2008.09.18 Tracy M Interview Audio #1

[Spangle]

And another thing.....why has TP taken it upon himself to mount a one-man campaign to smear his uncle LP? that is exactly what he is doing, trying to discredit LP. I dunno, is he perhaps jealous that LP, TMc and RD was deemed important enough to be interviewed by LE/FBI and he wasn't?????

Is he lying about his Uncle?

 

[faefrost]

The Howard Stern remark really blew my mind (not to mention turned my stomach)...

The Howard Stern remark was a bit more disturbing then simply being stomach turning. Remember this was early in the post arrest time frame. Before alot of people started asking questions about inappropriate contact between KC and JB, or the whole day sessions at his office, or the admonission of teh jail guards. If Tracey is to be believed then KC had "JB tapping that" on her mind early on and pretty much voiced such. It is a huge red flag that basically confirms something we have long suspected.

As far as some of the rest of it. I am really not seeing alot of value to the prosecution in any of LP's crews testimony. Tracey has alot of info that may be used to bring testimony about KC's state of mind while she was out on bail. And Rob has the chilling "They haven't even found the clothes she was wearing" quote. But some of Traceys other comments may make her credibility easily impeachable by a good defense lawyer. (So maybe AL will catch it). LP however is worthless and the SA would be a fool to let him anywhere near the stand. Simply put he loves the camera too much and just does not know when to shut up. Any mildly competant defense attorney would have a field day with him, just based on his body of often contradictory television tales and coments. And sorry but calling any of them to the stand opens up the whole issue of what exactly were their motives in being involved in the first place. Why did they get involved? Why did they spend any money? What was the back end gain they were really hoping for? As entertaining as LP maybe on TV I dont think any of the answers to these will play well to a jury.

 

[faefrost]

Is he lying about his Uncle?

I'm thinking he is wishing hi suncle would simply shut up and stay the hell off tv. Every appearence turns it more into a circus, makes anything they have to say less credible to prosecutors and a jury if needed, and reduces their ability to make future business deals, such as Bounty Hunter type TV shows.

 

[Just Jayla]

Interesting. I have heard that quote before. It's in a movie I think. Okay point well taken about the metaphor. However, I really believe that everybody here (or a huge majority) paint the Anthony's to be rotten horrible people. They cant wait to "cast another stone". Again I don not agree with what they have done or siad about numerous things but do you think you could be rational in those shoes?

I am certainly not eager to paint the A's in any light, bad or good. Their behavior stands on its own.
While it might seem we are being pithy, we are really just trying to get to the core reason for their behavior; It is human nature for us to scrutinize one another's behavior, it is how we have evolved into a better more civilized society.....You might ask why we care about their behavior.....Because a beautiful 2 year old is dead.
I think you will find that the level of frustration comes from the fact that we all know that CA is an educated woman and that her core feelings are valid, yet she continues to sabotage herself.
No one here as ever claimed to be above reproach. No one here would be disrepectful to CA if she came into this forum. In fact, the rules of the forum would dictate that we be respectful. Being skeptical is not necessarily being disrespectful.
You made a Biblical reference about casting stones. Jesus also told the woman who was the recipient of the stoning, "go and sin no more". Later, in the book of Romans, it is clarified that while we must acknowledge sins or bad behavior, we also must leave ultimate judgement to God. What I take from that is that we should certainly point out when something is not right, but never resort to violence or physical harm to make a point. I have seen no threats of violence nor read that anyone here at WS was literally amongst the people throwing rocks at their house.

 

[Spangle]

Do you really believe that? Wow. I've been reading here long before I became a member and that is just not true. I do think the Anthony's have behaved in reprehensible ways and the good folks here at WS are astute and perceptive enough to call it like it is. MOO.

I have to admit, there are a few folks that do seem to act like they personally can do no wrong. And seem to take pride in pointing out supposed faults of others.

I just laugh. Cause I know that someone just like them, are doing the same thing to them.

Some times including me. When I think "Good Lord, someone really thinks that way?.. Oh well."

Example would be the talk about the Dog protesting at the A's. Some were just totally wacked, that someone would bring a dog.. anywhere. While others were totally wacked the other direction.

Yadda, Yadda, yadda..

IT's one thing to do that to regular posters.. But TP was a guest, here to answer questions. Yet some folks just had to tell him how wrong HIS OPINIONS where. And how wrong his OBSERVATIONS were. Like it was some point to argue.

I"m one of those folks that if a person doesn't like someone, I can understand that and respect that. But that doesn't meant that I have to, just because they do. And if they expect me to mimic their hatred,Just because they hate them, then I can't respect that. I actually find such distasteful.

