2010.03.02 Teresa N-Suspicious Behavior

[bessie]

You know I think the cops and Greta were on to her the whole time. Those questions were not being asked for no reason. It is too bad Greta went all politico.

I love the way Greta says, " You really did hightail it over here. Maaaan...So what time'd ya get over here, about 4:00?" lol

 

[Gracenote]

I may not post much, but I have been here and reading since day 1, and just out of frustration, I have to say that NO WAY, ON GODS GREEN EARTH, that a grandma would praise the caregiver in charge of her grandchild if that grandbaby was abducted, especially if the caregiver/girlfriend was only a teenager and only in the picture for 5 months, and especially if that caregiver had a questionable reputation, to put it nicely. That initial praise of MC by TN, which has since been redacted, is nonsense. Anyone can see right thru that. Sorry, I am frustrated like the rest, and I am grandma of a grandaughter of the same age.

Especially after only 6 months. If they had been together for years, had a track record to refer to where Misty took great care of the kids, showed great character and values, the relationship was solid and stable, etc, one might stand up for her and say one trusts her. But this was a virtual stranger and one who had shown herself to be, well, you know how she is.

 

[LoveEndsWar]

Especially after only 6 months. If they had been together for years, had a track record to refer to where Misty took great care of the kids, showed great character and values, the relationship was solid and stable, etc, one might stand up for her and say one trusts her. But this was a virtual stranger and one who had shown herself to be, well, you know how she is.

I'm not trying to be funny but now in hindsight maybe MC was sooooo great because she was getting her (TN) pills... Like we have noted RC isn't a real social seeming guy, MC probably hooked him up with all of his connections.

 

[lauriej]

In this video Misty says she got her phone and called Ron then called 911.

..and yet in this video: ( approx. 4 minute mark)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-z6jX8Xvmc&feature=youtube_gdata

..ron says he pulled in ( home), misty was at the front door, and he wondered why she was even up ?since usually all 3 are asleep when he gets home.

..somethings up with this entire family, their stories and statements change constantly -----TN included.

..in fact TN's favourite thing-----when asked a question she doesn't want to deal with-----she goes into this big "sniffling, quivering voice,contorted face thing--------but she's NOT crying, just looking like the "poor me grandma"...it's ridiculous.

 

[txsvicki]

Is the distance Teresa drove that night really 10-15 miles? I thought people were saying she drove 80 miles. She could very easily drive 10-15 miles in a short time. It was after 3:30 a.m. with less traffic. She probably ran lights and stop signs while speeding. I drive 10-12 miles with traffic, lights, and stop signs all the time in less than 15 minutes.

 

[lauriej]

If my son called at 3am and said my grandson was missing, my first thought would be, boy I better go help find him, he may have got up and is walking around out in the woods, or went to the neighbors, no reason to get excited. We will find him in a few minutes. Never would I think LE will need a big picture. Why with such finality?
The thought of a big photo would only come after we were satisfied he was not in the area. Like 2 hours later! HMMM

..EXACTLY! THAT is the # 1 "bombshell!!!" ( as NG would say).

..many posters have mentioned the big 8X10 of haleigh that TN brought with her immediatly.

..for one thing, she was called at 3:30 ( or so ) in the morning! even if she DID believe ( later, when she had a chance to fully wake up ) that it was an abduction--------there was NO possible reason for her to bring the 8X10 right then.

..given, that she knew, and she DID know, all of the comings and goings of the 'cast of characters' surrounding MC , RC and the MH------in fact, she even knew that MC had no real desire to "babysit" ( these "children "dear to her heart", as MC now says) that night.

..when RC called her, with her KNOWLEDGE of what had happened earlier---MC's "binge" , not wanting to babysit etc etc------if i were her, i would have thought:

.. " OMG, WTH happened there tonight ? did MC decide NOT to watch the kids?-------and dumped them off over at _____________( fill in a NUMBER of places )?

..there would be NO way that i would have thought haleigh was "missing" to the point that, at 4 in the morning, i would have brought along the 8X10 .

..just like cindy anthony, she OVERthought the K.I.S.S. principle.

 

[KBL100]

In a previous post, I referred to TN’s comments about the speed at which she drove to Ronald’s house on Tuesday morning and today I found the interview I was referring to with Greta dated Feb 27/09, Part 2.

