2009.08.05 State Deposition of George Anthony

[Patty G]

Finished the depo and still got a bad feeling about George trying desperately to stay away from the duct tape. June 24th is still a problem for me ....

The full slab of concrete being put in when it was is a major "red light" for me.

No surprise about getting money from CBS re: 48 Hours. As of August 5, 2009 Cindy nor George are working.

 

[CBTampa]

Finished the depo and still got a bad feeling about George trying desperately to stay away from the duct tape. June 24th is still a problem for me ....

The full slab of concrete being put in when it was is a major "red light" for me.

No surprise about getting money from CBS re: 48 Hours. As of August 5, 2009 Cindy nor George are working.

I have to agree with you regarding the duct tape connection. I think that is why it was so important to LE to reconnect the duct tape back to the Anthonys by way of the tape showing up on the posters from the command center.

 

[Blaise]

Yeah, seriously. Bein's I got the pleasure of getting hit between the eyes with my son informing, when he was 17 years old, that I was about to become a grandparent, I can assure you that the instantaneous reaction is not that of the clouds rolling apart, a pure white beam of light from God, a dove descending and angelic voices singing Hallelujah.

Et tu, Valhall? Your first reaction is 'oh crap' 'oh no'. and then there is anger. 'If you couldn't be good, why couldnt' you be careful?'

And I'll betcha we're not the only ones on websleuths who've had that particular little scenario play out, and I'll betcha 99% did not have a OH HAPPY DAY!! reaction.

Another one was the 'we must not press KC about the father of the baby 'cause she was PREGNANT. We must treat her with kid gloves.'

Oh, please.

And this is such a common scenario that if you take the 7 degress of separation into account almost all jurors will have had that little moment or know of someone in their family who had that little moment, and it's just one of a million things that are gonna sink KC.

The most offensive thing about this family is their apparent feeling that everyone listening to them is dumb. We're not. And the jurors won't be, either.

THIS DAMNED DOG DON'T HUNT.

Blaise

 

[Reagan]

He really does seem clueless as to the severity of the situation - almost as if he is dense or something.

Another poster mentioned that he may have Alzheimers but I think what he suffers from is selective amnesia.

It's as if something is right in front of him but he is insisting he can't see it even though everyone else in the room can.
I'm going to whisper this; I almost found myself feeling sorry for him at times - maybe CA's been knocking him on the head repeatedly or something. :banghead:

There's nothing wrong with him. It's just because he's a flat out liar. Very weak willed person who has no opinions or thoughts of his own.

He knows it's there, and sees what everyone else sees, but doesn't want to believe it. So he lies, and not very well, and often plays the i'm-dumb-and-dont-remember card.

In the beginning, throughout the LE and FBI interviews, he openly admits... "I don't want to believe I've raised someone who is capable of this."
"I didn't want to believe that smell was my granddaughter.. I still don't want to believe that"..

I'm sure CAs been knocking him around lol but I don't think it has effected his memory one bit. Just his willingness to lie and sell his soul.

 

[ZsaZsa]

The one golden rule I have observed with George is- if he starts a sentence with "As a matter of fact" which he does frequently- everything that follows will be a lie. :croc:

 

[ZsaZsa]

Finished the depo and still got a bad feeling about George trying desperately to stay away from the duct tape. June 24th is still a problem for me ....

The full slab of concrete being put in when it was is a major "red light" for me.

No surprise about getting money from CBS re: 48 Hours. As of August 5, 2009 Cindy nor George are working.

I'm still curious why LE haven't dug all that up to see what's what.

 

[Valhall]

Et tu, Valhall? Your first reaction is 'oh crap' 'oh no'. and then there is anger. 'If you couldn't be good, why couldnt' you be careful?'

And I'll betcha we're not the only ones on websleuths who've had that particular little scenario play out, and I'll betcha 99% did not have a OH HAPPY DAY!! reaction.

Another one was the 'we must not press KC about the father of the baby 'cause she was PREGNANT. We must treat her with kid gloves.'

Oh, please.

And this is such a common scenario that if you take the 7 degress of separation into account almost all jurors will have had that little moment or know of someone in their family who had that little moment, and it's just one of a million things that are gonna sink KC.

The most offensive thing about this family is their apparent feeling that everyone listening to them is dumb. We're not. And the jurors won't be, either.