 

[The Eunice Burns]

I am certainly not eager to paint the A's in any light, bad or good. Their behavior stands on its own.
While it might seem we are being pithy, we are really just trying to get to the core reason for their behavior; It is human nature for us to scrutinize one another's behavior, it is how we have evolved into a better more civilized society.
I think you will find that the level of frustration comes from the fact that we all know that CA is an educated woman and that her core feelings are valid, yet she continues to sabotage herself.
No one here as ever claimed to be above reproach. No one here would be disrepectful to CA if she came into this forum. Being skeptical is not necessarily being disrespectful.
You made a Biblical reference about casting stones. Jesus also told the woman who was the recipient of the stoning, "go and sin no more". Later, in the book of Romans, it is clarified that while we must acknowledge sins or bad behavior, we also must leave ultimate judgement to God. What I take from that is that we should certainly point out when something is not right, but never resort to violence or physical harm to make a point. I have seen no threats of violence nor read that anyone here at WS was literally amongst the people throwing rocks at their house.

BBM I agree with you. All we have done here is call a spade a spade. When I read sentiments such as the OP's you quote above....I wonder how anyone can't not get it---the As and what kind of people they are. One teeny, tiny example that leapt to mind last night was GA in his Morgan depo---accusing Mitnik of giving him the finger. Always spoiling for a fight and trying to sling mud at others. These are people who are contentious, paranoid, disingenuous, dishonest, and not concerned w/ the ultimate issue at stake here---justice for their granddaughter. Aside from driving around in an air conditioned SUV towing a trailer w/ a giant Caylee Is Missing flyer on it, did GA ever step out his door once and beat the bushes and try to assist TES and Tim? No. He and his wife showed what kind of cloth they are cut from. I don't see why there is such difficulty in grasping that.

 

[The Eunice Burns]

I have to admit, there are a few folks that do seem to act like they personally can do no wrong. And seem to take pride in pointing out supposed faults of others.

I just laugh. Cause I know that someone just like them, are doing the same thing to them.

Some times including me. When I think "Good Lord, someone really thinks that way?.. Oh well."

Example would be the talk about the Dog protesting at the A's. Some were just totally wacked, that someone would bring a dog.. anywhere. While others were totally wacked the other direction.

Yadda, Yadda, yadda..

IT's one thing to do that to regular posters.. But TP was a guest, here to answer questions. Yet some folks just had to tell him how wrong HIS OPINIONS where. And how wrong his OBSERVATIONS were. Like it was some point to argue.
I"m one of those folks that if a person doesn't like someone, I can understand that and respect that. But that doesn't meant that I have to, just because they do. And if they expect me to mimic their hatred,Just because they hate them, then I can't respect that. I actually find such distasteful.

BBM I can understand your point. But that is/was not what it's about for us. I know TP is entitled to his opinion and has a right to state it here and answer questions. If he likes the As, more power to him. But, there is more to it than just that observation that was made. There are some irregularities, some "off" things being posted here. IMO, and I am apparently not alone. There is some genuine confusion here, and when TP's posts reflect certain things, some of us are going to question further. Although, having said that, I feel like it is time to get off the merry go round. I feel as if it's just a circle that I'm in.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Thanks for all your reports. I'm packing for vacation and can't get into the actual documents/tapes till I return.

If it was Tracey putting down WS, I'm not surprised. She was being simpatico and trying to blend in with the A's. What a nightmarish experience that must have been.

Tracy was already back in California. Here we go making excuses for people again. I take offense at what she said. I'd like to point out the following in the hopes of addressing her ignorance:

Many people here are convalescing or, in some way are incapacitated, they may be older but wishing to keep their minds active, at home with young children therefore limited to going out to seek adult company, have had loss of their own so find it helpful or comforting in some way to get involved with other cases. Some are retired from related fields and activity here gives them a chance to stay involved and offer great insight while some are crime hobbyists and probably can blame Nancy Drew! Some people are limited in funds so can't afford to go out spending money everyday and this provides an outlet other than watching TV. It's an active outlet that allows for participation. Speaking of participating -

Tracy, you are the one who was willing to go sit in a house with a bunch of crazy people and YOU admit to even liking them - so stick that feather in your own hat. :crazy: :crazy:

 

[Oakley]

I have to admit, there are a few folks that do seem to act like they personally can do no wrong. And seem to take pride in pointing out supposed faults of others.

I just laugh. Cause I know that someone just like them, are doing the same thing to them.

Some times including me. When I think "Good Lord, someone really thinks that way?.. Oh well."

Example would be the talk about the Dog protesting at the A's. Some were just totally wacked, that someone would bring a dog.. anywhere. While others were totally wacked the other direction.

Yadda, Yadda, yadda..

IT's one thing to do that to regular posters.. But TP was a guest, here to answer questions. Yet some folks just had to tell him how wrong HIS OPINIONS where. And how wrong his OBSERVATIONS were. Like it was some point to argue.