Starting at the 4:52 minute mark, TN said she lived approximately 12-15 miles from Ronald’s and she drove well above the speed limit to arrive in 5 minutes. GVS asked TN what time she arrived and TN said Ronald called her while Misty was on the phone with 911 and it sounds like TN said she arrived at 3:30 am. TN went onto say, “I was well over the speed limit that’s for sure, but I just felt that if they got behind me, there will be more people here when we got here”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9RFRjiHIXE

TN made the comment that she thought Haleigh was "probably hiding under the bed or something." Are there other beds in the house we didn't see photos/videos of? The only "beds" I remember seeing were mattresses on the floor and Haleigh's toddler bed without the mattress (which was in another room). And if TN thought Haleigh was hiding (at 3 something AM?) why would she think to grab the 8x10 picture? And why even take a picture to the residence...I mean didn't she think Ron could provide LE with a picture of his own daughter????? :waitasec:

 

[snookie]

TN made the comment that she thought Haleigh was "probably hiding under the bed or something." Are there other beds in the house we didn't see photos/videos of? The only "beds" I remember seeing were mattresses on the floor and Haleigh's toddler bed without the mattress (which was in another room). And if TN thought Haleigh was hiding (at 3 something AM?) why would she think to grab the 8x10 picture? And why even take a picture to the residence...I mean didn't she think Ron could provide LE with a picture of his own daughter????? :waitasec:

The bold is what's so puzzling to me.

Some people really might think to grab a picture to show police, but why would she need to bring her own? Perhaps all those pictures we saw hanging on the walls in Ron's mobile home tour video weren't there until after she and Granny Sykes came in to clean up.

 

[azwriter]

It's good to see a thread on TN's past and present actions.
You all know me here. And my past career as a newspaper reporter. I wanted to add my reactions to TN's and Ron's early comments to the media.
Certainly when you're gathering the backstory and information on a missing child, you want to speak to the parents or the immediate people who last saw the child. Normally you hear from the parents who absolutely want the public to know the particulars about the child: What was the child wearing when they were last seen; their physical description; any odd or uncommon things about the child. Even their nicknames. Although, we were told about Haleigh's birthmarks.
However, Ron and TN did not express those things that I recall. If Ron was asked to address the public about his child, he spoke directly to Haleigh to tell her he loved her and wanted her to come home. I did not hear a lot of pleas directed to the public to find Haleigh. Of course, he was at werk and didn't know what she was wearing when she went missing. However, I believe any parent would have made it a priority to know what their child was wearing when they went missing. I missed that in Ron's comments to the public. I felt as if he breezed over involving the public in helping to find his missing child.
If I were speaking to TN and she began to praise Misty, it would have certainly raised my eyebrows and curosity. I would want to first know why she was putting Misty in such a favorable light. What was TN's agenda.
I surely would have asked TN, after she was praising Misty's child care skills, just why was she focused on comments about Misty being such a great caregiver. Even GGM Sykes, praised Misty's care of Haleigh.
In my mind, I would have immediately considered there was some type of pact made with Misty to keep the heat off her in exchange for her sticking with a particular story. It was and still is odd that TN took the position to defend Misty so readily. Especially now, a year later with Ron in jail, TN has changed her tune about Misty. There is something very fishy now about TN's former defense of Misty.
TN was a ready made interview. IMO she was always available. Why? To find Haleigh? Or was her dialog more involved to tell the public of Ron's grief and Misty's sparkling child care abilities?
Did she strive to make it appear her son was not involved in his daughter's disappearance? I think she did. She certainly made it a habit of bringing God into the outcome of finding Haeligh.
And no, I did not consider her tears and sobs to be real.
I have to say that not all of what the reporter would ask of TN and Ron would make it on the air or in print. Legal issues, involving malice and slanting the story, would make an editor think twice about what made it to the public consumption about the case.
But those questions about their comments would make for clairfication for future questions.
For what it's worth, I would have smell a potential cover-up. But, I no longer report. I just come to WS to view what the posters here uncover about this case. And we have some very good sleuths here!

 

[Daisy47]

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..there would be NO way that i would have thought haleigh was "missing" to the point that, at 4 in the morning, i would have brought along the 8X10 .

've kinda let TN off the hook with regard to the photo. I was talking to one of my sisters about it whose husband is LE. She said she would have known to grab a photo if it was hanging on the wall, readily available as she's running out the door. According to my brother-in-law, a photo is one of the first things LE will ask for. Getting the missing person's image out to other LE agencies and the general public as quickly as possible is a crucial step in the process. BUT, TN has plenty enough other red flags for me, even disregarding the bringing of the photo. There's definitely something off in her support and praise of Misty....and the tape recording, the driving time, the "snake", the visit to RC in jail and her odd demeanor, her complete and TOTAL BS about RC being the one to bring MC in.....still LMAO at that one, probably cos of Papa's video in the "Off-Topic" thread that I don't know how to link to but wish I did.....:waitasec:

All the above is JMO

 

[snookie]

TN was a ready made interview. IMO she was always available. Why? To find Haleigh? Or was her dialog more involved to tell the public of Ron's grief and Misty's sparkling child care abilities?
Did she strive to make it appear her son was not involved in his daughter's disappearance? I think she did. She certainly made it a habit of bringing God into the outcome of finding Haeligh.

