2009.05.07 - new motion by State to Determine Counsel

[reeseeva]

Trying to stay behind the wheel and get face time for as long as he can eek it out. Remember this guy was just three years into his career before he exploded on our screens on almost a daily basis. He loves this newfound fame(cough, cough), IMO more than his interested in being an effective and responsible officer of the court,[/QUOTE]


For anyone that missed JVM Issues last night..


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3706715&postcount=346

 

[debbie0604]

If LKB is to be lead counsel, KC is in trouble. Her harsh tone and brash manner will not garner sympathy for the client.

LKB does well at talking science - well she is a great obsfucator in that arena, but her expertise stops there.
IMHO.

In that case, I think she'll do a fine job representing her... I say bring her on. :clap:

 

[debbie0604]

I don't remember exactly where - either a media article or discussion on here - but I remember reading some time ago that if Casey had to be declared indigent and Public monies became involved, that would force Baez to expose where ALL previous funds came from. Which I don't think he would want to do. Might make him look bad. :boohoo:

I think I remember reading or hearing that too. I think you're right.

 

[travelgal]

I have said this before, and I am going to say it again! I don't think Casey/Baez have access to the defense funding they THOUGHT they would (thank you SA for filing a motion concerning where the funding was coming from!).

I think the first DP attorney was retained with initial licensing funds at the beginning of the case, but now that there is no money train, he is not willing to proceed without additional funds.

I am beginning to suspect that Baez & LKB have discussed who they would LIKE to bring on board, but no one is yet retained (re: "big secret!". Perhaps that is why George and Cindy booked this new appearance on Larry King? Wonder if they (since Baez CAN'T) agreed to appear on LK with "new" pictures and videos so they can use the fees to pay for a reatined DP attorney?!

I asked this a few days ago, but got no response so wonder if anyone with a legal background can answer....

IF the defense is unable to retain a PAID DP attorney, and Baez has to file a motion for Casey to be deemed indigent (like he did for Nilton Diaz in that case), and the motion is GRANTED (so Casey has a DP public defender), what happens to Baez? Can he still be second chair?? Or can Baez file a motion for monetary cost relief now to help pay for a DP qualified attorney if Casey/family is unable to come up with funding??

The Larry King booking is news to me.....when is this supposed to take place??

 

[Kentjbkent]

See thread for today's current news. I think it was May 16th (?)...about two weeks before Baez and LKB are to break the news about who the NEW DP attorney is! :crazy:

 

[zoomom]

These guys advertise that they handled a capitol murder case and got a not guilty verdict.....

http://www.gravesspivey.com/

AND....shouldn't he have gotten a death penalty lawyer immediately - like the SAME DAY - after the state put it back on the table?

Thats what I'm sayin!

 

[trafficsUP66]

The Larry King booking is news to me.....when is this supposed to take place??

Yes!
But if true....... LK doesn't have quite the following of the Queen of Daytime ala Oprah W.

But of course, the A's must believe he's got more--what was it they said they bowed out for--oh, yeah Integrity???!!!

Or something like that. Please correct me if I am wrong for I am quite Jaded now & forever and have taken a much needed sabbatical from this mess of a bunch. Got drawn back in 2 days in a row now, Ugh! But the wonderful news of the SA's filing is so refreshing and right it gives one hope that the DP filing against CMA is not as some may presume a desperate act to compel what should have been done long ago--a killer begging to cut her losses and deal while she still MAY have a chance. With the right attorney on board, of course!

 

[MAMABEAR]

Ok---I have figured out where all this is goin. DP lawyer steps in---JB out, totally---KC gets mad and fires her new Lawyer and decides to represent herself. I'm tellin ya---is written in the wind and blown thru the trees.

 

[cecybeans]

Soooo, Baez is objecting to the SA's motion to prove a death penalty qualified Lawyer will be on board? HE will reveal the new Lawyer at the court hearing at the end of the month? Does he think this is some sort of debutant's coming out party.....or what?

