2010.06.19 ~ Kyron Horman's Blended Family

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  • #241
Do you have a link to it? I am unable to find it. Thanks.

The videos are all linked in this thread.

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107664"]2010.06.25 ~Interviews ~Kyron Horman's Parents' Plea: 'Come Home' - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]
 
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Gotacha: Mums the word. I was goggling like a crazy person looking for some MSM evidence it was true- to no avail. I am assuming its not, but how in the world did something like that get started?:banghead:

:floorlaugh: This is why we ask for links my peeps. And why I repeat the rules over and over. But this is what makes WS a great place. Factual information.

:grouphug:



OK no more nurse posts.........none :crazy: rut roh I mean no more posts about the possibility of Desiree being a nurse. :eek: The nurses here can still post. YIKES.
 
  • #244
So there is no link to DY denying she knew TH before Kyron's birth?

The day they did the media blitz DY gave an adamant no. Which video it is in I don't remember. If you listen to all interviews that day you will come across it.
 
  • #245
lol

Can I be of assistance?

Let's see...
There's that pix they published - of Desiree at the beach - pretty sure shes' a lifeguard - which, if you think about it is a kind of swimming nurse. right?

okay, no. I cannot be of assistance. :shakehead:

:slap:
(there, I'm saving you a post, gran)
 
  • #246
Emma Peel :slap: :blowkiss:
 
  • #247
The day they did the media blitz DY gave an adamant no. Which video it is in I don't remember. If you listen to all interviews that day you will come across it.

I did and didn't hear this. If someone is using this as fact, I thought they would have a link.
 
  • #248
lol

Can I be of assistance?

Let's see...
There's that pix they published - of Desiree at the beach - pretty sure shes' a lifeguard - which, if you think about it is a kind of swimming nurse. right? okay, no. I cannot be of assistance. :shakehead:

LMAO! :purplebananna:
 
  • #249
The day they did the media blitz DY gave an adamant no. Which video it is in I don't remember. If you listen to all interviews that day you will come across it.

IIRC, it's the KGW in-house (Channel 8) local version.
 
  • #250
I have NOOO sympathy for BIO mom at ALL.....at ALL, yeah ok, in the beginning she was sick, obviously never came back. Now what I observe is, she is all about her.
 
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Re-posting eyes4crime's great Updated and Corrected Timeline
about blended family.

Since I re-started this discussion (in the very wee hours Friday) about Desiree saying she did *not* know Terri as a friend before Kyron's birth -- I thought I should check back in and do an update since there seems to be quite a bit of interest in this.

Updated and corrected time-line - thanks fellow WS's. time-line marriage, separations, births
Taken from article in Oregonian and WW(no longer working)

2000...Desiree and Kaine married

2001 - marriage soured, separation in the works.

January, 2002 - Desiree becomes pregnant - try again at marriage

August, 2002 - Desiree 8 months pregnant, files for divorce.

September 9th, 2002 - Kyron is born.

2003 - Kaine & Desiree officially divorce. Kyron lives with Desiree (shared custody)

One month after divorce - Desiree fears Kaine will "remove our children from their residence". Restraining order issued with orders that neither parent can take children away. (source: WW)

2004 - Desiree goes to Canada for treatment of a life-threatening kidney failure.

2004 - Kaine brought in Terri and son to care for Kyron. (corrected via statement bio mom made about not knowing Terri).

2004 - After two months, Desiree returns from Canada with $30,000 in medical bills and moves in with parents so she can get back on her feet.

April, 2007 - Terri and Kaine marry in Kauai

2009 - Baby girl born to Kaine and Terri

March, 2010 - Son sent to live with grandparents.

June 26, 2010 - Kaine and baby girl move out

June 28th - Kaine files for divorce and RO to protect baby girl from Terri.


(And here's my original post from last night)
Question about possible thread: Were TH & DY really friends?

I'm very frustrated to keep hearing *and* reading on every newscast and TV show and every online media source that TH and DY were friends before Kyron was even born. Also frustrating to me is the repeated news that TH knew and helped take care of Kyron from the time he was "three days old."

The first time I read all this was in an Oregon Live article about "The Blended Family." TH's friends have also claimed it is true -- however, DY stated very clearly in the media interviews with Kaine that she was *NOT* friends with TH.

Please see bolded quote below from WS Timeline. I wasn't sure how to directly quote it from the WS Case Calendar to this thread, so I bolded instead.:innocent:

From WS Case Calendar and timeline information
eyes4crime 6/30/10 at 4:31 p.m. Post #9
Updated and corrected time-line - thanks fellow WS's. time-line marriage, separations, births
Taken from article in Oregonian and WW(no longer working)

2004 - Desiree goes to Canada for treatment of a life-threatening kidney failure.

2004 - Kaine brought in Terri and son to care for Kyron. (corrected via statement bio mom made about not knowing Terri).