(respectfully snipped)

Great post, azwriter!

Reminds me of the vigil video. TN made it all about Ron, like it was his vigil.

 

[lauriej]

snipped for space....

've kinda let TN off the hook with regard to the photo. I was talking to one of my sisters about it whose husband is LE. She said she would have known to grab a photo if it was hanging on the wall, readily available as she's running out the door. According to my brother-in-law, a photo is one of the first things LE will ask for. Getting the missing person's image out to other LE agencies and the general public as quickly as possible is a crucial step in the process.

..i agree completely, getting a picture out there.----------WHEN there is definitely a missing person.

..----when RC calls her--(TN)--at 3:30 in the morning "haleigh's missing!" , one of 2 things would occur:

1). she would be so distraught that she would arrive in her pj's/nightgown. ( without thinking to grab the 8X10).

2). she would be thinking back to the previous night-----MC not even wanting to watch the kids, coming off her 3 day binge, the 'comings and goings' AT the MH always.....etc etc.............and thinking...for god's sake , she's not MISSING--she's at so and so's ? again, showing up, but definitely not with the 8X10.

..many previous posters have her living QUITE a distance from RC's----yet she got there A.S.A.P.--( within minutes!) ---WITH the 8X10 in hand...

..there were SO many discrepancies from minute ONE, with everyone!--

..misty: " i called ron------then called 911".

..ron: " i got home, misty was at the front door------i wondered what she was doing up at that hour ??" ( ummmmm...she had called you-haleigh is gone?)

..misty was apparently calling 911 FROM ron's cellphone--( he's heard screaming in the background to give it back to him ) ----yet TN says that ron called her FROM his cell WHILE MC was calling 911...( huh? )

..Daisy----i agree that a photo is most definitely what LE will ask for ----------could you ask your brother in law---------how many people show up ---right off the bat---at 4 in the morning-------WITH the picture ( that LE is GOING to be asking for ?)

 

[Donjeta]

I suppose one could argue that as a former dispatcher, TN was well aware of the procedure in missing child cases and that's how she thought of taking the photo. I just don't understand why LE wouldn't have already taken one of Ron's pictures in the MH.

 

[lauriej]

..a former dispatcher or not-------at 4 a.m.------even IF she believed haleigh to be truly "missing" -( and , if she was thinking THAT clearly, she'd also have to be factoring in the cast of characters coming ang going from the MH)----who would think to bring along the 8X10?

..LE didn't need to ask RC for a picture--------TN got there within minutes of their arrival, with hers , conveniently, in hand.

 

[Concerned Papa]

..a former dispatcher or not-------at 4 a.m.------even IF she believed haleigh to be truly "missing" -( and , if she was thinking THAT clearly, she'd also have to be factoring in the cast of characters coming ang going from the MH)----who would think to bring along the 8X10?

..LE didn't need to ask RC for a picture--------TN got there within minutes of their arrival, with hers , conveniently, in hand.

IMO, TN brought this picture for essentially the same reason RC went out of his way to stop for beer, cigarettes, and p-nuts at a store that just happened to have video surveillance.

Since walk thru videos clearly showed pictures of Haleigh all over the walls in the living room, if Teresa brought her own, it would tend to distance herself from having been there earlier that evening by making it appear she didn't know about the pictures and was only trying to help like her "LE jacket" experience had taught her.

IOW, the picture was her alibi.

 

[Donjeta]

IMO, TN brought this picture for essentially the same reason RC went out of his way to stop for beer, cigarettes, and p-nuts at a store that just happened to have video surveillance.

Since walk thru videos clearly showed pictures of Haleigh all over the walls in the living room, if Teresa brought her own, it would tend to distance herself from having been there earlier that evening by making it appear she didn't know about the pictures and was only trying to help like her "LE jacket" experience had taught her.

IOW, the picture was her alibi.

I don't know about that... That would make sense if she'd otherwise distanced herself from Ron and his family but she didn't, she made plenty of statements about how the kids were so well cared for by Ron and Misty, and implied that she had been a close observer of Ron's family life to know that. Supposing Ron and Misty didn't get all those pictures on Monday 9th of February she would have known that they were there from her previous visits even if she'd been elsewhere on that day.

