2009.02.27 - Lee's Deposition

[SuziQ]

Lee had to say what he said to cover his own arse....he could not very well go in and say "Yeah, I knew and did everything I could to help her cover it up." The truth would put him in the jail with her.

IMO, this is what he did instead of "Investigating".

 

[Oakley]

I haven't had time to read all 36 pages of this thread nor the transcripts, but I watched some snippets of it and I have to make a comment here.
First of all, it seems to me Mr. Morgan is wearing two hats. He is acting as attorney for his client, and also trying to act as prosecutor. A lot of the questions have absolutely NOTHING to do with clearing his client's name, and EVERYTHING to do with the criminal case against Casey. Asking Lee who he referred to as CMA in the memorial... what did that have to do with ZG? I said the same thing when I read the list of questions he wanted Casey to answer, because there were some questions that should be left to the prosecutors in the criminal case.
This deposition should have taken no more than 20 minutes if he had stuck to questions regarding his client's civil case, and it stretched into 3 hours? And I heard him state last night that it was not over, they intended to continue it on Monday. WTH? Mr. Morgan is stepping WAY over the line for his client, and someone should put a stop to it.
I don't blame George or Cindy for trying to postpone their depositions. This man should NOT be allowed to do this to this family, in spite of how gleeful everyone seems to be about it!! He is out to publicly humiliate them, and he has no legal right to delve into the criminal matter outside of how it affected his client, and a lot of the things he talked about last night was way beyond that.... he was analyzing Lee's body language and suggesting things that were completely removed from ZG's case. When was he hired by the state attorney's office to prosecute? How does he know when to switch hats? This is completely ridiculous, and he should be ashamed... if not disbarred!
I know that it is the general consensus here to hate all the Anthonys, but I am surprised that some of the legal eagles her can't see the ramifications of this whole thing, maybe they did and I missed it.

Mr Morgan stated that if he could prove who committed the crime, it would prove his client was not involved (I am paraphrasing from memory.) Seems fair to me. And if he assists the prosecution in the process, it's icing on the cake. JMO.

 

[cuppy199]

Okay, someone help me here, please. If Zanny the Nanny took over KC's accounts and changed the passwords... How did KC know the password was timer55??? Did Zanny tell her after she changed it?

Like most everything to do with this case, it makes no sense. :waitasec:

LOL yea her story is so beyond silly IMO. Even if the Zanny did change the password which is a totally lie.What now the zanny is a computer wiz to Besides it would be easy for LE to prove who exactly changed it and where they were at the time by getting facebook records. IMO I believe that password was changed before Caylee was murdered and if so KC doesnt have a leg to stand on. Either way with some records and searching it wouldnt be hard to prove she lied aout it.JMO

 

[anastacia129]

I really hope that everything LA said is what the defense plans to say at trial. This has got to be the most absurd story I have ever heard, and I would love to see the jury's faces when they hear this insane story! It's laughable, I can see why he is cracking up throughout the whole depo. Honestly, I think she would be better off with the "voices made me do it" defense. It's much more believable.


The more elaborate the lie, the more disgusting the truth must be.

it's just so pathetic. I mean really pathetic.:tsktsk:

ps as computer savvy as lee thinks he is, he should know that they can tell what ip address and computer accessed different sites, and it will come back to kc's pc. also all the info as to which sites were accessed will be on her hard drive. her laptop was at TL's, right?

 

[Kimster]

Maybe Tricia can get us some WS tin foil hats to wear. Goes with jammies and hoodies...

Make it so!

 

[MarleneM]

At the bond hearing, LA testified that he and KC could tell each other things they may not feel comfortable telling anybody else, even their own family members.

But now LA claims at the deposition he wouldn't know if KC has/had a job (and other inconvenient truths) because he lives a whopping mile and a half from his parents house and so isn't privvy the weekly schedules there?

Bah.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I haven't had time to read all 36 pages of this thread nor the transcripts, but I watched some snippets of it and I have to make a comment here.
First of all, it seems to me Mr. Morgan is wearing two hats. He is acting as attorney for his client, and also trying to act as prosecutor. A lot of the questions have absolutely NOTHING to do with clearing his client's name, and EVERYTHING to do with the criminal case against Casey. Asking Lee who he referred to as CMA in the memorial... what did that have to do with ZG? I said the same thing when I read the list of questions he wanted Casey to answer, because there were some questions that should be left to the prosecutors in the criminal case.
This deposition should have taken no more than 20 minutes if he had stuck to questions regarding his client's civil case, and it stretched into 3 hours? And I heard him state last night that it was not over, they intended to continue it on Monday. WTH? Mr. Morgan is stepping WAY over the line for his client, and someone should put a stop to it.
I don't blame George or Cindy for trying to postpone their depositions. This man should NOT be allowed to do this to this family, in spite of how gleeful everyone seems to be about it!! He is out to publicly humiliate them, and he has no legal right to delve into the criminal matter outside of how it affected his client, and a lot of the things he talked about last night was way beyond that.... he was analyzing Lee's body language and suggesting things that were completely removed from ZG's case. When was he hired by the state attorney's office to prosecute? How does he know when to switch hats? This is completely ridiculous, and he should be ashamed... if not disbarred!
I know that it is the general consensus here to hate all the Anthonys, but I am surprised that some of the legal eagles her can't see the ramifications of this whole thing, maybe they did and I missed it.

