2009.08.05 State Deposition of George Anthony

[Paintr]

That was the image George says he had of her .One of the first interviews shown of George was when he was telling us that Casey was such a good girl, she didn't drink,always came home early, didn't party. Then the photos hit the newspapers....

Question for GA...if KC was such a 'good' girl why did she choose such horrible (according to GA and CA) friends? Why would sweet KC want to hang around with such terrible people?

 

[luvthesleuths]

I really got the feeling the separation was orchestrated by CA and KC, and dad was the odd man out. The timing of their separation is really suspect to me, separating only 2 months after Caylee was born? Hmmm.

You'd think he would have been handy to have around with a brand new baby in the house, I'm sure Mom helped out BIG TIME with the new baby,(or ran the show most likely) and dad is gone from the house when she is only 2 months?? And is away for 8 months?! Hmmmm.

Was it a girls against boys?!! Mom and KC were annoyed by dad who was trying to make sure KC was on the right track in life, so they boot him out? He wasn't the bread winner, he was causing precious KC stress and she just had a baby- so he had to go.

Did KC manipulate everyone? Did they also conspire together to hide her pregnancy?

I'm really starting to think KC is going to throw mom under the bus in some way.

Is it possible CA knew she wasn't working and the two of them conspired to keep that info from GA? (or they want to make it look like that and throw him under the bus! lol)

Everyone seems to make it quite clear that Mom generated and controlled the money in the household. I'm sure CA must of been dear darling KC's main source of income once she had the baby, if not CA who else?? On top of the money KC was given by Mom, she stole money, how is it possible that CA thought she was generating some kind of income from a job?

Oh it boggles the mind.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Wow. I just finished reading all of GA depo. Wow.

He doesn't know if he cut his grass, but he was positive he didn't put that tape on the can "there is no way I would of put that tape on the can like that"... "thats just not me, I would have put the tape on neatly..." He couldn't admit to cutting the lawn cause he would have needed the gas can, and if he did, he would have put the tape there or noticed it there, if there is a match to that tape and the tape found with Caylee he was pre-emptively trying to add some confusion to who used the tape on the can. (like his old stand-by's JG, AL or AH...LOLOL)

About the garage photo GA was shown and asked about: I wonder if what they were getting at was this:

Prior to the comments about the towel and stuff on the washing machine, he was asked about the other things on the shelf above, in real detail. Isn't that where the laundry bag CA was found in usually kept?

GA (trying to think ahead of where the line of questioning is going again) fixates on the fact that he would never leave the mess, if he knows exactly where everything is and how neat things should look....why didn't he notice the missing laundry bag?

Just a thought.

Ok on to the next depo LA, I think I'll save CA till last. lol.

I snipped your post respectfully, it's good.
I agree that the gas can tape information is very troublesome for GA.

Are you saying that LE may have been showing GA the picture that had been taken on December 11, 2008 to see if he noticed a missing laundry bag? I thought the bag that was found at the remains site was similar to the bag that was found in the A's garage not THE bag. They may have been part of a set. I read a post that said the bag that was used possibly was from the bedroom and had contained toys/balls.

I may be misunderstanding your post or the situation as I often do. :waitasec:

 

[Woe.be.gone]

And the framework being set for the patio!!! They also asked about shovels. Very interesting indeed.

I find this activity very intriguing as having been done at that time - especially since GA had just begun a new job (preoccupation caused by having to learn something new along with a new routine and trouble brewing big time within family, etc.).
Seems untimely but timely if you know what I mean.

 

[Friday]

Just look at the end of the depos, there is a complete word count there.....now I'm curious and gonna have a look.

Found it. Duh. LOL

At a rough estimate, the word "remember" appeared 200 to 250 times in the depo. Some of those will undoubtedly occur in the question being asked by the SA, and occasionally George surely must have said, "I remember" rather than "I don't (or can't) remember."

 

[luvthesleuths]

Snipped Are you saying that LE may have been showing GA the picture that had been taken on December 11, 2008 to see if he noticed a missing laundry bag? I thought the bag that was found at the remains site was similar to the bag that was found in the A's garage not THE bag. They may have been part of a set. I read a post that said the bag that was used possibly was from the bedroom and had contained toys/balls.

Good point. Or was the toys/balls bag kept in the garage and they found the match in the bedroom? *ugh too much information in this case to keep straight*

Also the questioner may have known something that we don't. yet.

When he started asking GA about the garage and where things were positioned and kept, the photo perhaps was just being used as a point of reference for the line of questioning.

ie. we may not know that they have documented another occasion GA may have said something different about the garage set up to LE, or someone in the family said something different in their depo and they were trying to get GA to contradict their story...?

Just a thought.

 

[Friday]

He really does seem clueless as to the severity of the situation - almost as if he is dense or something.

Another poster mentioned that he may have Alzheimers but I think what he suffers from is selective amnesia.