THIS DAMNED DOG DON'T HUNT.

Blaise

You got that right! Time for a graphic!!!

You know, when you hear that your kid, who hasn't finished school yet (or in KC's case refused to finish school), who hasn't had the opportunity to find their way, who has dreams and goals has just done something that will make EVERYTHING much more difficult in their lives, and bring a baby into an environment that is one of being cared for by immature adolescents...you don't do the happy-pants dance. In fact, it took me several days before I got to the point I could think - I'm going to have a grandbaby! Because I was so upset by what my son had caused for himself and this girl (albeit, she was a willing partner in the decision).

And concerning the father issue. After the initial phone call I had with my son (with the girl on the phone at the same time) and me choosing my words very carefully. It was less than a day before I was talking to him about whether he was sure this was his baby, etc. I can't imagine if my daughter came home and told me she was pregnant and then didn't want to tell me who the father was. There's another dog that won't hunt!!! And I could just see my husband's face if I said to him "honey, don't be asking who the father is because you might upset her".

good...lord.

 

[lizzysf]

G: "I blame myself for her being gone. You know, for months, as a matter of fact, for a year or so I brought stuff up, only to be told not to be negative."

SA: Is that..

G: That has to do with the jobs..


TRANSLATION:
Caylee would not be dead if you would have listened to me for the year before that Casey was heading down a really bad path. This could have been avoided.


His explanation that it is about the jobs makes NO sense at all. It is clear as a bell what he is talking about.


It's about the only worthwhile admission of reality and truth that I have ever heard George make.

 

[cecybeans]

The one golden rule I have observed with George is- if he starts a sentence with "As a matter of fact" which he does frequently- everything that follows will be a lie. :croc:

Good take on that tell. It's a lot like people who start sentences with "Honestly..." or "Frankly..." as if to emphasize they are really actually telling the truth. Probably. Maybe. Most likely.

 

[LambChop]

The sad part that we learned from these depos was that the only person who gave George respect and unconditional love was Caylee. And clearly even now there is no communication in that family. If they sit in court during the trial day after day and hear the evidence they will finally have their truth.

 

[LambChop]

Snip:



I'm 98% certain I know the answer but I don't know the exact psychological terminology. It boils down to this: Although George may have longed to be free of Cindy's relentless domination over the years, he is also emotionally dependent upon it--and upon her--and therefore unable to stay away and build a new life on his own.

You are absolute right. CA has a 3 year degree in nursing, GA has a 4 year degree in Business Administration but it is CA who holds herself up to be the "breadwinner" in the family. With GA's education there is no reason why he should be in security other than getting jobs where his hours would work around CA's. He could have gotten a much better job even if there was some training involved. He was the primary "Nanny", with a security job on the side. Yet CA makes it sound as if he never could hold down a job when clearly his job was to watch the children and there is nothing wrong with that but don't constantly throw it in his face.

 

[cecybeans]

G: "I blame myself for her being gone. You know, for months, as a matter of fact, for a year or so I brought stuff up, only to be told not to be negative."

SA: Is that..

G: That has to do with the jobs..


TRANSLATION:
Caylee would not be dead if you would have listened to me for the year before that Casey was heading down a really bad path. This could have been avoided.


His explanation that it is about the jobs makes NO sense at all. It is clear as a bell what he is talking about.


It's about the only worthwhile admission of reality and truth that I have ever heard George make.

GA is not the most subtle passive-aggressive guy. And there is nothing passive about CA. I am sure that many days in that house play out like the scene at the Ritz where Hoover observed them throwing each other under the bus. Blame anyone and everyone - including the public - except for the person responsible. Their daughter.

She cost them the highlight of their lives. And they are still willing to make excuses for her. At least in public.

That garbage about her not graduating and blaming the school. When my daughter was a teenager, I didn't bother playing the "if you love me you have to believe me" game. That was asking for trouble. I used to tell her "well, you may perfectly well be innocent, but you are not managing that perception well, so it won't matter much to your teachers what happened to your homework". You grow up when you manage your responsbilities AND how people perceive you. And I used to tell her the prisons were full of people who acted like it wasn't their fault, or somebody made them do it. Not gonna fly at home. That's what families are for. To support you, but to not let you get by with being full of it.

If anyone in my family had heard at the dinner table almost any of the whoppers we've heard from these people, they'd still be laughing.

