2009.01.21 Document Release

[Marina2]

This may have been already posted (sorry) but reports like this from the media (WFTV) is causing most of this confusion & not just about the knife..Sheaffer is the station's legal analyst & was on their front page re: the doc dump.

Sheaffer said the public might never find out why a stainless steel knife was found with the body.

If a knife was found with the body it wasn't included in this latest release.
Unless he knows what was found and not listed he just read it wrong like so many others did.
The stainless steel knife listed in the documents has the same Item # as the one found in the car, H-51975. This wouldn't be the case for one found with the body.

 

[DISPATCHER3062]

What a beauriful video of CAYLEE on you tube. To bad this can't be played 24/7 on the wall of Casey's jail cell

 

[Brini]

There is a reference to a DNA Parentage Test Report... I said I suspected it was JG's paternity test but that would involve Caylee and Casey... Who do you think it references if not anyone involved in this case?

On these documents Page 6 what is sent TO the FBI, page 23 what is received BY the FBI, and page 53, what is inventoried by the FBI.

It's prolly JGs and HE sent it to LE. LE did not ORDER a parentage test on him.

It's hard to tell-- there are lots of references re: extraction of DNA from A family hair samples.

Thanks!

 

[impatientredhead]

The buccal swabs from KC and the DNA Parentage Report are separate items.

See my post here.

The item numbers change when they are inventoried by the FBI and the last page includes a cross-reference of what they were named by OCSO and what the FBI labeled them. There are a few other items that end up with their item numbers changed by the FBI. For example, a comb sent as item K-4 (on page 6) is listed on page 53 as "Q-16 Comb (Item K-4)".

They are cross referenced not changed. The FBI receives evidence from LE all over the country. They will be receiving items catalogued out of multiple systems. The FBI sorts all of their data using their system and cross-references it to the number it came in with. It goes in a complete traceable circle.

For example:

Comb is K-4 for one facility (collector) and Q-16 at the other (testing). They reference each other to say it is the same piece of evidence. The testing facility does not use K-4 to label some other piece of evidence (leaves for example).

K1 is the parentage report.
K1 consists of K6 and K7, the buccal swabs which provided Casey's DNA.
Those are the numbers they came in with, and K1 is cross referenced in another system at NE2. That does not change the definition of what K1 meant and continues to mean.

If there were two parents known than K1 would consist of Casey's DNA (K6 and K7) plus Dads DNA (doesn'texist1 and doesn'texist2). And would still be NE2 in the other facilities system.

 

[Memphis Belle]

Why would KC have Tones' garbage from his apt. in the trunk of her car?

Excellent question!

 

[Brini]

What a beauriful video of CAYLEE on you tube. To bad this can't be played 24/7 on the wall of Casey's jail cell

Yes, 24/7. Of course, any owman who would put a little heart sticky on duct tape over her daughter's mouth would likely not care. :-(

 

[Marina2]

Now I understand this (Thanks to DawnTCB)​

http://www.wftv.com/news/18530418/detail.html

This that Dawn showed us is what was submitted to FBI. Well on page 3284 is articles 9 and 10 that look like from AL vehicle and it says specifically Casey's car there. So this should clear up the info that is wrongly written. ​

Aimee, I showed you this 4 hours ago! I thought you understood then.:waitasec:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3202785&postcount=768

 

[*~Aimee~*]

Aimee, I showed you this 4 hours ago! I thought you understood then.:waitasec:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3202785&postcount=768

nope but I have been up well over 24 hours now. I couldn't figure it out. But when I looked at other page I was like DUH AL is not even listed as anything being sent to FBI. Only Casey's car. I said I was confused LOL :crazy:

ETA: I was wondering where you saw the FL tag # LOL (I feel dumb now)​

 

[MADJGNLAW]

Now I understand this (Thanks to DawnTCB)

http://www.wftv.com/news/18530418/detail.html
This that Dawn showed us is what was submitted to FBI. Well on page 3284 is articles 9 and 10 that look like from AL vehicle and it says specifically Casey's car there. So this should clear up the info that is wrongly written. ​

They took the vehicle back to the forensic garage to do the trunk which would be the cargo area since it's a jeep it's called a cargo area. (I point this out because some are confused on why they call it the trunk then the cargo area.)

In reading the report it states the vehicle tested positive, but only said that no blood was found. "IMO" I am thinking that his jeep also tested positive for decomposition, which then would lead me to believe that maybe Casey used his jeep to transport Caylee at one point. Why else would they find hair, fabric, test positive..but did not share what it tested positive for in this report only that no blood was found, and the leaf and other.