It's as if something is right in front of him but he is insisting he can't see it even though everyone else in the room can.
I'm going to whisper this; I almost found myself feeling sorry for him at times - maybe CA's been knocking him on the head repeatedly or something. :banghead:

Re my bold-- I know what you mean. Long ago, George allowed Cindy to convince him that the only things that matter in life are the things that matter to her. In order for him to matter to her, he's chosen to sacrifice his integrity, dignity, courage and, of course, his pride. The fault, however, isn't Cindy's. George made these choices every step of the way. If he wasn't a man of weak character to begin with, he wouldn't have let himself become such a pathetic excuse for a man, a husband, and a father. I remind myself of all this whenever I start feeling pity for him. :blowkiss:

 

[ZsaZsa]

He really does seem clueless as to the severity of the situation - almost as if he is dense or something.

Another poster mentioned that he may have Alzheimers but I think what he suffers from is selective amnesia.

It's as if something is right in front of him but he is insisting he can't see it even though everyone else in the room can.
I'm going to whisper this; I almost found myself feeling sorry for him at times - maybe CA's been knocking him on the head repeatedly or something. :banghead:

I think it's more a malignant arrogance that this whole family has- none of them admit there was anything wrong in the Anthony house- even though the whole world can see there clearly was.

 

[Kentjbkent]

He really does seem clueless as to the severity of the situation - almost as if he is dense or something.

Another poster mentioned that he may have Alzheimers but I think what he suffers from is selective amnesia.

It's as if something is right in front of him but he is insisting he can't see it even though everyone else in the room can.
I'm going to whisper this; I almost found myself feeling sorry for him at times - maybe CA's been knocking him on the head repeatedly or something. :banghead:

I am so on-the-fence about George. He reminds me of a very old friend of mine who has also been in a very bad marriage for a very long time, but feels like she has no option to get out.

Sometimes I feel like George has been beaten down for so long, he no longer has the emotional strength or confidence to take control of his life, even when he logically knows right from wrong and tries to remedy injustices. He is clearly a man under control who cannot be "saved" from his hell until he gains the strength to say ENOUGH! But I suspect CA nipped that in the bud when she probably hindered any post-Daytona counselling....

Poor George will now pay the price for life....

 

[3doglady]

What gets me is these people don't just tell lies, they tell extravagant lies. CA's statement about "mom of the year" GA's "over the moon " happy about his unwed, unemployed daughter being pregnant.
Hey GA, what about the time you and CA came home and found JG(whom you thought was the dad) sitting on the bed with KC and Caylee? You hit the roof and threatened to kick him out of the house. Sitting on the bed with KC was horrible, but getting her pregnant made you happy?

 

[Kentjbkent]

What gets me is these people don't just tell lies, they tell extravagant lies. CA's statement about "mom of the year" GA's "over the moon " happy about his unwed, unemployed daughter being pregnant.
Hey GA, what about the time you and CA came home and found JG(whom you thought was the dad) sitting on the bed with KC and Caylee? You hit the roof and threatened to kick him out of the house. Sitting on the bed with KC was horrible, but getting her pregnant made you happy?

I think it was Cindy that hit the roof? Seems like I recall JG stating this in an interview (police?) and said he and Cindy never got along after that incident (I think they were "laying" on the bed as well)

 

[3doglady]

I think it was Cindy that hit the roof? Seems like I recall JG stating this in an interview (police?) and said he and Cindy never got along after that incident (I think they were "laying" on the bed as well)

LOL I thought CA told LE about it. She told GA to leave and she would handle it. JG and CA argued because CA criticized KC in front of him and he stood up for KC. Seems like JG told CA he did not want to hear her talk that way to KC again.

 

[Patty G]

I am only getting around to reading George's statement and what really stands out to me besides George's neatness about the duct tape on the gas cans is about "not sure about cutting his grass during this time."

Page 167
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html

In Florida as well as any other state that has grass, you would clearly be cutting your grass between the months of June to August. Grass grows the most during these months especially in Florida.

The Anthony home is "pristine" at all times. I can't even imagine George not cutting the grass between June and August.

 

[Valhall]

What gets me is these people don't just tell lies, they tell extravagant lies. CA's statement about "mom of the year" GA's "over the moon " happy about his unwed, unemployed daughter being pregnant.
Hey GA, what about the time you and CA came home and found JG(whom you thought was the dad) sitting on the bed with KC and Caylee? You hit the roof and threatened to kick him out of the house. Sitting on the bed with KC was horrible, but getting her pregnant made you happy?

Yeah, seriously. Bein's I got the pleasure of getting hit between the eyes with my son informing, when he was 17 years old, that I was about to become a grandparent, I can assure you that the instantaneous reaction is not that of the clouds rolling apart, a pure white beam of light from God, a dove descending and angelic voices singing Hallelujah. Give me a break. While it is a delicate situation to handle - because the first thing you want to do is scream - Were you even in the room the multiple times I or your father were talking to you about these issues???? - or blurting one of those "extreme utterances" like "Well, s** of a b****!"...you can't do that. Because the "baby" is not what has you torqued off, it's the actions that led to the "baby" that have you torqued off. So it's a delicate dance of, Well, we're going to get through this and "You know, I wish you could have been more responsible."