I don't sense he's out to "humiliate" anyone. Did seem long. Not sure what is or isn't allowed regarding lawyer's roles.

He asked questions I'd like to know the answers to. Never seem to get them.

 

[nyvictoria]

As amusing as it is to see Lee disemble and bumble, what the heck do these depositions have to do with Zaneida F-Gonzalez and her suit against Casey?

Sorry I'm a little behind in my reading/listening/watching so forgive me if this has been said over and over again

WTH is up with Luka allowing this line of questioning???

I'll bet LE is really enjoying this! :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

 

[Kat]

I think they have to go with the SOZFGDI. Hence, the "I have to believe her," bologna. Casey has painted herself into this story. She has not budged, even after Caylee was found. She has forced them all into this unbelievable corner.
It has nothing to do with their delicate psyche, special grief, etc. They want to avoid having to say these things in deposition because they know we know!
They know Casey killed her daughter. They know there is no Zanny. But they know their daughter is so buttstoopid and stubborn and she won't come off the kool-aid. Anyone who will lie to LE and walk them all the way down the hall at Universal until she runs out of carpet is not going to blink an eye at how undeniably ridiculous her lies sound.
Watching CA, GA and LA dance to her tune has been the most sickeningly fascinating aspect of this whole tragedy.

Lancelotlink, I haven't been as involved with this case as many have been. I kept up to date but maintained a certain amount of emotional distance after I found myself crying during the blanchard park episode.

As a matter of fact, I had not paid much attention to LA at all. So FWIW, here is what I think from viewing this depo without having but just the minimal exposure to LA prior to depo.

There's something off about him. I don't think it can be explained away with just as a case of nerves about the depo. His demeanor at times is so inappropriate it screams for attention. Laughing. Somewhat fidgety, eye movements. I can't say exactly what it is, but this guy is off. I mean as in psychologically. Not mentally ill, just something is so different about him he gives me the willies to be honest.

 

[BetsyB]

Listening, ad nauseum to his rantings, I couldn't believe Luka didn't object. Lee could have been succinct in his answers, but like his mother, babbled incessantly:waitasec:



I feel like a "Stranger in a Strange Land" listening to them!

Luka failed miserably in Dep Prep. What happened to teaching deponents the four basic acceptable responses to a question ("I don't know," "I don't recall," "yes" and "no")? Instructing them to never volunteer information?

The family has demonstrated time and again their vulnerability to diarrhea of the mouth. Could Luka not have driven home the need to shut the heck up?

Don't get me wrong--I'm glad that the Anthony family is being given ample rope to hang their murderess. But the caliber of legal representation really makes me cringe.

No wonder there are so many lawyer jokes.

(And now I have that Suzanne Vega, "My name is Luca" song earbugging me...)

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Not to be inflammatory per se, but I was shocked to hear about the reason for the public memorial. Why? So KC could see it on tv or computer or vid player.

Wow.

I am just constantly surprised by these peeps all the time even after all this time.

Oh I don't believe that was the reason for a minute. Lee even volunteered that they could've video-taped a private memorial and had it shown to Casey.

IMO, the memorial was CA's big splash, pure and simple. When else would she have an unlimited budget and world-wide audience to show what a devoted family she made ? Casey and LA have both made it known that they didn't agree with it. GA, weeks after a suicide attempt, surely didn't want to appear. Everyone went along with CA - because that's what they've always done.

Just as both GA and LA are now going along with the Zanny story, because that's how CA wants it. The problem is that CA doesn't always know best. IMO, Bulldozing her family into this defense, is going to bite them all in the long run.

 

[nyvictoria]

I am completely amazed at the number of questions LA did NOT ask his sister. His niece is missing, Casey is telling this elaborate tale(s) and all LA can say is ,"...I never thought to ask her that question..." with that creepy laugh <shudder> :waitasec::waitasec:

 

[chefmom]

Okay, someone help me here, please. If Zanny the Nanny took over KC's accounts and changed the passwords... How did KC know the password was timer55??? Did Zanny tell her after she changed it?

Like most everything to do with this case, it makes no sense. :waitasec:

Of course she did! At the same time she was telling her to go pole dancing, bumping and grinding, shopping at target, and stealing from her friends! Seriously, do they think this is going to fly in court? LE has the documentation from their computers. They can nip this story in the bud real quick I would think. If this is presented as part of the defense, it will simply be another nail in her coffin. Can't you hear the hammer?