 

[Marina2]

nope but I have been up well over 24 hours now. I couldn't figure it out. But when I looked at other page I was like DUH AL is not even listed as anything being sent to FBI. Only Casey's car. I said I was confused LOL :crazy:​

ETA: I was wondering where you saw the FL tag # LOL (I feel dumb now)​

I thought I was the only one that's been up since 8 am yesterday! I don't feel so bad for still being here now. :woohoo:

Your not dumb, it was 5 am and your sick grandbabies, being in pain, and these very confusing documents didn't help any. I just had to say something because I searched and searched til I found a way to show you and then I read that you didn't get it til now. :cry:

 

[*~Aimee~*]

I thought I was the only one that's been up since 8 am yesterday! I don't feel so bad for still being here now. :woohoo:

Your not dumb, it was 5 am and your sick grandbabies, being in pain, and these very confusing documents didn't help any. I just had to say something because I searched and searched til I found a way to show you and then I read that you didn't get it til now.

It is ok. But now I reread what you writen and understand. LOL

If I understood there was 2 different documents I might of got it sooner. I thought what I was looking at was what was submitted to FBI. But I guess it was kind of the case timeline in "LE" words. ​

 

[Brini]

It is ok. But now I reread what you writen and understand. LOL

If I understood there was 2 different documents I might of got it sooner. I thought what I was looking at was what was submitted to FBI. But I guess it was kind of the case timeline in "LE" words. ​

Yeah. A lot of the docs are poorly worded. And, the sheer mass can be confusing, :blowkiss:

 

[tiredofthis]

They took the vehicle back to the forensic garage to do the trunk which would be the cargo area since it's a jeep it's called a cargo area. (I point this out because some are confused on why they call it the trunk then the cargo area.)

In reading the report it states the vehicle tested positive, but only said that no blood was found. "IMO" I am thinking that his jeep also tested positive for decomposition, which then would lead me to believe that maybe Casey used his jeep to transport Caylee at one point. Why else would they find hair, fabric, test positive..but did not share what it tested positive for in this report only that no blood was found, and the leaf and other.

I'm so confused.

Wouldn't AL's jeep have the distinct smell of death if KC had used it to transport Caylee's body?

 

[impatientredhead]

They took the vehicle back to the forensic garage to do the trunk which would be the cargo area since it's a jeep it's called a cargo area. (I point this out because some are confused on why they call it the trunk then the cargo area.)

In reading the report it states the vehicle tested positive, but only said that no blood was found. "IMO" I am thinking that his jeep also tested positive for decomposition, which then would lead me to believe that maybe Casey used his jeep to transport Caylee at one point. Why else would they find hair, fabric, test positive..but did not share what it tested positive for in this report only that no blood was found, and the leaf and other.

I just went back and read the report on Tony's jeep. It doesn't say it tested positive in any context, unless I am completly missing something? The only evidence they took was the air freshner and the leaves.

 

[amysmom]

I just went back and read the report on Tony's jeep. It doesn't say it tested positive in any context, unless I am completly missing something? The only evidence they took was the air freshner and the leaves.

So there was an air freshner in AL's jeep?..(between the seat?)..That's how I read it too but many are saying "WRONG!" :waitasec:

 

[impatientredhead]

So there was an air freshner in AL's jeep?..(between the seat?)..That's how I read it too but many are saying "WRONG!" :waitasec:

http://www.wftv.com/news/18530366/detail.html

Page 10, taken from middle of back seat.

 

[amysmom]

If a knife was found with the body it wasn't included in this latest release.
Unless he knows what was found and not listed he just read it wrong like so many others did.
The stainless steel knife listed in the documents has the same Item # as the one found in the car, H-51975. This wouldn't be the case for one found with the body.

Most likely he read it wrong?..I'm guilty of that way too many times to count sad to say!

 

[Marina2]

I just went back and read the report on Tony's jeep. It doesn't say it tested positive in any context, unless I am completly missing something? The only evidence they took was the air freshner and the leaves.

So there was an air freshner in AL's jeep?..(between the seat?)..That's how I read it too but many are saying "WRONG!" :waitasec:

No evidence whatsoever taken from AL's jeep.

The air freshener from the backseat and the leaves were taken from KC's car. Check pages 3284 and 3285 (the document that lists items sent to FBI). Art.#'s 9, 10, 11, and 12 come from KC's car, her tag is listed here.
Any evidence listed with an Item#52025 is from KC's car.

 

[*~Aimee~*]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18530366/detail.html

Page 10, taken from middle of back seat.

I did that too ALL night but nope it is Casey's car.

Look at FBI submitted documents. (I will find it) It specifically says Casey's car license plate that these items were taken from (articles 9 and 10)​

ETA: look at this link.
http://www.wftv.com/news/18530418/detail.html
page 3284

 

[*~Aimee~*]

No evidence whatsoever taken from AL's jeep.

The air freshener from the backseat and the leaves were taken from KC's car. Check pages 3284 and 3285 (the document that lists items sent to FBI). Art.#'s 9, 10, 11, and 12 come from KC's car, her tag is listed here.
Any evidence listed with an Item#52025 is from KC's car.

sounds like me huh? I did that ALL night LOL​