2009.04.10 Nancy Grace

[panthera]

Also the A's house phone called Casey's phone that morning (7ish?). I think Casey wasn't at home and the A's called her. Or as some say, Casey could have used the house phone to locate a lost cell phone.

I don't think Casey misplaced the cell phone she'd been on all night. I tend to believe more that somebody at the house realized she wasn't there and tried to call her. She could've been over at LA's house and it would still bounce off the same cell tower, imo.

 

[Dear Prudence]

All of this explanation about the C/S pronunciation of the Z in Zenaida makes it even more ridiculous to think anyone ever named Zenaida would go by the nickname Zanny the nanny!!!!! Sssssssanny? No, I don't think so!!!

Good point! Does anyone know if Zanny is a common nickname for Zenaida?

 

[jjgram]

I should have added that if the employee wrote it out, Zenaida would not pronounce the "z" a the end. I speak fluent Spanish and people from Spanish-speaking countries think I'm from some other Spanish-speaking country. Dropping the last syllable is a key to a good native accent.

To an English speaking person, the employee would have heard "Senaida Gonsale."

Thank you so much ! :clap::clap::clap:
People who do not speak Spanish do NOT
always know these things...


God Bless !
jjgram

 

[white_envelope]

I don't think Casey misplaced the cell phone she'd been on all night. I tend to believe more that somebody at the house realized she wasn't there and tried to call her. She could've been over at LA's house and it would still bounce off the same cell tower, imo.

Or she killed Caylee after she hung up with Tony at 3am and left the phone at home while she snuck the body out? Cindy dialed the number trying to locate her before she left for work? Would she be savvy enough to sneak back in while GA was asleep and use the computer to make it appear she was there all along AND grab her phone and hang out close by (maybe at Lee's)most of the day?

 

[SuziQ]

I don't think Casey misplaced the cell phone she'd been on all night. I tend to believe more that somebody at the house realized she wasn't there and tried to call her. She could've been over at LA's house and it would still bounce off the same cell tower, imo.

Good point about why she probably didn't misplace the phone. ITA. Pinging in in the area does not mean she was at the house.

 

[frenchvixen]

Euuuweeee, this makes my stomach turn!

Actually, he would make a great traffic cop. He's such a nice guy that he would let everyone go. I kinda feel bad for ole George. CA's nasty attitude has rubbed off on him but he is a nice person by nature (I think we can tell).

However, I don't think we would be safe if he was a homicide detetective (wink wink)

 

[SuziQ]

Or she killed Caylee after she hung up with Tony at 3am and left the phone at home while she snuck the body out? Cindy dialed the number trying to locate her before she left for work? Would she be savvy enough to sneak back in while GA was asleep and use the computer to make it appear she was there all along AND grab her phone and hang out close by (maybe at Lee's)most of the day?

The cell phone would probably be with Casey. And Casey was in the area of that cell tower which is not a confirmation she or her phone were in the home when the house phone called the cell phone. God that sounds confusing.

 

[Jolynna]

The cell phone would probably be with Casey. And Casey was in the area of that cell tower which is not a confirmation she or her phone were in the home when the house phone called the cell phone. God that sounds confusing.

The ping experts on WS said it was checking for messages.

 

[SuziQ]

Actually, he would make a great traffic cop. He's such a nice guy that he would let everyone go. I kinda feel bad for ole George. CA's nasty attitude has rubbed off on him but he is a nice person by nature (I think we can tell).

However, I don't think we would be safe if he was a homicide detetective (wink wink)

Aw heck, the nice guy George you buy is the con he uses to fool people. He is not a nice person at all. He's done too many crummy things and behaved badly that can't be blamed on Cindy.

 

[SuziQ]

The ping experts on WS said it was checking for messages.

Interesting. The house phone was calling Casey's cell phone for messages? Now why wouldn't you check for cell phone messages from your cell phone?

 

[panthera]

Or she killed Caylee after she hung up with Tony at 3am and left the phone at home while she snuck the body out? Cindy dialed the number trying to locate her before she left for work? Would she be savvy enough to sneak back in while GA was asleep and use the computer to make it appear she was there all along AND grab her phone and hang out close by (maybe at Lee's)most of the day?

I think the timing is very possible. Also, I don't think it would be too difficult for her to just have killed Caylee and then go into the house and use the computer. Look at her in the Blockbuster video with TL that evening! And partying at Fusian later that week! In other words, for somebody with no conscience, yes, a think she could've easily gone back into the house with GA sleeping and if he'd awakened and seen her she would've lied just like always that Caylee's with the nanny. And yes, I do think she could've been at LA's house. MOO

 

[Leila]

Yes she could have left the house & parked nearby & it sounds like a likely thing to do after such a fight.

What has me wondering is the "Pooh" blanket.

Maybe she did leave the house with Caylee & took the Blanket with her so Caylee could sleep in the car.

Would Cindy let Casey walk out of the house with Caylee after such a fight?

I really don't know ...Just speculating.

I'm leaning towards Casey "choking" Caylee in her room in a fit of rage.

After the fight with Cindy I think Casey was mad enough to do it.

