2009.03.03 GA suicide note

[TrY]

I would hope that GA's letter is NOT released to the public. Why publicly embarrass him? He did not have anything to do with his grand daughter's murder.

If the goal is to embarrass GA, I think it will backfire. I would feel more sympathetic toward him then I already do if the letter were released.

 

[BeanE]

I would hope that GA's letter is NOT released to the public. Why publicly embarrass him? He did not have anything to do with his grand daughter's murder.

If the goal is to embarrass GA, I think it will backfire. I would feel more sympathetic toward him then I already do if the letter were released.

My bold. I don't think the goal of the Sunshine Laws is to embarrass GA.

Under these laws, all information, whether used as evidence in a trial or not, is lumped together. All this information that has been available to LE is released to the defense as discovery (information that has been discovered by LE). The media requests the information released to the defense.

Things don't stop there. There are remedies, in the court system, as we see in play here - motions can be filed (as we can see they are being filed left and right), and if there are valid reasons not to release specific pieces of information because they hold a high risk of some kind of damage to somebody, those pieces of information can be held back and never released.

Nothing in this process is designed or intended to embarrass anyone. The purpose of the process is keep our legal and court system on the straight and narrow by having the public eye - our citizens' eyes - watching the process.

All that being said, I hope if there is no evidentiary information in George's note, that it is not released. If there's no evidence, then there's nothing there that needs public/citizen oversight.

 

[mydailyopinions]

You are so funny!



Perhaps they said they did not have a dog in this fight because they do not NEED those photos at all to prove their case? OR they have every intention of choosing a specific few that will assist them in their case and they know THOSE can be added to discovery anytime they please...Excluding the photos from being released to the public, if the judge were to do this, would not exclude them from being specifically released as evidence at some later point, as they would have narrowed the number and reason for such a release.



We have not one clue what George told the Grand Jury...only Mark N.J. knows that information.



Highly possible on this funny farm.

Just highlighting the quote from my post:
I realize we don't know and that is exactly why I said "I think", it was just my personal opinion.

 

[Seebra]

I feel that if it was turned over to Orange County, which it was, then it sounds like there may be some relevant info in there. Just my opinion. If it contains no relevant info, then the public has no business seeing it.

Completely agree with this - if it contains a confession that he cannot live with the knowledge that his own daughter murdered little Caylee, then it should not only be released, but should be used to send that monster (KC) to jail for life.

Other than that, I can see no reason why the public should be able to see it.

But my instincts tell me that there is very relevant information to the case contained in that letter.

 

[Bobbisangel]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/

GA does not want his suicide not release to the public..

This is my thought on this...When LE found him the note was IIRC in his vehicle..If that is the case and LE found the note not on his person..I do not feel that there is any right to privacy for this letter..Am I right to feel this way I dont know, but I do recall that the local LE who found GA turned that letter over to Orange County as there must have been something that had to do with this case...And if that is true then there is no way that this family should be able to cherry pick what evidence the SA chooses to use in this case...

JMO
Kimmer

The note doesn't have to have anything about Casey or if he knows something he spoke about in the note...it is probably about him and what he is feeling and why he decided to commit suicide. Maybe there are very personal things about George himself that he wrote to his family that doesn't need to be out in the media.

There is no reason in this world that his suicide notes should be made public. Everyone deserves some privacy especially when they have just lost a little granddaughter. I just can't see how it is anyone's business. If your mom, dad, spouse, or child committed suicide would you want their last letter put in the newspaper? I know I sure wouldn't. If you decided to commit suicide would you want a letter that you wrote to your family to be all over the media with people picking it apart and making comments about it? I think there are times we just go to far. Everything isn't our business nor is it the media's business. I really hope that those notes don't make it into the media.
None of us need to see George with his guts hanging out... so to speak.

 

[coco puff]

lost money in scam
has daughter who is public enemy #1
has dead granddaughter found only 15 houses away from his own
has been viewed/portrayed as a weak, snivelling husband
his employment record is less than amazing
has look into LK's face and said he didn't know garbage could smell that bad
has had incest accusations against him
has been institutionalized

hhhhhmmmmmmmm, you know, unless he is really a chick, what else is there left to embarass him? You have bigger worries than this George.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

[/I]

Wow, and I mean WOW!

:silenced:

Why WOW!? We are talking about the same people who sent their PI to check out the area where Caylee was eventually found, right? It doesn't take huge leap of faith to assume they'd do anything whatsoever to achieve their ultimate goal.

I guess once GA's blood and urine results from that night are leaked to the media we'll finally know the answer to that little nugget.

