2009.05.07 - new motion by State to Determine Counsel

[RR0004]

.....umm, 'cause we haven't finished negotiating how big a slice of Ca$ey Anthony'$ $ob $tory pie this dude is going to receive yet.....

I'm so glad you said it...I thought it, but was reluctant to say it 'cause just thinking it makes me kinda sick.

 

[RR0004]

Bolded by me, Chezhire.

Though I haven't read part (f), as mentioned above in 3.112 subsection (g)(2), which may provide JBaez with a basis for being co-counsel, I'd be interested in knowing whether JBaez has met the criteria contained in subsection (g)(2)(E) - anyone other than me wonder if JBaez has attended 12 hours of CLE devoted to defense of capital cases...

wonder if he can do it online

 

[BeanE]

Just read the updates to today's news section. So . . . . the new qualified attorney is from out of state and JB and company have created their own exception to the statute requiring that he or she immediately enter an appearance -- they need to protect the lawyer. Can anyone direct me to that part of the law?????

Amethyst, do you have a link to the news story this is from?

What does the attorney need to be protected from??

 

[RR0004]

Amethyst, do you have a link to the news story this is from?

What does the attorney need to be protected from??

the media

 

[Chezhire]

*Very* interesting!

I wonder if Terry has some concerns about KC's defense.

Though he very well may, he was previously enrolled as counsel and, therefore, he is bound by the attorney-client privilege.

Moreover, he will not say or do anything that could be detrimental to her defense, even if he is no longer a part of said defense.

 

[Searchfortruth]

Timeline Speculation by me...

Sunday/Monday:
Orlando Sentinel publishes a 2-part expose' on Baez's background. All relevant in regards to his ability and ethics to be involved in this case. It does not make him look good at all.

Late Monday:
Baez, knowing the expose' will get tons of coverage and make lots of people question his abilities, files the COV motion, which has been sitting on his desk for some time already, ready to go. He hopes this will deflect attention away from his expose'. Even though it's MONTHS too early to be filing this motion (as he was told by Judge S and SA in the last hearing).

Tuesday:
Baez does some depos, and also holds some impromptu pressers to talk about the COV and depos and deflect attention away from the Sentinel article (Although Kathi B. DOES get in a Sentinel question... heh)

Very respectfully snipped...did you notice that "JAB" said he was glad that Kathi brought the Sentinel article up, after she questioned him on it ? YEAH RIGHT !

I think your time line clearly shows what was behind the COV being filed... Jose wanted that article to GO AWAY and QUICKLY !

 

[Marina2]

Bolded by me, Chezhire.

Though I haven't read part (f), as mentioned above in 3.112 subsection (g)(2), which may provide JBaez with a basis for being co-counsel, I'd be interested in knowing whether JBaez has met the criteria contained in subsection (g)(2)(E) - anyone other than me wonder if JBaez has attended 12 hours of CLE devoted to defense of capital cases...

Thanks, Chezire. JB doesn't qualify under part F as that part states what is required to be lead counsel in a DP case. I wonder though, if he meets the other requirements under the subsection (g)(2) besides (g)(2)(E). Does he have the trial experience?
And, how easy would it be for him to gain the CE units if he does need them?

 

[ClockWatcher]

Amethyst, do you have a link to the news story this is from?

What does the attorney need to be protected from??

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3714285&postcount=1855

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said, most likely, the new lawyer is not local.

"It seems that the defense loves drama and this is just another example of the drama that this defense seems to play out," Sheaffer said. "The defense appears to be very unstable."

Baez's publicist said they're trying to protect the new attorney's identity because they don't want him to be attacked by the media.

"It's not a staged production. Again, let's not lose sight of what all of this is about, which is defending Casey Anthony on the charges of murder," Sheaffer said.

 

[Chezhire]

wonder if he can do it online

IDK what FL's rules are re: online CLE, but LA only allows a couple of online hours per calendar year, and our rules are based upon the ABA model rules, so...I rather doubt he can complete 12 that way. If he's a few shy, then possibly...

 

[kageykaren]

I wasn't sure where to ask this. I just read in current newa that because JB is not qualified as a DP lawyer that the depos he has been conducting are not valid and can be repeated by the new DP lawyer? I'm far from knowledgable in this arena and need help for this explanation. Thanks

 

[TexasLil]

I wasn't sure where to ask this. I just read in current newa that because JB is not qualified as a DP lawyer that the depos he has been conducting are not valid and can be repeated by the new DP lawyer? I'm far from knowledgable in this arena and need help for this explanation. Thanks

I think the concern is that the depositions were not conducted by a death qualified attorney and, therefore, the quality probably isn't as good. If I understand correctly the depositions can not be repeated. Chez, can you assist here?

 

[cecybeans]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3714285&postcount=1855

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said, most likely, the new lawyer is not local.

"It seems that the defense loves drama and this is just another example of the drama that this defense seems to play out," Sheaffer said. "The defense appears to be very unstable."