 

[essies]

GA's depo gives great insight into how things worked in the fairytale land of A-ville! It was a matriarchal land, where Cindy was Queen.

George was basically a figurehead

-his role was husband of the queen-but there is no power in that position! Basically his function and Lee's was to support the queen and her princess and not make any waves-just tiptoe around them.

Unlike in England, the princess

(KC) was next in line-not the prince (Lee):cheesehead2:.
Along came the littlest princess! Caylee

was welcomed into family and brought laughter and light for a brief moment in time. But, as Cindy herself so aptly put it in her myspace, JEALOUSY took her away!
Cindy and George are trying desperately to put this fairytale back together! If Cindy hadn't involved the police-I'm sure none of us would have known of Caylee! Cindy would have found a way to clean up, cover up and rationalize what happened and life in the land at Hopesprings Dr. would have carried on while waiting for the next heir to be born! Cindy would have just made sure to not make the same mistake again and pay more ATTENTION next time!!:slap:

 

[Oakley]

Don't know if there is a thread for inconsistencies/contradictions made during this interview and GA's LE interview from 7/31/08. I just listened to that video and found a few. One immediate impression is that GA was clearly far more sincere and cooperative back then. Regarding Casey's pregnancy, he stated in the 7/31/08 interview that she "concealed it from us for a month or 2. And he claims the first thing he did upon learning she was pregnant was cry. The second thing he did was ask "who is the father." During the state deposition, he claimed to find our about the pregnancy in May, IIRC. And he goes on and on about how overjoyed he was upon first hearing the news. He also says he didn't immediately inquire about the identity of the baby's father.

 

[CBTampa]

Don't know if there is a thread for inconsistencies/contradictions made during this interview and GA's LE interview from 7/31/08. I just listened to that video and found a few. One immediate impression is that GA was clearly far more sincere and cooperative back then. Regarding Casey's pregnancy, he stated in the 7/31/08 interview that she "concealed it from us for a month or 2. And he claims the first thing he did upon learning she was pregnant was cry. The second thing he did was ask "who is the father." During the state deposition, he claimed to find our about the pregnancy in May, IIRC. And he goes on and on about how overjoyed he was upon first hearing the news. He also says he didn't immediately inquire about the identity of the baby's father.

IMO These depositions are turning out to be a joke, or they are forgetting a lot of the facts. Make you wonder how GA could have been precise in his description of what Caylee was wearing the last time he saw her.

 

[Imbackon]

I'm thinking that the real reason GA does not like JG is because he represents just one more big lie of Casey's. The lie being who Caylee's daddy is.
Instead of blaming KC for the obvious deception he displaced his anger at poor Jesse.

He wants a man for Casey that is just like Daddy George. Someone who would have just gone along with the program, not question KC and accepted her lie.

 

[tweety933]

I'm thinking that the real reason GA does not like JG is because he represents just one more big lie of Casey's. The lie being who Caylee's daddy is.
Instead of blaming KC for the obvious deception he displaced his anger at poor Jesse.

He wants a man for Casey that is just like Daddy George. Someone who would have just gone along with the program, not question KC and accepted her lie.

I'm sure that the insistence of a DNA test by the Grund's pissed the Anthony's off quite a bit, and that fact in and of itself may be why the Anthony's have so much animosity towards Jesse.

 

[Imbackon]

Question: Do we know for a fact that KC is the bio daughter of GA?

LittleBitty, did anyone have an answer to this question?

 

[CuriousTwo]

I'm sure that the insistence of a DNA test by the Grund's pissed the Anthony's off quite a bit, and that fact in and of itself may be why the Anthony's have so much animosity towards Jesse.

Agree. They want so much for everyone to believe that their lives are perfect. When she got pregnant and they could no longer ignore it and pretend it didn't happen, they thought they had a great "out" of the situation when Jesse wanted to accept responsibility and marry KC. Then, when he turned out to not be the father and KC didn't marry him, they were back to square one.

 

[lizzysf]

Jesse is just on tha A's list because he is believes Casey is guilty. Anyone who is against Casey goes on the list. The only non- list members are the mentally unbalanced and gold-diggers who have latched on... These are the A's "support group" of "friends"..cough cough. Not sure where Holly Gagne falls on the list.. blind loyalty?
Even the A's family members have made it to the list.