2010.04.13 - What's going on in Tennessee? Joe talks to the media

I suspect he does know something, but I doubt he murdered Haleigh like Tommy and Misty are claiming..
He and his attorney are not denying a fight over the gun either like Ron C has..
Maybe LE has asked him not to comment.. He did say he would like to but he couldn't..JMO

I think that the parading of Misty out to the search site and driving her to St. John's (or was it Putnam??) is an attempt to make "someone" think she is really talking. I do not know who that someone is.
 
Cynic that I am.....why do I believe him? :waitasec:

But, I want to know where he was that night....
LOL I'm either the world's biggest cynic or the world's biggest dupe. I've felt like both while following this case. I think he's telling the truth when he says he didn't hurt Haleigh, but I'm not giving him a complete pass. He knows something, but I can't buy Misty's story about him stealing Haleigh because he couldn't find the gun or the implication that Tommy and/or Joe molested Haleigh.
 
What I cannot for the life of me understand, is why, if looking for a gun and being unable to find it, you would take a child instead? I don't get the concept of stealing a CHILD for revenge. Drugs, money, physical possesions I get; but a child?!?

It doesn't sound right, because in my opinion, it didn't happen this way. Just doesn't make sense, so probably it isn't the way it went...
 
I find it odd that Tommy calls his grandmother with the story and soon after Misty calls her. I also find it odd that Hank Sr. said that Joe stayed with them, and they mention the area near Magnolia. Joe was staying at Timmy and Chelsea's house. I don't know where that would be though, if it's the same location or not. Plus Hank Sr. was in the hospital at this time so he would no know much from Feb 9-10, 2009 unless told. I did get an ire feeling while watching Joe in the interview and found his reactions interesting when the reporter mentioned his grandmother. I just don't know what to believe. It saddens me that LE is now saying nothing of interest has been found and brings back bad memories of the Mondex search.

BBM
Yes! I just didn't know where to post it, but that is much more than odd. Clearly it was planned. Which makes me wonder...Why?
 
We are not dealing with mental giants here-Some have a hard time reading, one carries a calculator to a drug deal, one doesnt know 10% of 50,000 and on and on.. I think they found the easy target (joe) and went with it. I think IMO IMO Joe told what he knows right away, the kid was hanging flyers FGS, why would he put a knife to Mistys throat and she is hanging flyers with him??? Why would she spend weeks at Grandmas house in Tennessee if she was deathly afraid? Nope, once again, not buying it. I know Joe is no angel, but at this juncture, I actually feel sorry for the kid..
 
Not per LE, but per the reporter. Now it is also being reported that grandma feels Joe has changed since he came back from FL a few days after Haleigh went missing. (So, ..he did not leave the same day as the Croslin's have said, he left a few days after.)

I just don't know what to believe. If true he came back a changed person then maybe he was there when what ever happen to Haleigh happen, helped dispose of her, was told what happen, or knew they were going to try and pin this on him and he is scared to death.

Right now it just looks as if Misty, Ron, Tommy, and Joe all took part in something. IMO. I go back and forth with Joe because I could not understand why he would just take Haleigh and kill her over a gun as Misty and Tommy are saying. Just does not make sense. Even though, none of the cases regarding murdered children make sense.
I really had my hopes up that this time around LE would finally have an answer to what happen to Haleigh, but the way there is much mis-reporting and finger pointing I am lost. I don't know what to think or believe at this point.

BBM
Or maybe he is upset by his close brush with the disappearance of a child. He saw her around, then there was the awful night she left, horrible afterwards, then the family tried to blame him. Maybe he cares that a little child is gone and he knows who did it.

I don't actually believe what I just wrote but it is possible that Jo has a soul, unlike some of the other players. I would like to think that someone does.
 
Maybe he was at a hotel at a party and there is surveillance...
Maybe he was at Huddle House and there were cameras
I'll bet he has a solid alibi. I mean rock solid, or PCSO would have been on him hard!
No, they worked to set up Haleighs FATHER and Misty!
Wild, isnt it?
 