They may be having trouble finding a willing "deb" to take to this manky prom. Maybe getting a lot of RSVPs "sorry we must decline your invitation".

 

[ThoughtElf]

Just putting it out there that JB said on April 14th he had at least 6 (count'em) DP qualified attorneys on the team:

JB spoke last night as he left the jail after a half hour visit with KC

From the media thread (Thanks Angel Who Cares!)

VIDEO~Baez: Forces Out To Get Casey Anthony
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19174398/index.html

Article:
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19174406/detail.html

Cliff notes:
1. Baez says, "... anyone who thinks this will force Casey to plea is sadly mistaken. She won't." 1:07
2. costs to tax payers will triple. 2:08
3. He mentions the total of 8 lawyers currently 3 of whom we know are DP qualified; LBK, Mike W, and Terry L. 2:19
4. The video also goes on to state that there are 3 additional unnamed DP qualified attorneys working on the case. 2:40


So, who are the additional 3 lawyers?

Pulled that from JB's reaction to the DP thread here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3603320#post3603320

Good discussion there.

 

[Muzikman]

Ok---I have figured out where all this is goin. DP lawyer steps in---JB out, totally---KC gets mad and fires her new Lawyer and decides to represent herself. I'm tellin ya---is written in the wind and blown thru the trees.

I was thinking about this earlier. If he brings in a COMPETENT DP lawyer, someone who will take the bull by the horns so to speak, who is going to have to sign a contract with Casey (correct, legal eagles?) - once they get up to speed on the case, and figure out that Baez's meddling is doing much more harm than good, would they be able to kick Baez out? They would need Casey's consent, correct?

 

[Searchfortruth]

Since Mr Baez trial history has been mentioned in several threads, I thought it would be interesting to look into the ONE of the murder case we are aware of that he participated in. This would be the case of Nilton Diaz in Lake County who has now filed for an appeal based on Mr Baez' representation. (This was NOT a death penalty case.) The case can be found on the Lake County Clerk of Courts website, and is about 13 pages when printed, but here are just a few (smiliar?) highlights. (My comments BOLDED)

2/16/06 - Arrested and Charged - Notice of Appearance

2/21/06 - He was originally represented by a Min So.

2/22/06 - Notice and Substitution of Atty from Atty So to Atty Naratil.

2/26/06 - Notice of Appearance for CO-COUNSEL Atty Jose A Baez
(I am assuming Naratil was lead, since Baez was listed as Co-Counsel...all future motions and appearances list Baez only)

2/23/06 - Felony Affidavit of Indigent Status/DEFT DECLINED Public Def

3/30/06 - Communication from Judge to Defense Attorney advising that appearance is mandatory at all plea negotations and court dates
(Guess Stricklands warning to Baez was not the first time he got reprimanded by a Judge!)

4/10/06 - 7/30/07 Repeated and numerous cont. of case..."DEFT not pres for sent - Atty not pres - case cont to..." (a year and 3 months worth...wonder if we will see similar in KC case?)

8/2/07 - Court instructs Defense that he must be at all PNC's no matter what his schedule is.
(There is that judge's reprimand again...)

10/01/07 - Dept not present for motion hearing - repres by Atty Baez who was present via telephone (he did this often) for Deft's Motion to Compel - State Objects - Court instructs defense to provide court a letter from the board of pathology that they need an order to release records or re-set hearing so they can be heard on this issue
(Didn't we see this same scenario in Casey's trial when Strickland told Biaz that the state was not going to do his work for him?)

1/24/08 - Motion to declare DEFT indigent for costs Atty: Baez Jose A

1/28/08 - Motion Granted (I think this is where we are headed in KC case)

3/21/08 - Faxed Motion to Increase Monetary Award for Costs Atty: Baez Jose A

3/25/08 - Motion Granted to Increase Monetary Award

5/1/08 - DEFENDED IS CONVICTED BY JURY

5/7/08 - Faxed Motion to Amend Order for Costs Atty: Baez Jose A

5/23/08 - Motion Granted to Increase Monetary Award

8/21/08 - Court finds DEFT indigent for purposes of appeal and appoints the office of the public defender; Atty Baez to file appropriate montion to withdraw all counsel.