That's a likely scenario,

Just speculation...........what if Casey stormed off to her room after the fight, taking Caylee with her.

Cindy, angry and upset, paces the floor and waits for George to get home from work, so she can dump all this on him. George comes home and Cindy and George go to the master bedroom or out in the backyard or the screened porch to talk.

While her parents are talking and out of view of her bedroom door and the front door, Casey slips out the front door with Caylee. At this point, Caylee could be either dead or alive.

I'm inclined to think Caylee is still alive because Casey spends half the night on the phone with TL instead of going to his apartment. TL doesn't want Casey to bring Caylee to his apartment. If Caylee was dead by this time, Casey would just go to TL's apartment and if asked where Caylee is, say she's at her parents home or with the nanny.

 

[Ada]

IF Casey JUST killed Caylee, she wouldn't have been to eager to sneak into her parent's house JUST to upload a picture of Fusian. She'd wait until after George went to work like she did every other one of times she snuck into the Anthony house during the 31 days she and Caylee were "gone".

I agree. That's why I think she was just still in the house when she was on the computer.

CA says she passed by and heard them breathing? I don't believe she heard that but she did not knock on the door or look in. I think KC knew she wouldn't, not after the terrible fight the night before.

So I think KC hung out in her bedroom, waiting for CA to leave. Did some stuff on the computer. Got ready to leave. GA was sound asleep, so she stuffed Caylee in a bag and was on her way.

 

[3girls]

If you use a landline, you don't get charged minutes for checking the messages. If you use your cell phone, you do.

 

[Jolynna]

Originally Posted by white_envelope
Or she killed Caylee after she hung up with Tony at 3am and left the phone at home while she snuck the body out? Cindy dialed the number trying to locate her before she left for work? Would she be savvy enough to sneak back in while GA was asleep and use the computer to make it appear she was there all along AND grab her phone and hang out close by (maybe at Lee's)most of the day?

Would Casey be savvy enough? My opinion is no.

I don't think she could be away from her phone that long either.

And: :Welcome-12-june:

 

[MAMABEAR]

Or they went home to re-watch Mitnik give George the finger.

Any other long-term eyeglass wearer out there? That's how I always pushed my glasses back up my nose. No one ever accused me of flipping them the bird!

Pa-Pa Bear used to use his middle fanger to push his glasses up. I member how I hated that. LOL He had huge hands and up that fanger would go. I use that fanger but the rest of the fangers are straight. Now------there have been times that I have actually given the fanger by pushin my glasses up--you know---like a prop. Pa-Pa Bear had a few of my "push-ups". LOL Not makin fun of my lil Pa-Pa. He was cool.

 

[jjgram]

I was just wondering.... I use to work in a Leasing office many many years ago..
You get very busy... and interrupted... etc...

SO>>>>> when I was Look at the card... supposedly filled out by the Leasing agent... I could also see this...

C Zanaida Gonzales... but could have been: G Zanaida Gonzales

the writing of the agent... might not have been completed

the ink pen look like it could have failed....

the C / or G L@@Ked to me to go BELOW the ________ LINE !

I'm just saying...

I do Not Know that Zanaida Gonzales is: C Zanaida Gonzales

Or PERHAPS: Z for 1st name....

G for Last Name.....
sometimes someone ask your name.... You might say your
Last Name 1st...

Thus the C/ mistaken G

Just saying it is a possibility ! ?

Besides: KC Said: Zanaida Fernandez Gonzales @ Sawgrass

It is KC's Lie :behindbar:liar::liar::liar:
a woman named Zanida Gonzales merely ask to see a future apt for a home for herself...
and suddenly looses her job...Her Children are harrassed
and
grown/Professional men & women tell her to her face that
she is "NOT a # `10 attractive Person"
Dear God ! That is just unreal....
what ever her place in life was to be at the SAWGRASS
Apts on that day... and KC see her/ her automobile etc.
GOD IS USING IT TO HELP CONVICT KC FOR THE MURDER OF
HER TODDLER CHILD CAYLEE MARIE ~

~ ~ ~ "coincidence" I think Not..... Divine Intervention of GOD "YES"

That's how it is when Bad People Do Bad Things !
God many times intervenes so.............................
perhaps a lesson to be learned ................
Don't Mess With God's Little ANGELS ! ! ! !
or
this might happen to you :behindbar:behindbar:behindbar:behindbar
JMO
& I stand behind it & Beside It !!!!!

God Bless !
jjgram

 

[MAMABEAR]

<Just thinking outloud here> So, if they did leave the house around 1pm on the 16th like George said, her cell phone didn't appear to leave the AREA till after 4pm when she was on her way towards Tony's place? She got rid of Caylee sometime between 1pm and arriving at Tony's?

I would think Caylee was in the trunk?

 

[MAMABEAR]

I always use my pointer, but I've seen lots of other people using their middle finger. oh wait, maybe they've all been giving ME the finger.

OMG----------2 funny. Thanks---needed a LOL

 

[Chezhire]

Interesting. The house phone was calling Casey's cell phone for messages? Now why wouldn't you check for cell phone messages from your cell phone?

To preserve minutes if on a limited minute plan