Sorry if it was discussed but did anyone think it was weird how he kept blinking all fast?

This article about him a changed boy...well whoa.

I thought his interview of "Oh if I knew I would call the cops" was him trying to look gangster. As in he aint calling no cops.

If there was a fight maybe it was over what MC told Ron about JO molesting her .. well what if it was JO mentality to retaliate about the accusation by making a little girl go missing?

I just feel so sick to my stomach with anticipation for someone the one responsible to pay for this. I think Im getting an ulcer!

The atricle about him being all calmed down is either true because he has like some kind of PTSD or to keep a low profile.
 
What I cannot for the life of me understand, is why, if looking for a gun and being unable to find it, you would take a child instead? I don't get the concept of stealing a CHILD for revenge. Drugs, money, physical possesions I get; but a child?!?
It doesn't make a bit of sense. If this was the truth, Ron would have been screaming, to the world, that he knows who did this and he knows why. He wasn't mentioning Joe or any gun issue.
 
Sorry if it was discussed but did anyone think it was weird how he kept blinking all fast?

This article about him a changed boy...well whoa.

I thought his interview of "Oh if I knew I would call the cops" was him trying to look gangster. As in he aint calling no cops.

If there was a fight maybe it was over what MC told Ron about JO molesting her .. well what if it was JO mentality to retaliate about the accusation by making a little girl go missing?

I just feel so sick to my stomach with anticipation for someone the one responsible to pay for this. I think Im getting an ulcer!

The atricle about him being all calmed down is either true because he has like some kind of PTSD or to keep a low profile.

BBM. Misty is a liar and Ron would not have let JO live.
 
We are not dealing with mental giants here-Some have a hard time reading, one carries a calculator to a drug deal, one doesnt know 10% of 50,000 and on and on.. I think they found the easy target (joe) and went with it. I think IMO IMO Joe told what he knows right away, the kid was hanging flyers FGS, why would he put a knife to Mistys throat and she is hanging flyers with him??? Why would she spend weeks at Grandmas house in Tennessee if she was deathly afraid? Nope, once again, not buying it. I know Joe is no angel, but at this juncture, I actually feel sorry for the kid..

BBM
Kel, that was hilarious! :laugh::biglaugh::laughbig::floorlaugh:
 
It doesn't make a bit of sense. If this was the truth, Ron would have been screaming, to the world, that he knows who did this and he knows why. He wasn't mentioning Joe or any gun issue.

In a way, he did exactly that in the 911 call when he ranted about killing the person who stole his daughter. He didn't drop a name, but he sure seemed to have a specific person in mind. Either he had reason to believe someone would want to hurt Haleigh, which begs the question, why?; or, he wanted to give the impression he knew who hurt Haleigh. Maybe that was the beginning of the set up to make Joe the fall guy. He dummied up afterward and denied the fight over the gun, etc., etc., when he realized talking about it would raise more questions than he was willing to answer. All I know is that whenever I ponder Ron's involvement, I always go back to the 911 call.
 
I agree with everyone who says it doesn't make sense that Joe would take Haleigh. Why on Earth would he want to kill Haleigh? He's not a pedophile so there's no point.

If he wanted revenge, he would have taken property, guns, money, etc.
 
On JAX news at noon today the reporter said that Jennifer Bauer has a Facebook page with videos and reports from Tenn. I'm not on FB so was wondering if anyone else has looked. They said it was under Jen Bauer.
 
I have always questioned this fight between Joe and Ronald. Misty was gone up until that Sunday before she went missing. I think Nay Nay dropped her off at her brothers house around 4AM. I really would like to know the real date/time of this fight. They say days...IMO, it was the same day and that is when this tragedy started. LE has the cell pings for all the players I assume and that should clear up some of the lies that are being told.
Can't wait for the real discovery to come out..when ever someone gets charged that is.

"Snip" http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpps/ne...-in-haleigh-cummings-case-fc-20100415_7078681
Video Report with snips of interview at link above.
April 15, 2010

For the first time, we're hearing from the man police have questioned several times about Haleigh's disappearance.
Joe Overstreet lives in Tennessee, he was in Florida when Haleigh
disappeared. Joe O. is speaking out about the allegations that he was involved in Haleigh's disappearance.

"Disgusted. I don't know. I can't say nothing about it. I want to say something, but I don’t know what to say," said Overstreet.

Overstreet's grandmother is the one who called deputies after Tommy Croslin called her from the St. Johns County Jail on Sunday and told her that Joe Overstreet took Haleigh from her home.


Investigators say Haleigh's dad Ronald Cummings and Overstreet got into a fight over a gun just days before Haleigh disappeared. That tip led investigators to search the Saint Johns River in Putnam County. Divers are back in the river today, for the 3rd day in a row.

Source: MyFox Orlando
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/041510-Haleigh-Cummings





"Snip" http://www.artharris.com/2010/04/14/exclusive-will-river-yield-haleigh-cummings-clues/

By Art Harris

Both Misty Croslin in letters to family we reported here, and now, Tommy Croslin, have implicated their cousin as the kidnapper. The motive, they claim, is revenge against father Ronald Cummings who humiliated him in front of family after he suspected Joe had stolen a pistol Chelsea Croslin says she and Misty recovered searching near the house.

It was a week later, though, during another visit to Ronald Cummings' trailer to steal another weapon, that Misty Croslin has claimed Joe and Tommy both searched the house, and when they couldn't find the weapon, her brother left alone, and cousin Joe snatched Haleigh.

However, Misty has flunked several polygraphs, and sources tell me Tommy's recent failed test lead him confess he'd not only been there, but accompanied Joe to the river bank where the body was dump.

It was Tommy Croslin, sources tell me, who played the tipster in leading investigators to the spot where they are now searching.
 
There was a discrepancy over whether it was Misty hanging fliers in the store with Jo Tuesday morning. Here is what Jo said in his interview:

"Went to the Hospital to see his uncle…. got with Misty’s mom and went to the jail because she was being questioned, we left from the jail….she couldn’t go back down that road so me and her stayed up by the store and put fliers up. Then Jo left Satsuma with the girl he came with. "

Was Jo hanging flies with Lisa not Misty?

ETA: IIRC Misty said her mother drove her to the jail for an interview and Jo, who was in the car, panicked and took off. Anyone remember her saying this. Well, it's not true according to Jo.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video...ppearance/50619441001/50624658001/78178247001
 
BBM. Misty is a liar and Ron would not have let JO live.

Agree.

When I was a teen I had a distant acquaintance. At some point he began acting strange, He got quiet, looked sick, withdrew. After a few days, to everyone's shock, he went to the police and told them that his older brother had come to him one night and told him that he had killed a guy. He got my acquaintance to help him drag the body to the woods, dig a hole and bury him. It ate him up inside until he went to the police and it still ate him up because he had turned in his brother.

I wonder if Jo was involved in something that haunts him. And he is conflicted about what to do. And scared.

And to change the subject a notch, once Misty was comfortably ensconced in the Cummings household with Ron and GGM she would not have been afraid of Jo's knife. Shoot, she even got an RO against her own brother, she wasn't scared.

I think this new story is BS.
 
Misty Croslin Cousin Questioned in Haleigh Cummings Case
Updated: Thursday, 15 Apr 2010, 9:35 AM MDT
Published : Thursday, 15 Apr 2010, 6:23 AM MDT

MyFox Orlando Report

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35) - The search for missing Putnam County girl Haleigh Cummings continues. For the first time, we're hearing from the man police have questioned several times about her disappearance.

Investigators have intensified their search for the little girl in the past couple of days.
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpps/ne...-in-haleigh-cummings-case-fc-20100415_7078681


Video to the left, JO and grandma Holla speak...
 

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