of the whole problem right here. Who is responsible for whose emotions? (and subsequent actions?)