Baez's publicist said they're trying to protect the new attorney's identity because they don't want him to be attacked by the media.

"It's not a staged production. Again, let's not lose sight of what all of this is about, which is defending Casey Anthony on the charges of murder," Sheaffer said.

Or maybe, like Macaluso, this person still has a few things to "work out" before they can get on board. The faster they give the name the faster he/she will be investigated here, lol. Media my foot, the media isn't nearly as fast as some of the folks we have on here!

 

[Whisperer]

How long does it take for the motion by the State to be answered?Is it time limited?

If JB leaves her, she will implode; that is, unless she has that young lawyer from the firm wrapped. We may be able to gain info from who is visiting her.

Does anyone have a link to the visitor's log? Much appreciated if you do.

 

[Chezhire]

So...I checked out FL's CLE requirements - says 30 hours every 3 years, and doesn't say anywhere that I could find that there's any limitation on online hours.

Also, CLE info. is confidential, so unless JBaez opens his big mouth, I doubt we'll find out. See here: http://www.floridabar.org/divexe/rrtfb.nsf/FV/AC42E99D4DD6CD9085256BC3004805D1

 

[Gypsy Road]

Very Odd. I was just looking through some older news and found this quote from a story published April 14, 2008 that ClickOrlando had up on their site.

Here goes:

"There are currently eight known attorneys on the Anthony defense team, and three are death-penalty qualified, Local 6 News reported. Also, three other attorneys working behind the scenes for the defense are also death-penalty qualified, sources told Local 6 News."
You can read the entire article here: http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19174406/detail.html


So who are these 8 attorney's and which 3 are death-penalty qualified? Is this just careless reporting or does JAB really have 8 attorney's working with him and 3 who are death qualified? So which is it?

The media is really starting to bug me. Wish they would get their facts correct.

 

[MAMABEAR]

http://swartzlenamon.com/deathpenal...alified-criminal-defense-attorneys-in-florida

A defendant who is represented by retained counsel is not entitled to the appointment of a second lawyer at public expense merely because that defendant is unable to bear the cost of retaining two lawyers.


Guess I got my question answered as to whether or not Baez can stay on as co-counsel if KC is unable to pay to retain a DP qualified attorney and must rely on DP public defender[/QUOTE]


This didn't quote right---from here up is your quote.
So then, JB will have to work for free if he wants to stay?

 

[JSR]

I'd say the defense has had enough time to file this and I hope the judge acts quickly and enforces these rules now, before any additional defense motions are filed.[/B]

This is my concern as well. And frankly I believe the COV is what prompted the SA to file this motion. It's clear they want their ducks in a row and avoid any future potential appellate issues.

 

[amethyst221]

Amethyst, do you have a link to the news story this is from?

What does the attorney need to be protected from??

BeanE,

I was citing the same source reported above by clockwatcher. The lawyer needs to be protected from the media, it seems.

 

[Gypsy Road]

BeanE,

I was citing the same source reported above by clockwatcher. The lawyer needs to be protected from the media, it seems.

:waitasec:Gee...that's a first! The lawyer needs protection from the media? What - is he/she skeeered? All of the other defense attorney's involved KC's case can't seem get ENOUGH media attention!

ETA: I don't think JB has a DP attorney lined up yet! JMO!

 

[ThoughtElf]

Very Odd. I was just looking through some older news and found this quote from a story published April 14, 2008 that ClickOrlando had up on their site.

Here goes:

"There are currently eight known attorneys on the Anthony defense team, and three are death-penalty qualified, Local 6 News reported. Also, three other attorneys working behind the scenes for the defense are also death-penalty qualified, sources told Local 6 News."
You can read the entire article here: http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19174406/detail.html


So who are these 8 attorney's and which 3 are death-penalty qualified? Is this just careless reporting or does JAB really have 8 attorney's working with him and 3 who are death qualified? So which is it?

The media is really starting to bug me. Wish they would get their facts correct.

It came directly from JB - we discussed a lot in the thread linked below:
Just putting it out there that JB said on April 14th he had at least 6 (count'em) DP qualified attorneys on the team:

Quote:
Originally Posted by PotatoHead
JB spoke last night as he left the jail after a half hour visit with KC

From the media thread (Thanks Angel Who Cares!)

VIDEO~Baez: Forces Out To Get Casey Anthony
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19174398/index.html

Article:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19174406/detail.html

Cliff notes:
1. Baez says, "... anyone who thinks this will force Casey to plea is sadly mistaken. She won't." 1:07
2. costs to tax payers will triple. 2:08
3. He mentions the total of 8 lawyers currently 3 of whom we know are DP qualified; LBK, Mike W, and Terry L. 2:19
4. The video also goes on to state that there are 3 additional unnamed DP qualified attorneys working on the case. 2:40


So, who are the additional 3 lawyers?

Pulled that from JB's reaction to the DP thread here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...20#post3603320

Good discussion there.