2008.09.18 Tracy M Interview Audio #1

[sarah7855]

Because there's no cure for sociopathy.

There are some drugs that can help Axis IIs-- who WANT to be helped.

Most sociopaths do NOT want to be helped. They see themselves are superior, because they don't feel shame or guilt.

BTW-- She has a good grip on reality. She KNOWS how a good mother behaves. She doesn't care-- unless sh is trying to impress someone who admires good mothers.

There's no cure for sociopathy, but she sure as hell should've never had a child. She felt the need to compete with her baby. I feel so sorry for Caylee for having such a sorry excuse for a "mother".

Disgusting.

 

[ZsaZsa]

The nervous giggling is really irritating.
I was surprised to hear her say that "at that stage"- i.e. when she first stayed with KC, she (Tracy) still thought Caylee was out there somewhere, given away or whatever........ whaaaaaat? At that stage most of the country had figured out that this girl was a pathological liar. Not too often someone gets introduced as someone to whom "the truth is a stranger".
When Casey was first arrested and she was led out wearing the blue hoodie, she saw the cameras and smirked, almost smiled in response, then checked herself. At that point, if you are observant, it's not too difficult to read her thoughts. She is not scared, worried or upset. She is amused!
Anyone who watched the High Five scene with Lee would have to know "at that stage" that this was all a game of outsmarting the Police..

 

[Brini]

I think this girl (KC) must be the most shallow person I've ever come across!!

Her baby's missing and possibly dead, she's arrested for the murder, and she's like, "What fun! We can be girlie girl BFFs and dress alike." I think I'm going to be sick.

All the depths of a teaspoon.

Blow into her right ear, it will come whistling out her left.

 

[Brini]

Well we know Casey wasn't looking for Caylee

But the tips from the public were pouring in so people did have their eyes open and TES came to search for Caylee (dead or alive) but that wasn't good enough for Cindy it seems.
And GA driving around the Caylee mobile does that count?

So, where was ut, again, that CA was searching?

 

[Brini]

Having listened to the entire interview. I am firm in my resolve that Casey Anthony is a LUNATIC! She cares for nothing or for nobody but herself. She is the most shallow, sophmoric, narcassstic perp of ALL time, and death would be too GOOD for her! This is all a big game to her and she is LOVING every minute of it, or at least she was when she was home on house arrest. She talked of nothing but herself and completely meaningless and worthless things and not once did she offer up anything helpful that would help to locate Caylee.

Not a lunatic. A typical sociopath.

The prisons are full of 'em.

 

[tasylshari]

MADJ: I, too, found it interesting that Tracy said they knew something big was up when the bond was going to be $500,00 and called that "unjust". That's why LP wanted in.
LE asked TM about any contract or agreements made with JB regarding KC's care.
LE asked TM, "What did JB have to say with respect to this?"
TM replied, "Everybody was okay, you can bail her out. You can talk to her, have access ... as soon as she got out he (JB) changed the story to, ""Okay, no one's around her (KC) except for TM."" I was the only one that was allowed to be with her without an attorney. So he (JB) kind of changed the rules up on that."
Now I have to re-read the thread about why JB was trying to have TM and Rob's testimony thrown out....attorney/client priviledge LOL

 

[Brini]

Ya, lots of people had access to her car like Zanny, her sister Samantha, her mother Gloria, Jeff H and his son Zach, Juliette from work, and sometimes even her boss T Franck.

Don't forget Sam's two toddlers, and ZG's little white dog! They had keys, too!

 

[dizzychick]

The Past lyrics IS THIS THE SONG CASEY HAD STUCK IN HER HEAD IN
(feat. Chris Daughtry) JAIL??

Beneath the water
that's falling from my eyes
lays a soul I've left behind
the edge of sorrow was reached but now I'm fine
I've filled the hole I had inside

I'll pray it doesn't scream my name
so I light a flame and let it breathe
the air that kills the shame

I'm up
I'm down
like a rollercoaster racing through my life
I've erased the past again

a risky morning
I feel like I'm alive
I can't believe I've made it through this time
the edge of sorrow I lived in for some time
(lived in for some time)
has left the hole I have inside

The burden is I try my hate
was the last thing I ever felt
or thought I could escape

I'm up
I'm down
like a rollercoaster racing through my life
I've erased the past again
[x2]

You let me in then broke me down
the difference is this time around
I will not let you see me try

I'm up
I'm down
like a rollercoaster racing through my life
I've erased the past again
[x2]

Erased the past again now
Erased the past again

Beneath the water
that has fallen from my eyes

 

[sarah7855]

And when the air tests from the Sunfire's trunk were made public Tracy says she tried to keep Casey occupied but that Casey saw it on television. Casey's first reaction was to quip that many people had access to the car (i.e., *I* did not do it!). It is STUNNING that she did not fall to the ground, or have a panic attack, crying that perhaps her BABY is dead. I don't care what good brother Lee later allegedly told Casey to think about the air tests. [sarcasm] Why wasn't she extremely concerned about a DEAD BODY having been in that trunk?

And don't get me started on LEE. Puh-lease. Who does he think he is with telling Cindy not to open the door to the Police who were there to arrest Casey? Are you kidding me?