If it was an alibi it might have been meant to convey, "Look, I brought this picture with me, so it means that I must have been at home when Ron called, doesn't it?" If in fact she was somewhere else than her house. The reasoning being that she would likely keep an 8x10 photograph on the wall in her home and not with her at other times. But that would require forethought and planning (to have the picture ready in her car) and wouldn't apply to an improvised coverup, except maybe if TN came from Annette's at Welaka and actually grabbed one of Annette's pictures of Haleigh.

I don't know. IMO the photograph might be just a part of the "concerned grandmother who has LE ties" decor.

And also, if she knew that Ron and/or Misty hurt Haleigh, bringing the photograph would be a way to try to influence LE into the stranger abduction frame of mind. You only need a photograph to find a child who was abducted and is still alive and moving about with strangers. Whereas if your relatives have chucked her lifeless body in a dumpster, a photograph is probably useless by the time she is found, and LE tends to pick up any bodies they find at landfills anyway, regardless of whether they maybe used to look like someone they're searching for, before decomposing. (Sorry for being so graphic. )

 

[ilovemew]

She says herself in the interview with Greta that she thought Haleigh was probably hiding under the bed. Even if we could explain the time discrepancies, that photo is the clincher for me. Seems someone over-rehearsed her big entrance.

Don't forget that all the beds were mattresses directly on the floor. There was no "under the bed" to hide in!

ETA: shoulda read on in the thread. this was posted already by several others. Sorry!

 

[Concerned Papa]

I don't know about that... That would make sense if she'd otherwise distanced herself from Ron and his family but she didn't, she made plenty of statements about how the kids were so well cared for by Ron and Misty, and implied that she had been a close observer of Ron's family life to know that. Supposing Ron and Misty didn't get all those pictures on Monday 9th of February she would have known that they were there from her previous visits even if she'd been elsewhere on that day.

If it was an alibi it might have been meant to convey, "Look, I brought this picture with me, so it means that I must have been at home when Ron called, doesn't it?" If in fact she was somewhere else than her house. The reasoning being that she would likely keep an 8x10 photograph on the wall in her home and not with her at other times. But that would require forethought and planning (to have the picture ready in her car) and wouldn't apply to an improvised coverup, except maybe if TN came from Annette's at Welaka and actually grabbed one of Annette's pictures of Haleigh.

I don't know. IMO the photograph might be just a part of the "concerned grandmother who has LE ties" decor.

And also, if she knew that Ron and/or Misty hurt Haleigh, bringing the photograph would be a way to try to influence LE into the stranger abduction frame of mind. You only need a photograph to find a child who was abducted and is still alive and moving about with strangers. Whereas if your relatives have chucked her lifeless body in a dumpster, a photograph is probably useless by the time she is found, and LE tends to pick up any bodies they find at landfills anyway, regardless of whether they maybe used to look like someone they're searching for, before decomposing. (Sorry for being so graphic. )

LOL, I like your analysis better than mine. I've never had much luck figuring out a scheming female anyway. Thanks for your input.

 

[bessie]

There is something very fishy now about TN's former defense of Misty.
TN was a ready made interview. IMO she was always available. Why? To find Haleigh? Or was her dialog more involved to tell the public of Ron's grief and Misty's sparkling child care abilities?
Did she strive to make it appear her son was not involved in his daughter's disappearance? I think she did. She certainly made it a habit of bringing God into the outcome of finding Haeligh.

I give you two thumb up on this post, AZWriter (in my head I always read that as EZRider :waitasec. If Ron doesn't come across as the golden boy it's not for lack of effort on his mother's part. As for TN singing Misty's praises, I'm sure she was loathe to do it, but she needed Misty to complete the portrait of an upstanding, law abiding and loving, young single father and the innocent young woman who became his childbride. The goal was to avoid placing Misty under the microscope because any dirt found on Misty would reflect back on Ron and open him up to scrutiny. The wedding, the heirloom ring, pfft...all part of her strategy. It worked pretty well for awhile until NayNay spilled the beans to AH about WBG and Misty's big adventure. As those details emerged, naturally she and the family had to turn coat. Other factors led to the split, of course, but that was the major one, imo. At any rate, try as she might, TN could not keep the house of cards from falling.

 

[SoSueMe]

You are right, Who does that? Someone who is frantically trying to cover something up. I can not think of any reason Teresa would record what LE were discussing. How on earth could this action help find Haleigh? The only reason I can think of is if she is trying to find out if LE are suspecting and discussing Ron's involvement in Haleigh's disappearance. She is either protecting Ron or protecting herself. But, yes, this was a very suspicious action taken by Teresa Neves.

Who secretly records a LE interview? Maybe someone who wants to remember what they told LE during that interview. Of course, if you tell the truth, there is no need to recall it later.

It also makes a record of the "official" story, the timeline, etc., for others who may have to give interviews to LE. They all need to stick to the same story. ~JMO~