 

[Doodlelover]

I'm pretty sure that an 8 page (allegedly 8 pages) "suicide" note is going to have some info in it that is pertinent to the case. We already know he made mention of Casey's "dark friends". It sounds like he was throwing suspicion on someone else AGAIN.

I think this letter will probably have lots of interesting info. It is 8 pages and the reason he was writing it was directly because of the situation with Casey and the death of Caylee. I'm sure it has info to either support previous info or it may have info in direct conflict to things he and CA have told LE and for that reason it should be viewed as evidence.

I will also admit (even though I'm in the minority) I want to see whats in that note :blushing:

 

[SoSueMe]

GA is the author and owner of that note. If I remember correctly, I believe he professes KC's innocence in the note (from what was reported at the time). He is not charged with anything and unless it has direct bearing on the case against KC, I don't see where it is relevant. JMO

Sue

 

[Bobbisangel]

You just reminded me about how it looked like BC tried to sell the note to Geraldo...anyone else remember GR saying he'd be showing it on his show that weekend? I think GR's budget wasn't big enough cause I can't imagine he would think he would have it unless BC had mentioned he could get it for him. Maybe they'll just sell it first, and that's why they are asking weeks in advance?

Maybe Geraldo thought the doc's would have been out by the time he planned to have the note on his show. Or maybe he though Baez could get ahold of the note and then give it to him. Whatever his plan was he didn't get it...lol. Did he think LE would make him a copy cause he's such a super nice guy. I wouldn't doubt that at all

 

[sumbunny]

I think GA wrote the note and sent it to "several" people in hopes it would come out.
The note probably states his belief in casey's innocence.
How could he think that would remain private???

 

[Seebra]

I really think that GA's note states that KC is guilty.

And that he cannot live with that fact.

I totally think GA believes his daughter did it. I always have felt that he knows deep down.

 

[Bobbisangel]

Count me in as one of the few who also believes George is not well and that his 'attempt' did need to be taken seriously, no matter what the popular stance is.

I've said it to you before, and I will say it to you again here. I am very glad you made it through, BWI.

Count me in too. Every suicide attempt should be taken seriously. It is often a cry for help and help should be available as it was for George. I hope that George is going to therapy like he planned to do.

 

[BetsyB]

While I have no problem with use of the note for evidentiary purposes, I would be inclined to respect his wishes vis-a-vis public release. There's no obligation to satisfy public curiosity, IMO.

That said, my view does not conform with FL law regarding the release of information.

And in all honesty, I am very interested in the contents of the note. Still, I don't see the need for it--if a judge were to rule in favor of GA on this, I would not be upset...just curious.

Much like I am whenever a case unfolds anywhere other than FL!

 

[Lovejac]

I couldn't agree with you more, BetsyB. I can only imagine it contains the most intimate of thoughts. If it doesn't contain anything of value related to casey's murder charge, it shouldn't be released. If it is, they can only thank their lying, murdering daughter for that.

But, that being said, my own curiosity is at an all time high, too! I would like to see what was said, but, I would be okay if it is not released.

 

[RevCrim]

I personally think it should be kept private.

The exception would be if LE and/or the SA believes it is relevant to the murder investigation.

Exactly !

 

[Tichad3]

How are they calling it a suicide note if there was no suicide? IMO there wasn't even an attempt of one.

In all honesty I would LOVE to read it. But that's just me being nosy. I'm not sure if it should be released or not. I'll have to wait until my feelings of disgust towards the A's dies down.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

Maybe Geraldo thought the doc's would have been out by the time he planned to have the note on his show. Or maybe he though Baez could get ahold of the note and then give it to him. Whatever his plan was he didn't get it...lol. Did he think LE would make him a copy cause he's such a super nice guy. I wouldn't doubt that at all

He's pretty tight with BC and seems to have an "exclusive" deal with him, so I think it was BC.

 

[Crabcake23]

I agree that unless it pertains to the case, keep it private, but I have to ask this. Had he succeeded in his suicide attempt, then he would have had no control over the release of the note, so why write it to begin with? Or why write it with things you may not want public? Because you have that risk, with such a high profile case of it being made public.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

lost money in scam
has daughter who is public enemy #1
has dead granddaughter found only 15 houses away from his own
has been viewed/portrayed as a weak, snivelling husband
his employment record is less than amazing
has look into LK's face and said he didn't know garbage could smell that bad
has had incest accusations against him
has been institutionalized

hhhhhmmmmmmmm, you know, unless he is really a chick, what else is there left to embarass him? You have bigger worries than this George.

Exactly.

And frankly, having it come out that you had a dinner party at the Ritz with a media exec and many others, on the very day your granddaughter's remains were found, is something I would have thought he would find far more embarassing than this.