BBM...And it goes to show that the meds she needed for her "panic attack" on December 11th when Caylee's remains were first found were needed for HER and her sorry, lying, disgusting, shallow self, not because the remains of what was most likely her child were just found!!! :furious:

 

[Brini]

Hey, she was mad because TonE dumped her on a Whim so she had to move on to a new target, I mean boyfriend. What's a girl to do?

Besides: any male + proximity = hook=up

 

[Coldpizza]

Just getting home!

Yippee aye yea cayo!!!

Thanks Muzikman!!!!

Off to reading thank goodness for a three day weekend!

Perfect timing !!!!

A little step further Sweet Little Caylee.

 

[tripleC]

I haven't made it to the end of the thread yet so I's not sure if this has been posted yet, but I did remember this because my daughter's sociopath father is also a BIG fan of Sevendust. They released the following statement before Caylee was found on November 21st, 2008:

After hearing the news that our song "the past" was a topic of discussion on the Nancy Grace show yesterday, we would like to elaborate. the song was written as a song of hope. a song with positive message. to look back on your life and reflect and to feel good about getting through the rough times that everyone goes through, the roller coaster of life so to speak.

We regret that we've been linked to the horrible subject involving the disappearance of little Caylee Anthony. most of us have children and have been saddened by the story from the beginning. we pray for the safe return of this beautiful young child and wish her family strength.

-Sevendust

This will make her day...she will feel like a celeb now

 

[sarah7855]

The Past lyrics IS THIS THE SONG CASEY HAD STUCK IN HER HEAD IN
(feat. Chris Daughtry) JAIL??

Beneath the water
that's falling from my eyes
lays a soul I've left behind
the edge of sorrow was reached but now I'm fine
I've filled the hole I had inside

I'll pray it doesn't scream my name
so I light a flame and let it breathe
the air that kills the shame

I'm up
I'm down
like a rollercoaster racing through my life
I've erased the past again

a risky morning
I feel like I'm alive
I can't believe I've made it through this time
the edge of sorrow I lived in for some time
(lived in for some time)
has left the hole I have inside

The burden is I try my hate
was the last thing I ever felt
or thought I could escape

I'm up
I'm down
like a rollercoaster racing through my life
I've erased the past again
[x2]

You let me in then broke me down
the difference is this time around
I will not let you see me try

I'm up
I'm down
like a rollercoaster racing through my life
I've erased the past again
[x2]

Erased the past again now
Erased the past again

Beneath the water
that has fallen from my eyes

BBM: this is the line that Tracey remembered the most.

 

[Brini]

Doesn't mean that she was always that bad.

IT could show how far she had to go, to block what she did from her mind.

Sociopathy starts in childhood, so she likely WAS always that bad.

She's not actually blocking things from her mind. Some things are just not important enough to think about.

She immediately forgets: 1) dead people (read: Caylee), and 2) People who are not useful to her (read: Caylee)

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

After hearing all of this it is hard to believe that George and Cindy were in the house with the same Casey that Tracy was. With so much lying and manipulating going on in that place I'm surprised that Tracy was brave enough to stay there ~ No wonder LP and Rob felt they had to stay close by to protect her!!! Reality is denied entry into their house and if it should ever somehow seep in it is hotly thrown out the door with a feigned righteous indignation. It breaks my heart that Caylee must have experienced a home life like this. . .

 

[Brini]

[/B]

Caylee as in the name? or Caylee as in her bio dad is Italian but if Casey were Romanian/Irish that would make Caylee 1/2 Italian, 1/4 Irish and 1/4 Romanian...

BBM
Well I agree there

No, Caylee is a common Irish name. It's very common in the US, right now, as well.

 

[ZsaZsa]

As obvious as it is in listening to Tracey that KC was no child a parent could entrust the care of their grandchildren to, I'm really mad for Caylee that CA & GA didn't try to get custody of Caylee sooner and hire a proper sitter for her. It's like they just kept turning a blind eye to what KC really is because either they didn't really want Caylee, or they were willing to risk her safety in an attempt to get KC to become a normal human being.

Never cared enough for their grandchild to do the 'tough love' thing with Casey. Just enabled..

 

[Brini]

I'm a long time lurker....

After listening to the first portion of Tracy's interview, I have to admit she comes darn close to making Casey Anthony almost sound like a sympathetic character. No doubt in my mind, some of the descriptions she uses clearly could sway a juror into believing Casey Anthony is insane. Why Baez never went that angle is the dumbest move in legal history.

Because she doesn't fit the criteria for legal insanity. She also has no medical or school reports of any mental illness.

She's not delusional as to person, place, time, or circumstance.

In short.. it wouldn't fly.

Andrea Yates almost didn't even make criteria, and she's loony as a toon.

Sociopaths (like KC don't think like normal people do.

KC is not clinically "crazy." She is stone cold. There is nothing in there where normal feelings should be.

 

[Coley]

BBM: this is the line that Tracey remembered the most.

Big Bertha is screaming her name in the big house!!!

 

[Coley]

So Baez understood enough about Casey at this time that she wasn't interested or distraught over Caylee being gone.
It must have been REAL difficult for Casey NOT TO SMILE for the camera and say look at me, I'm pretty, Remember the first time we saw her on TV? right after her arrest when she came thru a door with an LE officer...she had that little smile for the camera.

That's because she had her new $12 blue hoodie on courtesy of Amy H.