8/29/08 - Motion to Withdraw Atty: Baez Jose A

So you can hire experts and lawyers from all over the country and at the end of the trial declare your client indigent, and the state foots the bill ? I think I am getting sick and I don't even live in Florida.

 

[whiteangora]

They may be having trouble finding a willing "deb" to take to this manky prom. Maybe getting a lot of RSVPs "sorry we must decline your invitation".

Heh - Heh........I can't imagine why all of the world famous lawyers aren't just begging to join the team.:waitasec:
I hear Mark Geragos is free:crazy:

 

[ThoughtElf]

So you can hire experts and lawyers from all over the country and at the end of the trial declare your client indigent, and the state foots the bill ? I think I am getting sick and I don't even live in Florida.

Wonder if this is related to the $10,000.00 JB owed the expert Dr. that he never paid? hmmm

 

[shgrbkr]

Hmm. I've followed LKB through the Phil Spector trial. She was initially successful in a hung jury if IIRC.

Later, in a second trial he was found guilty. I so hate people like LKB, Henry Lee, Lawrence Koblinski, and all of the other 'players' in this case who seem to have no regard for the truth.

IMO opinion, these {people] are just latching on to this case to further their own 'celebrity' in this case. I don't know how they lay their heads down on their pillows and get a good night's rest knowing they're instrumental in attempting to get such a despicable person like KC off on 'technicalities'.

I lost respect for this entire 'dream team' Baez assembled when it's been proven over and over that they don't care about the innocence or guilt. They only seem to care about how much money they make and how often their names get in the news.

What a travesty for Caylee.

Yep. Greed is the lone motivator behind ALL of these people. I thought it was supposed to be about justice. Silly me...

 

[MD MOMMY]

Bold = mine.


Who ever takes this case must know they will not be paid (maybe ever), and they will have to put in zillions of hours! Who in their right mind would want to be the Captain of the Titanic???!

Me thinks whomever can "pen" a good book at the end.:crazy:

 

[Searchfortruth]

Wonder if this is related to the $10,000.00 JB owed the expert Dr. that he never paid? hmmm

Maybe the state of Florida didn't want to pay for JB's pricey expert ? I wonder if Henry L. and the other experts plan on being "compensated" for their work on Casey's trial...they are probably not concerned with money where justice is concerned...LOL !

 

[skygirl]

Wow! I just had a visual - Laura & Linda dueling it out. Can you say-----CAT FIGHT!

My money is on Laura, although linda may get a punch in or two. Then you have the cheerleaders, LL & JB! Their facial expressions alone will be educational.

Laura D-B, is a smart blonde.:bowdown:
And wants Justice for Caylee. I don't think she gives a ratsazz about KC.

If you want a preview, listen and watch some of the motions videos up in the media links thread. And better yet, the bond hearing is an oldie but goodie if you can find it. I haven't been able to in a while now.

imo

 

[cyberborg]

I was thinking about this earlier. If he brings in a COMPETENT DP lawyer, someone who will take the bull by the horns so to speak, who is going to have to sign a contract with Casey (correct, legal eagles?) - once they get up to speed on the case, and figure out that Baez's meddling is doing much more harm than good, would they be able to kick Baez out? They would need Casey's consent, correct?

I should imagine that as a condition of becoming the Lead Counsel that attorney will agree to retaining JAB and his future licensing rights, both for the prior meddling on this case and to protect his investment -- based on KC selected him and no-one would have any piece of the action if it wasn't for JAB.

The thieves are fighting over the spoils and trying to carve the pot before KC is even tried.

 

[SuziQ]

Still catching up on this thread, but FWIW, I'm not sure LKB is qualified to be lead chair at a DP trial.