NTS, sorry if this has already been addressed, but I totally agree with this post! I rarely agree with your posts, but this issue has bothered me for a long time. I simply cannot understand why no other co-worker has come forward about Cindy's comments about the smell in the car. Thanks!!!
Hello. It is Charles C., one of the coworkers who said "We", (plural) were all standing around by the door when Cindy came in from picking up the car at the tow yard. AZl lawyer helped clarify for NTS that Cindy having told her coworkers (whether "we" meant two people or three or ten doesn't matter) actually diffuses some of the excited utterance claim, not bolsters it.
Indeed later in the day after AZ lawyer pointed that out, low and behold the media were shown or given an unfiled copy of a new defense document asserting just that...that it was not going to qualify as an excited utterance because Cindy had discussed it earlier with coworkers and her husband it was not a new discovery at all.
There is an entire thread about what Cindy said to the co workers and what they observed. IIRC at least three gave statements to the police.
http://www.wftv.com/news/18530380/detail.html The actual police statements the co workers gave, it is a treasure trove.
borrowing a summary from that thread from our member ThoughtElf :
"Consistent in all three co-worker statements:
- Zanny never visited Gentiva
- Zanny was never referred to as Zanaida/Zaneida, etc. - just Zanny
- All three were under the impression that Casey was working, as KC would often drop Caylee off to her mom at Gentiva "so she could go to work"
- CA mentioned 'smell in the car' to all three co-workers when she returned to Gentiva after picking up the car on July 15th
- All three found it strange that CA believed KC's stories about the Tampa accident and reasons why CA couldn't talk to Caylee
- two coworkers (the Debbie B and Debbie P) both advised CA to call the police on July 15th after hearing about the car
- Both Debbie's also noted that CA said KC was fighting/yelling a lot at GA
- Charles noted KC was pregnant - and even asked another coworker to check also. Couldn't believe that CA didn't 'notice'
- KC was often seen wearing an ID tag when she visited Gentiva, but no one noticed what was on the tag"
Many lawyers, and indeed the state in its motion opine that the 911 call is still coming in to the trial because although the condition of the car was weighing on her throughout the day...it was the moment that she learned Caylee was missing from Casey that , anyone can hear it in her voice, in the words of Lee she became "Very VERY frantic!" The state's motion is a must read. Linda Drane Burdick has every base covered.
I am posting the state's document just for quick comparison.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23858915/detail.html
If the learned judge should determine that the 911 calls will not be coming into trial, there is still plenty to work with for the state to put the other pieces of the puzzle together for the jury. Not that they would be permitted to testify to them, but I have found various and sundry examples of how often mom and pop told others about the smell in the car. If I am on the jury, I am perfectly satisfied just taking the opinion of a homicide detective. All the mom and pop stuff...I have already set aside because imo the jury will find them to be beyond biased if not biased and troubled and dismiss their testimony in its entirety.