I"m one of those folks that if a person doesn't like someone, I can understand that and respect that. But that doesn't meant that I have to, just because they do. And if they expect me to mimic their hatred,Just because they hate them, then I can't respect that. I actually find such distasteful.

I don't know about any of that. I am simply taking issue with the remark that essentially WSer's are a lynch mob and (by implication) a bunch of Losers!

 

[kushka]

I was pissed anyone bailed her out of jail! I believe if she had stayed in jail from the first arrest she'd have worn down and spilled her guts. Not for one second did I ever believe that LP rode into town with his posse because he thought Caylee was alive or that he thought Casey was being truthful about the situation. We ALL knew by that point that she was a liar, even the judge said "Ms anthony and the truth are strangers" yet LP, the bounty hunter, couldn't see through it? bah!

I cannot see your reasoning here. KC has been in jail for over a year now, yet she has not broken down. If she has not broken down in all this time, why are you convinced that her not being in jail that one week that LP bailed her out would have broke her? If she could stand jail this whole year, I don't see where one more week would have mattered.

 

[Elphaba]

And another thing.....why has TP taken it upon himself to mount a one-man campaign to smear his uncle LP? that is exactly what he is doing, trying to discredit LP.

I, as well as many others, have been pointing out LP's issue with with the truth, for some time now. TP just re-affirms what MANY people figured out some time back. LP loooooooooong discredited himself, long before TP stood up.

 

[SuziQ]

You know, honestly, if I had a friend, and especially an employee, who "felt a connection" in just eight short days to such a diabolical, evil, conniving, and manipulative person such as Casey Marie Anthony, I would really be questioning the mindset of that friend and/or employee.

In fact, it would scare the bejesus out of me.

I knew someone, who has since passed away, that was the top shrink for the prison system here in Utah. She evaluated and counseled some of the most high profile criminals in Utah. Her daughter expressed interest in following in her footsteps so she got her daughter a job working in the prison system. Unfortunately her daughter immediately bonded with every inmate she met. Her attitude was "well they are so nice". She couldn't grasp that these people had commited horrible acts against other human beings and were not nice. She didn't last long in her job before she was fired. Her mom told her she was too gullible for that line of work and told her to please never go back.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

It is abundantly clear that KC's reality is not reality. It is her made up world. No consequences for anything. Just create whatever story you want...people should just go right ahead and believe the story no matter how much evidence contradicts it. IMO it is both learned behavior and just who KC is. No wonder she didn't have very many good friends. It is also clear why she guy hopped all over Orlando. A few weeks with her...and most guys are scratching their heads thinking, "She ain't right." But hey, I am no defense attorney. This case in JB's and KC's deluted minds is going to wind up in a mistrial. LMAOROTF. But then that was before the baby's remains were found. Before. So who knows. LP was right when he said she thinks about ten minutes ahead and that is it. If she is convicted and does get the DP...what will she be thinking during her "dead man walking" route...????

Her hair or her shirt? Pick one.

Can you imagine? Seems to me that's not even going to phase her. There is no justice!

 

[wonders]

I have said before I do not think any of these people need to testify in order to convict KC. If a person really cared about Caylee they'd be keeping their mouths shut unless talking in whatever LE investigation and then on the stand. They just make themselves look like fools. I said ( I think it was the 2nd time TP was here ) that something didn't sit right with me about him but folks didn't agree with me except 1 person. I worry that with all this nonsense that KC may walk from the courtroom or because of an appeal.
Caylee is the concern for me.

 

[celticthyme]

After listening to the Padilla camp Interviews, I'm left with even more confusion. Within a very short time after they arrived, evidence came forward, leaving little doubt that the baby was dead, there was no zanaida, and the Anthony's were not about to even try to get any kind of truth from Casey. so why stick around at all, unless it is to get some tidbits of information that will come in handy in some future time to make, movei, TV or book $$. It's in the end all about $$, and Caylee laid rotting at the end of the street, while they're all pussyfooting around and playing games with Casey. It boggles the mind, that this is how our system works. Hours and hours of time by hundreds of well meaning volunteers and law enforcement officials were frantically being spent following up on mis-leads and lies,while Caylee is being eaten by critters at the end of the street!!! Huge amounts of time and $$ are going to be spent by the State of Florida in order to find this Sociopathic, selfish, sick excuse for a human being GUILYT ??? Words can just not express the depth of depravity that family has stooped to, to defend that lunatic, at the expense of the dear, dead child. To what end??

 

[The Eunice Burns]

I have said before I do not think any of these people need to testify in order to convict KC. If a person really cared about Caylee they'd be keeping their mouths shut unless talking in whatever LE investigation and then on the stand. They just make themselves look like fools. I said ( I think it was the 2nd time TP was here ) that something didn't sit right with me about him but folks didn't agree with me except 1 person. I worry that with all this nonsense that KC may walk from the courtroom or because of an appeal.
Caylee is the concern for me.