So, WS has clearly corrected the original incorrect Oregonian info about the friendship. I'm proud about this due to being a member here:blushing: and frustrated that no one else in the media seems to have done so.

To me, DY's words, tone, and demeanor clearly indicated she was *not* friends with TH. Did the original erroneous information from the Oregonian come from TH's "friends" or TH's mother?

I would like to see this misinformation cleared up -- #1. because it has been refuted by DY and #2. every time I read it or hear someone say it, the "long friendship" (error) statement seems to be used to cast a negative light on DY -- IMHO.

So, does anyone else have an issue with this? Does anyone else have information about how DY and TH came to know each other and how to correct this constantly repeated error in the media?

TIA

The *original* source for the mis-information was in the Oregonian
Kyron Horman's blended family: Friends describe a close ...

Jun 19, 2010 ... Terri Moulton Horman and Desiree Young were friends before Kyron was born.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_blended_family_f.html
and in Willamette Week.

Every other article about the family background that I have read seems to draw heavily from this original Oregonian "blended family" article. As time has unfolded, it certainly seems that the "friends" who provided quite a bit of (mis)information for this article were TH's friends.

I *know* I clearly heard DY say (on a 6/25/10 video with Kaine) she didn't know TH before Kyron was born. I'm certain the video was the longer one done locally by KOIN, Channel 6 News. It seems that video has been edited now and I am going to call the station and find out if the original is still available.

Meanwhile, last night CharlestonGal posted the following interesting observation about this situation.

Terri moved in with Kaine in 2003 (before Kaine assumed full custody). If you read further down the "blended family" article, it talks about Terri's personal, work and education history. It says that AFTER moving in with Kaine, Terri worked at substitute teaching positions from 2003 to 2006.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_blended_family_f.html

"Between March 2001 and June 2002, she was a substitute teacher in the Hillsboro School District. According to spokesman Beth Graser, Terri held long-term jobs at Eastwood, Mooberry and Lenox elementaries.

After moving in with Kaine, Terri went onto the on-call substitute teachers list between 2003 and 2006. Graser said Terri held no more long-term jobs with the district."



What that says to me is that Terri moved in with Kaine a year before he had custody of Kyron, so the whole "nanny" and "helping with the baby" thing goes out the window right there. She moved in with him before Kyron was even there.

ETA: Desiree provided a direct and simple NO when asked if she and Terri were friends during Desiree's pregnancy.

And then Donjeta provided this relevant post:

Terri's friend told the media that Terri had known Kyron ever since he was three days old. It is generally a bit hard to get to know newborns unless you know one or more of his parents/other caretakers. Desiree denied having known Terri before Kyron was born so we can perhaps safely assume that Terri knew Kaine.


http://www.nwcn.com/news/oregon/Friend-defends-Kyron-Hormans-stepmom-96798439.html

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/details_emerge_about_the_day_k.html

Terri knowing Kaine would fit in with what her mother had to say about her relationship with Kyron. She lets us understand that Terri and Kaine have been together for seven or eight years and she's known Kyron from an infant (Kyron is now seven). She also remarks that the reason for her being so mother-like for Kyron is that the parents were separated. It would be an unusual remark if the nature of the relationship with the baby is a friendship with the baby's mother but it makes sense in a situation in which a woman has a relationship with the father. IMO

Many posters have wanted a link to the interview and so do I!:banghead: Please help if you can.

I know this is a long post -- however I wanted to hopefully sum up and clarify something about this whole confusing case:rolleyes:

Several other posters made great comments, additions, etc., since last night, however I decided not to include all so I wouldn't take up a whole page on the thread.:dance::slap:
 
  • #253
Re-posting eyes4crime's great Updated and Corrected Timeline
about blended family.

Since I re-started this discussion (in the very wee hours Friday) about Desiree saying she did *not* know Terri as a friend before Kyron's birth -- I thought I should check back in and do an update since there seems to be quite a bit of interest in this.




(And here's my original post from last night)
Question about possible thread: Were TH & DY really friends?

I'm very frustrated to keep hearing *and* reading on every newscast and TV show and every online media source that TH and DY were friends before Kyron was even born. Also frustrating to me is the repeated news that TH knew and helped take care of Kyron from the time he was "three days old."

The first time I read all this was in an Oregon Live article about "The Blended Family." TH's friends have also claimed it is true -- however, DY stated very clearly in the media interviews with Kaine that she was *NOT* friends with TH.

Please see bolded quote below from WS Timeline. I wasn't sure how to directly quote it from the WS Case Calendar to this thread, so I bolded instead.:innocent:

From WS Case Calendar and timeline information
eyes4crime 6/30/10 at 4:31 p.m. Post #9
Updated and corrected time-line - thanks fellow WS's. time-line marriage, separations, births
Taken from article in Oregonian and WW(no longer working)

2004 - Desiree goes to Canada for treatment of a life-threatening kidney failure.

2004 - Kaine brought in Terri and son to care for Kyron. (corrected via statement bio mom made about not knowing Terri).


So, WS has clearly corrected the original incorrect Oregonian info about the friendship. I'm proud about this due to being a member here:blushing: and frustrated that no one else in the media seems to have done so.

To me, DY's words, tone, and demeanor clearly indicated she was *not* friends with TH. Did the original erroneous information from the Oregonian come from TH's "friends" or TH's mother?

I would like to see this misinformation cleared up -- #1. because it has been refuted by DY and #2. every time I read it or hear someone say it, the "long friendship" (error) statement seems to be used to cast a negative light on DY -- IMHO.

So, does anyone else have an issue with this? Does anyone else have information about how DY and TH came to know each other and how to correct this constantly repeated error in the media?

TIA

The *original* source for the mis-information was in the Oregonian
Kyron Horman's blended family: Friends describe a close ...

Jun 19, 2010 ... Terri Moulton Horman and Desiree Young were friends before Kyron was born.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_blended_family_f.html
and in Willamette Week.

Every other article about the family background that I have read seems to draw heavily from this original Oregonian "blended family" article. As time has unfolded, it certainly seems that the "friends" who provided quite a bit of (mis)information for this article were TH's friends.

I *know* I clearly heard DY say (on a 6/25/10 video with Kaine) she didn't know TH before Kyron was born. I'm certain the video was the longer one done locally by KOIN, Channel 6 News. It seems that video has been edited now and I am going to call the station and find out if the original is still available.

Meanwhile, last night CharlestonGal posted the following interesting observation about this situation.



And then Donjeta provided this relevant post:



Many posters have wanted a link to the interview and so do I!:banghead: Please help if you can.

I know this is a long post -- however I wanted to hopefully sum up and clarify something about this whole confusing case:rolleyes:

Several other posters made great comments, additions, etc., since last night, however I decided not to include all so I wouldn't take up a whole page on the thread.:dance::slap:

So we can deduce from all of this that Terri had relationship w/ Kaine and *possibly* was living with him when Desiree went to Canada for medical treatment?
Ugh. Sorry but I like Terri less and less as each day goes by.
 
  • #254
Re-posting eyes4crime's great Updated and Corrected Timeline
about blended family.

Since I re-started this discussion (in the very wee hours Friday) about Desiree saying she did *not* know Terri as a friend before Kyron's birth -- I thought I should check back in and do an update since there seems to be quite a bit of interest in this.




(And here's my original post from last night)
Question about possible thread: Were TH & DY really friends?

I'm very frustrated to keep hearing *and* reading on every newscast and TV show and every online media source that TH and DY were friends before Kyron was even born. Also frustrating to me is the repeated news that TH knew and helped take care of Kyron from the time he was "three days old."

The first time I read all this was in an Oregon Live article about "The Blended Family." TH's friends have also claimed it is true -- however, DY stated very clearly in the media interviews with Kaine that she was *NOT* friends with TH.

Please see bolded quote below from WS Timeline. I wasn't sure how to directly quote it from the WS Case Calendar to this thread, so I bolded instead.:innocent:

From WS Case Calendar and timeline information
eyes4crime 6/30/10 at 4:31 p.m. Post #9
Updated and corrected time-line - thanks fellow WS's. time-line marriage, separations, births
Taken from article in Oregonian and WW(no longer working)

2004 - Desiree goes to Canada for treatment of a life-threatening kidney failure.

2004 - Kaine brought in Terri and son to care for Kyron. (corrected via statement bio mom made about not knowing Terri).


So, WS has clearly corrected the original incorrect Oregonian info about the friendship. I'm proud about this due to being a member here:blushing: and frustrated that no one else in the media seems to have done so.

To me, DY's words, tone, and demeanor clearly indicated she was *not* friends with TH. Did the original erroneous information from the Oregonian come from TH's "friends" or TH's mother?

I would like to see this misinformation cleared up -- #1. because it has been refuted by DY and #2. every time I read it or hear someone say it, the "long friendship" (error) statement seems to be used to cast a negative light on DY -- IMHO.

So, does anyone else have an issue with this? Does anyone else have information about how DY and TH came to know each other and how to correct this constantly repeated error in the media?

TIA

The *original* source for the mis-information was in the Oregonian
Kyron Horman's blended family: Friends describe a close ...

Jun 19, 2010 ... Terri Moulton Horman and Desiree Young were friends before Kyron was born.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_blended_family_f.html
and in Willamette Week.

Every other article about the family background that I have read seems to draw heavily from this original Oregonian "blended family" article. As time has unfolded, it certainly seems that the "friends" who provided quite a bit of (mis)information for this article were TH's friends.

I *know* I clearly heard DY say (on a 6/25/10 video with Kaine) she didn't know TH before Kyron was born. I'm certain the video was the longer one done locally by KOIN, Channel 6 News. It seems that video has been edited now and I am going to call the station and find out if the original is still available.

Meanwhile, last night CharlestonGal posted the following interesting observation about this situation.



And then Donjeta provided this relevant post:



Many posters have wanted a link to the interview and so do I!:banghead: Please help if you can.

I know this is a long post -- however I wanted to hopefully sum up and clarify something about this whole confusing case:rolleyes:

Several other posters made great comments, additions, etc., since last night, however I decided not to include all so I wouldn't take up a whole page on the thread.:dance::slap:

Thanks, Avalon Blue. I am not trying to be difficult on this issue, but, I did watch the interviews and did not hear this. This is why I have asked for a link. I know this case seems, more than any other recent one I can recall, to be rife with rumours and all, and with it being reported one way (they were friends) in MSM, I would really like to be clear on this, before accepting that they didn't know each other or were friends, as fact. And that last few words is I guess another question, did DY say they didn't know each other, or, did she say they weren't friends. Big difference if she said either one.
 
  • #255
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"Many posters have wanted a link to the interview and so do I!:banghead: Please help if you can."

The interview is on youtube:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rx3YHyQrM8[/ame]

Go to the 6:04 mark to about the 6:11 mark -- that's where the interviewer asks bio mom DY if she knew TH before Kyron was born, DY says "No, I did not" and then "No" again. Also watch KH's body language and lack of expression and movement, IMO, when that question is asked by the interviewer and answered by DY.

(I think this is the KOIN channel 6 interview that was being asked about further up this thread -- I also could not find the video on the KOIN website. If this video is not KOIN, can someone please post the correct tv station/network as DY and KH did a lot of interviews on 6/25.)
 
  • #256
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Go to the 6:04 mark to about the 6:11 mark -- that's where the interviewer asks bio mom DY if she knew TH before Kyron was born, DY says "No, I did not" and then "No" again. Also watch KH's body language and lack of expression and movement, IMO, when that question is asked by the interviewer and answered by DY.

(I think this is the KOIN channel 6 interview that was being asked about further up this thread -- I also could not find the video on the KOIN website. If this video is not KOIN, can someone please post the correct tv station/network as DY and KH did a lot of interviews on 6/25.)

Thank you so much for finding that. I've watched the videos so many times because people keep asking for links - I just couldn't watch them all again right now.

Verbatim from 6:04:

Interviewer: "Despite the divorce, you seem - I mean, you knew Terri before Kyron was born, right?"

DY: "No,I did not.

Interviewer: "You didn't?"

DY: "No."

So, that clears that up. According to DY, she did NOT know Terri before Kyron was born, despite what Terri, her family, or her friends say.
 
  • #257
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"Many posters have wanted a link to the interview and so do I!:banghead: Please help if you can."

The interview is on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rx3YHyQrM8

Go to the 6:04 mark to about the 6:11 mark -- that's where the interviewer asks bio mom DY if she knew TH before Kyron was born, DY says "No, I did not" and then "No" again. Also watch KH's body language and lack of expression and movement, IMO, when that question is asked by the interviewer and answered by DY.

(I think this is the KOIN channel 6 interview that was being asked about further up this thread -- I also could not find the video on the KOIN website. If this video is not KOIN, can someone please post the correct tv station/network as DY and KH did a lot of interviews on 6/25.)


Thanks! I missed that on the first go round. But, the question, Did you know TH before Kyron was born, makes me wonder, when did DY meet TH. Did DY know TH before TH hooked up with KH? That is still something I would liket o know.
 
  • #258
Thank you so much for finding that. I've watched the videos so many times because people keep asking for links - I just couldn't watch them all again right now.

Verbatim from 6:04:

Interviewer: "Despite the divorce, you seem - I mean, you knew Terri before Kyron was born, right?"

DY: "No,I did not.

Interviewer: "You didn't?"

DY: "No."

So, that clears that up. According to DY, she did NOT know Terri before Kyron was born, despite what Terri, her family, or her friends say.

My next question would have been ... "So when did you meet Terri?"
 
  • #259
My next question would have been ... "So when did you meet Terri?"

ITA. I think that the interviewer missed a lot of questions I would have asked.
 
  • #260
Thank You TrY for finding that video. DY definitely says she didn't know TH before. This is important information that we now know is correct.

Kyron wasn't even born yet, so I find it odd that they talk as though he'd be affected while they were divorcing, but he wasn't even born yet. Correct? Did DY really have custody and care for him for the two years before her illness? Did Kyron go for visitation to his Dad's?

Curious if Kyron felt more attached to DY than TH? Curious about alot of stuff.
 
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