But I did not sit there weeping tears of joy and dancing around going "Oh goodie, goodie gum-drops! I'm going to be a grandma!!!!"

They really think that everyone they talk to is ignorant enough to just take their blather at face value.

 

[Valhall]

And as a follow up...

My grandson is now 8 (he was born 13 weeks premature - whew!) and I actually have him this weekend and so I've been getting to play WII a lot and watch Iron Giant (his favorite movie) and I assure you - no bravado here whatsoever - that if my son or my grandson's mother ever did anything that led to the death of my grandson I would assist LE in all attempts to bring justice for his death and if it failed...

well, it would just go down hill from there.

 

[Patty G]

I am only getting around to reading George's statement and what really stands out to me besides George's neatness about the duct tape on the gas cans is about "not sure about cutting his grass during this time."

Page 167
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html

In Florida as well as any other state that has grass, you would clearly be cutting your grass between the months of June to August. Grass grows the most during these months especially in Florida.

The Anthony home is "pristine" at all times. I can't even imagine George not cutting the grass between June and August.

Now here George says he tries to cut the grass every week to 10 days (page 199). This totally contradicts what George stated on page 167 "not sure if I cut the grass between June to August".

 

[CBTampa]

And as a follow up...

My grandson is now 8 (he was born 13 weeks premature - whew!) and I actually have him this weekend and so I've been getting to play WII a lot and watch Iron Giant (his favorite movie) and I assure you - no bravado here whatsoever - that if my son or my grandson's mother ever did anything that led to the death of my grandson I would assist LE in all attempts to bring justice for his death and if it failed...

well, it would just go down hill from there.

Your post made me smile. Good for you and you are l as you should be. I didn't have that to deal with during my children's teenage years. Although, there talks about the conquences of their actions. I have three grandchildren and if something happened to one of them I would support them if they were accused of something. There is message in the fact that they haven't visited their daughter since she was arrested. If it were one of my children I would be knocking down the door to visit them. I would care if it were taped or not and there wouldn't be a attorney stopping me. I think KC has refused to see them. She can't face them. IMO

 

[Patty G]

Now here George says he tries to cut the grass every week to 10 days (page 199). This totally contradicts what George stated on page 167 "not sure if I cut the grass between June to August".

George is clearly trying to distance himself from the gas cans and playing with when he cuts his grass. However, by his own statement he cuts his grass every 7 to 10 days.

I always thought that George and Cindy only put down pavers. I must of missed that they actually poured a 4 inch slab of concrete. Page 203

 

[cecybeans]

George is clearly trying to distance himself from the gas cans and playing with when he cuts his grass. However, by his own statement he cuts his grass every 7 to 10 days.

I always thought that George and Cindy only put down pavers. I must of missed that they actually poured a 4 inch slab of concrete. Page 203

I think that is really weird too. Ashton caught him in that little bit of b.s. he tried to wiggle his way out.

For one thing, nobody that lives in FL in the summer thinks you cut your grass once a week. When the rain starts in June, it's like twice a week. You can hear it growing. A good rain and it's ready in two or three days. I'd guess since Caylee used to play outside a lot, GA would have kept it short. To keep snakes more visible if nothing else.

GA insists he did not put the duct tape on the can, and that there was no duct tape when KC brought it back. He also admits he locked the can back in the shed and nobody touched it until August 1 when LE came to take it. Ashton asks him if he needed to fill up the gas can (since he admits it was empty when returned by KC) and he says he needed to - and in fact reluctantly admits to mowing his lawn a few times - but still insists he would not have been the one to put the tape on because it wasn't done NEATLY enough.

In my mind, he is either accusing LE of putting it on (because nobody broke into the shed) or saying a ghost did it. If LE had to try to process the tape on that can, and lifted it up to see the underside, I can see why it might not be exactly in the same place. But I just don't get GA making a big deal out of it, especially when CA doesn't bother with that story.

LA says that KC and GA are more alike emotionally and behavior-wise. If that's the case, then it may be because when they lie, they just dig in and refuse to admit things. But KC also got her elaborate story-telling tendencies from her mom and her attitude that "lying isn't a crime" (even if you do it during an LE investigation apparently).

AL is gonna have a field day with mitigating circumstances here. It's obvious this whole family doesn't value the truth and thinks nothing of making foolish claims to cover up. I can only imagine the homework excuses KC took to school. I'm sure they were the laugh of the faculty lounge.

I also thought that was strange about the concrete as well. Was it the early Greta interview where they mentioned that? I can't remember the exact source.

 

[Valhall]

I believe this search took place on like the 17th or there abouts of July.

I see cut grass: