2010.06.09 Prosecutors File for 911 Calls to Come into Trial

[Dignity4Victims]

That is just it. You hit the nail on the head. It is unthinkable, and unlikely IMO If a jury is to believe such a far fetched story as this, the State better have some real solid evidence. IMO Sorry to be off topic, but I find what you said to be very important and probably going to be in the closing statements. IMO

Uh, that's exactly what murdering mothers do - the unthinkable.

In addition to the lengthy list that has been provided for you, you can add Diane Downs to that list. She actually packed her children up 'for a drive' and turned around and shot them all in the car at point-blank range.

Can you imagine shooting your own child and watching them die?

The glaring thing about Casey's case is that Cindy's 911 calls stating the car smelled like a dead body, wasn't really the beginning of her being saturated in guilt. Cindy's myspace letter is going to bury Casey alive, as well as statements from Casey's friends pertaining to the driving hate and jealousy Casey had for Cindy. That completely shoots down the poor excuse Cindy has given many times that "if Casey didn't want Caylee anymore, she would have given her to me." Not so much!

 

[LindseyLou]

I believe the State has solid evidence against ICA. Just look at the motions the defense wants tossed, it speaks volumes. The 911 calls, the car, the jail visitor list, GA's grand jury testimony, and the past felony offenses just to name a few. JP denied mostly all of the defense motions for a reason they are all pieces of the puzzle the jury will hear. In the closing statement from the prosecution the puzzle will be complete, and the jurors will announce their verdict. IMO The verdict will be guilty of murder in the first degree. Perhaps when GA, CA, and LA hear the verdict they can finally accept the fact that ICA killed their beautiful Caylee, and try to heal.

Unlikely that they ever will admit to that...they will be on a mission to prove her innocence - by going on more TV interviews to fabricate more stories to try and veer people away from the facts that build up to her guilt.

 

[TorisMom003]

A while back I was doing some research on mothers who kill their children. NTS had asked if there had ever been a case of a mother killing her child, driving around with the corpse and then handling the child's body when it had begun to decompose (my paraphrase of the original question). During that search I came across a very interesting diagram that I did not save and now wish that I had since I can no longer find it. However, I do still have some interesting figures that I discovered. For anyone that finds it hard to believe that a mother can kill her children it is an eye opener. There are some things in the article that I do not agree with completely, such as the reasons behind mothers killing their children. Anyway I am including one of the quotes from the article and a link to the article itself.

More than 200 women kill their children in the US every year, according to a recent study by the American Anthropological Association.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/14935/why_some_mothers_kill_their_children.html

 

[Cat13067]

WOW, that is just horrible. Do you think the charges tend to be different for a mother killing her newborn girl vs. a 2 year old girl? just wondering...
Sorry, I seem to be the queen of Off-Topic Discussions - just tell me to snap out of it and I'll stop. I have an over active imagination. LOL

Interesting post, Lindsey. I think murder is murder, however killing a newborn baby might be easier for jurors to recommend manslaughter due to PPD. I think the jury might look at the past behavior of the new born baby's mother, and see if this mother has a history of mental problems that are documented by a doctor. Tough call!

 

[Cat13067]

Unlikely that they ever will admit to that...they will be on a mission to prove her innocence - by going on more TV interviews to fabricate more stories to try and veer people away from the facts that build up to her guilt.

That would be sad to see them on any media outlet defending ICA. Makes me believe if they would do that it's just for the money. Very sad situation if they take that road. They should ask themselves can't we let Caylee rest in peace.

 

[Dignity4Victims]

That would be sad to see them on any media outlet defending ICA. Makes me believe if they would do that it's just for the money. Very sad situation if they take that road. They should ask themselves can't we let Caylee rest in peace.

What a profound statement! So horribly sad, but so true.

But George and Cindy haven't let Caylee rest in peace since Casey murdered her, and I certainly don't expect them to start once Casey is convicted. That's when the dollar signs will really ring up in their eyes, peddling Casey's sob story of "the wrongly convicted victim". They do enjoy the victim role.

 

[notthatsmart]

Yes!



On July 23, 2008, Amy told LE that Cindy had told her "the car smelled like something had died." The 911 call was released on July 24, 2008.

Saying that the car smelled like something had died is nothing like saying it smells like a dead body was in the car.IMO Amy was aware of this through a text that Kc sent to her on the 27th.IMO I find that statement of it smells like something died to be generic and used commonly. IMO Like a figure of speech. IMO

 

[marspiter]

WOW, that is just horrible. Do you think the charges tend to be different for a mother killing her newborn girl vs. a 2 year old girl? just wondering...
Sorry, I seem to be the queen of Off-Topic Discussions - just tell me to snap out of it and I'll stop. I have an over active imagination. LOL

In the particular case I cited she actually would have been charged with 1st degree murder but after she was "caught" she pretty much started asking for a plea from the get go. The SA had a very strong case as they pretty much had her dead bang even with out the confession, but before she started talking to others and investigators about her suspicions on who the mother was LE had absolutely nothing to go on. It was a complete dead end and if she would have kept quite the case would still be unsolved.

She got a plea for her confession and because I think the community was divided in terms of sympathy.

 

[Dignity4Victims]

Saying that the car smelled like something had died is nothing like saying it smells like a dead body was in the car.IMO Amy was aware of this through a text that Kc sent to her on the 27th.IMO I find that statement of it smells like something died to be generic and used commonly. IMO Like a figure of speech. IMO

Caylee certainly doesn't consider it a figure of speech.

 

[LindseyLou]

Saying that the car smelled like something had died is nothing like saying it smells like a dead body was in the car.IMO Amy was aware of this through a text that Kc sent to her on the 27th.IMO I find that statement of it smells like something died to be generic and used commonly. IMO Like a figure of speech. IMO

It was probably her way of downplaying the harshness of the fact that the car smelled like a dead body...saying it smells like something dead makes it not sound as bad.

 

[LindseyLou]

In the particular case I cited she actually would have been charged with 1st degree murder but after she was "caught" she pretty much started asking for a plea from the get go. The SA had a very strong case as they pretty much had her dead bang even with out the confession, but before she started talking to others and investigators about her suspicions on who the mother was LE had absolutely nothing to go on. It was a complete dead end and if she would have kept quite the case would still be unsolved.

She got a plea for her confession and because I think the community was divided in terms of sympathy.

That's very interesting - I thought that as well...she would have probably totally gotten away with it if she hadn't brought herself into the investigation.

One thing I am curious about right at this moment - if the Anthonys truly believe that someone kidnapped and murdered their granddaughter in this whole plot to threaten their lives and whatever else she's fabricated to them, AND she was supposedly looking on her own for Caylee (apparently out at night clubs) and afraid to say anything fearing for the lives of her family....how do they explain the car smelling like a dead body?????

Also, wouldn't the fact that she has fabricated this Zanny the Nanny person for years make it easier for the State to prove that this was premeditated murder? ...like she was setting the stage for the final event. ???

 

[magnolia]

Saying that the car smelled like something had died is nothing like saying it smells like a dead body was in the car.IMO Amy was aware of this through a text that Kc sent to her on the 27th.IMO I find that statement of it smells like something died to be generic and used commonly. IMO Like a figure of speech. IMO

Do you think GA's statements about the smell were generic,used commonly,and like a figure of speech??

 

[Schmerty_Jones]

It gives me the most frightened & despairing feeling ,CA embellishing lies
& diminishing the horror of what happened to someone you cherished. Your own flesh & blood ,the hugs , smiles ,the kisses. I feel physically ill. Now they treat Caylee as if she was a bug that crawled across their floor&got squashed,not a glorious beam of sunshine, of love, beauty & purity. What a memorial!!!!

 

[Baxter]

Yes!



On July 23, 2008, Amy told LE that Cindy had told her "the car smelled like something had died." The 911 call was released on July 24, 2008.

Saying that the car smelled like something had died is nothing like saying it smells like a dead body was in the car.IMO Amy was aware of this through a text that Kc sent to her on the 27th.IMO I find that statement of it smells like something died to be generic and used commonly. IMO Like a figure of speech. IMO

AZlawyer said Cindy and Amy not Kc and Amy.

 

[marspiter]

Saying that the car smelled like something had died is nothing like saying it smells like a dead body was in the car.IMO Amy was aware of this through a text that Kc sent to her on the 27th.IMO I find that statement of it smells like something died to be generic and used commonly. IMO Like a figure of speech. IMO

Yes that is actually a common expression. My wife commonly expresses "OMG it smells like something died in here" with in an our or so of chili dinner night.

However that common expression is not commonly used in the context of CA's 911 call. By saying my grand daughter is missing and we found my daughters car today and it smells like a dead body in the trunk (paraphrased). Cindy during that excited utterence is clearly linking the smell with her missing grand daughter as well as linking that smell to the trunk directly and mentioning the key words "dead body".

This is very different then the example of my wifes comments regarding my love of spicy chili and it's after effects. Which I would say is the more common vernacular.

It's kind of like saying "I'll kill you". People use it all the time usually in jest, or out of embarrassment and surprise. However not many people say I'm going to "I'm going to kill you with my bare hands" then a couple days later that person turns up dead from strangulation and not be considered a suspect.

CA's comments in the 911 call really need to remain in the context of what was transpiring at that moment or mere moments before. Analyzing them outside of that context would be an effort by the defense to twist the truth and not seek it.

 

[faefrost]

Saying that the car smelled like something had died is nothing like saying it smells like a dead body was in the car.IMO Amy was aware of this through a text that Kc sent to her on the 27th.IMO I find that statement of it smells like something died to be generic and used commonly. IMO Like a figure of speech. IMO

Quite true... UP UNTIL THE POINT THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY A DEAD BODY INVOLVED!!!

The phrase "it smells like something died him here" can easily simply be a typical mothers comment concerning the common stench of a sons college dorm room, up until the point where his roommate hasn't been heard from in a month. Context is everything. Comment "it smells like something died" with nothing else, from one person is a petty complaint. Comment "It smells like there has been a dead body in the trunk" + missing and now known to be dead toddler last seen in the company of the cars operator suddenly takes on a whole different level of meaning.

 

[RR0004]

Anyone remember what CA told Amy on their way to find Casey? I thought she mentioned something about the odor of the car.

EVERYBODY spoke about the odor in the car...including CASEY!

 

[RR0004]

Actually, all those people that you mentioned (not the dog), did nothing about the smell for a long time.IMO Everyone seems to be right in sync with Ca on their actions. Simon went back to work, Ga went back to work, Le did not secure the car until the next day. IMO Seems no one took this smell serious enough to do anything about it right away. IMO

IMO...there are only a handful of people who did nothing...and their last name begins with the letter "A".

 

[Cat13067]

Quite true... UP UNTIL THE POINT THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY A DEAD BODY INVOLVED!!!

The phrase "it smells like something died him here" can easily simply be a typical mothers comment concerning the common stench of a sons college dorm room, up until the point where his roommate hasn't been heard from in a month. Context is everything. Comment "it smells like something died" with nothing else, from one person is a petty complaint. Comment "It smells like there has been a dead body in the trunk" + missing and now known to be dead 3 toddler last seen in the company of the cars operator suddenly takes on a whole different level of meaning.

On top of that who cries the words about the dead body smell in a car to the 911 operator, and then tries to say that they were lying just to get LE to their house? It's against the law in Florida to contact 911 operators with false statements, and CA being married to a former LE officer knows that. Her call to 911 was the most truthful statement that ever came out of CA's mouth concerning this case. IMO

 

[RR0004]

That is just it. You hit the nail on the head. It is unthinkable, and unlikely IMO If a jury is to believe such a far fetched story as this, the State better have some real solid evidence. IMO Sorry to be off topic, but I find what you said to be very important and probably going to be in the closing statements. IMO

It's not any more unbelievable than all the tales Casey told to LE. The 911 calls will address that as well.
BTW...lest we forget...there was no nanny.