I totally agree with you. And FWIW, something doesn't sit right w/ me either. I don't intend to cause offense, but I wonder it it is b/c......

1) I am cynical to my core. (And that may be a failing on my part.)
2) I'm not impressed by the presence here of certain key people.

JMO

 

[debbie0604]

I cannot see your reasoning here. KC has been in jail for over a year now, yet she has not broken down. If she has not broken down in all this time, why are you convinced that her not being in jail that one week that LP bailed her out would have broke her? If she could stand jail this whole year, I don't see where one more week would have mattered.

IIRC, KC was in jail that first week calling her mama and spewing profanities over the phone, wanting Tony's number, etc. etc... She sounded desperate to be out of jail. This was before Jose what's his face was in the picture. She didn't have an attorney at that time. I've wondered too if LP had not entered the picture and posted her bail, if she would have spilled her guts as well. But I may be wrong... because it wasn't long after she was incarcerated that she had her attorney who began running the 3 ring circus.

 

[Kentjbkent]

I have said before I do not think any of these people need to testify in order to convict KC. If a person really cared about Caylee they'd be keeping their mouths shut unless talking in whatever LE investigation and then on the stand. They just make themselves look like fools. I said ( I think it was the 2nd time TP was here ) that something didn't sit right with me about him but folks didn't agree with me except 1 person. I worry that with all this nonsense that KC may walk from the courtroom or because of an appeal.Caylee is the concern for me.

I still don't think these audios are going to play much of a role in the actual trial since they don't prove guilt or innocence, manner of death, or motive. I think it will be addressed briefly at some point in regards to state of mind, but perhaps in the penalty phase of the trial. Too much physical evidence coming into play that will be time consuming for a jury and WILL answer those three questions.

Listen, I don't think Tony is a bad person and I have no qualms with him posting at WS. Whatever his motives (if any), I wish him luck but I don't think there is going to be a big book opportunity for anyone in this case. Due to the FL statutes, we are getting to almost "participate" in this pre-trial investigation. There will be little we won't know already when it comes to trial. In fact, there are some details I plan to miss on purpose....I personally do not want to hear any details concerning the manner of Caylee's death. I have a hard enough time trying to block the imagine of her beautiful face minus damn duct tape! :furious: I still think they took a gamble for big $$$ involving themselves, but I don't think it is going to work out the way they want it. We will see....but as avid a true crime reader that I am, I don't have any interest in buying a book about this case. I would rather spend my money reading about cases that I don't know much about in states that did not have a Sunshine Law where I could read all court documents, etc for FREE!

 

[cecil]

I can't help but notice contradictions from Tony P. : He states that he doesn't want to be in the limelight and has refused to do interviews except for one to set the record straight. He claims that his interest in this entire "circus" was to post the bond that LP asked him to post and to protect his "investment" while Casey was out of jail. He stated that his main concern was protecting Tracy. He is very critical of LP for using Caylee to get his media attention, yet Tony's website has it's own Casey Anthony section with a video of his appearance on the Today Show. All of this seems to contradict what he is posting here on WS. These are just my own observations, but these things do make me question the motives of LP and his entire "team", including Tony P.
http://www.padillabail.com/

P.S. Would love the chance to discuss these issues directly with Tony. No accusations intended; just using my observations to open the discussion with Tony and other WS members.

 

[MissJames]

After listening to the Padilla camp Interviews, I'm left with even more confusion. Within a very short time after they arrived, evidence came forward, leaving little doubt that the baby was dead, there was no zanaida, and the Anthony's were not about to even try to get any kind of truth from Casey. so why stick around at all, unless it is to get some tidbits of information that will come in handy in some future time to make, movei, TV or book $$. It's in the end all about $$, and Caylee laid rotting at the end of the street, while they're all pussyfooting around and playing games with Casey. It boggles the mind, that this is how our system works. Hours and hours of time by hundreds of well meaning volunteers and law enforcement officials were frantically being spent following up on mis-leads and lies,while Caylee is being eaten by critters at the end of the street!!! Huge amounts of time and $$ are going to be spent by the State of Florida in order to find this Sociopathic, selfish, sick excuse for a human being GUILYT ??? Words can just not express the depth of depravity that family has stooped to, to defend that lunatic, at the expense of the dear, dead child. To what end??

CelticThyme,I just love your posts.
It's obvious to me they ALL knew Caylee was dead.Otherwise there would have been a sense of urgency to find Caylee.Somehow they managed to set aside any horrific thoughts of what was happening to Caylee's body as they sat around discussing clothes and cooking dinner.
They knew.