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Okay, someone help me here, please. If Zanny the Nanny took over KC's accounts and changed the passwords... How did KC know the password was timer55??? Did Zanny tell her after she changed it?
Like most everything to do with this case, it makes no sense. :waitasec:

Bolded by me

Yes. IIRC, Lee said that Zanny changed the passwords and then told Casey what the new ones were. That was so Zanny could send instructions to Casey during the 55 days.

Don't ask me why Zanny would bother to change the passwords if she was going to then give them to Casey. As you noted above, it's nonsensical.

 

[azwriter]

Maybe Tricia can get us some WS tin foil hats to wear. Goes with jammies and hoodies...

Put me down for two. My sis wants one too.
Are they sized or are they adjustable?

 

[MIbarb]

This testimony is completely different than what he has stated previously. He has stated previously that he went in the room and got it out of Casey where Caylee was and when Cindy did the last 911 call she told them about Zanny and that is when Casey spelled out her name for them. Lee was present during that phone call.

I noticed that also.
And I don't believe for a minute, that he didn't know rather KC had a job or not. He knew. you can't tell me he didn't know about KC because he wasn't living at home. BS! I don't see my brothers and sisters all that much, but I know whats going on in their lifes, and rather they are working going to school or whaever-because my dad tells me. This family was suppose to be so close, but they don't know whats going on in each others lives. I don't buy it. This whole family is nuts-if they had told the truth from the start, they might have found Caylee long ago-instead they all think they know more than the police/FBI, and do their own investgation. I am sick of them all. I think the only truth they told was Caylee was missing. After that, they make it up as they go-anything to make it look like "Not my family", its someone else-its always someone else. And don't get me started on cremation jewelry-the thought of that little girl in 4 or more jewelry pieces, just makes me sick-will they ever let Caylee rest in peace. I hope when everything is said and done, they lock them all up.

 

[GreenEyes727]

Great point. Nothing in this depo rang true.

Newsflash: All of the Anthonys lie and proudly admit to it, except George, who is made to do it, IMO.

Did Lee forget that nagging little question of how Caylee's decomposing body ended up in his sister's trunk? Wasn't she complaining of the smell for awhile and told Lee that it started around their Mom's birthday. She blamed her Dad for taking her car and running over a squirrel or two. So it's not like she didn't know about the smell.

In answer to other posts above:

I don't think that KC suffers from multiple personality disorder, but the thought has crossed my mind. I do know someone who told me years ago that her mother's rantings to her as a small child about her father's infidelity made her so crazy, she had to use a second personality to handle this. She became Katie1 and Katie2. She never had another episode of using another personality to deal with her problems but this is just an example of how the mind works. I don't rule out 100% though that KC doesn't suffer from some sort of mental illness though. No one in their right mind could do the things she's done and act the way she has and does. Brownies, anyone?

Body language is interesting. Dr. Lillian Glass is the one who said that Lee was very deceptive in his deposition and that touching his nose and nodding his head no when he was saying yes were signs.

Did I mention that I am thinking of taking one of my vacation weeks during the trial week? I spent about 5 hours on this case today . . . it's just so intriguing. In the end, I wish I never heard the name Caylee Anthony as that would mean that right about now, she'd be having lunch, watching SpongeBob or 101 Dal-Dalmations and playing with Tinker and Tilly.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I have a strong sense now that Lee's promise to CMA (which I do believe was Caylee) was that he would stand by her Mother. I don't know why, but after watching the depo, that thought kept playing thru my mind....

Why not be clear? Why deduce Caylee to initials?

Give me a break. Nobody does that.

 

[LancelotLink]

Put me down for two. My sis wants one too.
Are they sized or are they adjustable?

HaHa! I just hope they rotate...

 

[LancelotLink]

Lee made sense out of the senseless...on many ocassions apparently.
A for instance: Casey just sat there in Blanchard Park and because a woman whom she had known for YEARS and had trusted with her baby for YEARS grabbed her arm, she just sat there and did nothing and allowed that woman to make off with her BABY without a struggle, without a shout out, without a word...she just sat there and "took her medicine" and got ready to "learn her lesson".

YUCK! PUKE! UGH!

NO!

If someone is threatening your BABY you do not just sit there and do nothing-you fight to to the death-you scream, you chase the car, you take down the license and JOB #1-You call the police and immediately tell them the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth to SAVE YOUR CHILD!

This is ludicrous that he expects anyone to believe that she fell into a surreal state and did nothing. What is surreal is at what point did she make up and settle on this most ridiculous version? I know WHY she settled on it...she had already lied about Sawgrass and SAW how easy that lie was for LE to dispel. SO she chose a place that was NO address, NO place, NOTHING to check...

And WHY the family did not run screaming this to the police as FACT if that is TRULY what they believed?

I think my head is going to explode. You know why? I love my immediate family-my husband and my children, but if any one of them MURDERED a BABY my love would not stand in the way of my SENSE and there is no way I would enable them in their lies and poppycock! Who does this? I think THIS is surreal!:furious:

I agree. and I think Morgan showed beyond a doubt that their continued denial of the truth left his client twisting in the wind.