2010.06.26 9-1-1 call from Horman's home

[IRule254]

9-1-1 calls placed from Horman home over the weekend
Updated today at 1:06 PM

The two 9-1-1 calls from the Horman home on NW Sheltered Nook Road were made Saturday evening. The first came at 5:17 p.m. and was a "threat" priority two call, meaning officers were sent in person, according to an emergency dispatch supervisor. They arrived at 5:25 p.m.

It was not clear whether the calls were placed by a woman or a man.

Later, a "custody" related call was made at 11:39 p.m. It was a priority four call, meaning officers did not respond in person, but a call back to the home was placed at 11:46 and the situation was resolved over the phone.

http://www.kgw.com/news/Second-grade-student-missing-from-Skyline-Elementary-95670454.html

From the same article:

"Early Monday, Terri Horman denied to KGW that Kaine had moved out of the home they shared in Northwest Portland. She also said she knew nothing of a statement getting released by Kaine, along with his ex-wife Desiree Young and her husband, Tony Young."

I may have missed this but I didn't realize she denied knowing anything about the statement. Wow.

 

[grandmaj]

The 5:17 call was to a numbered addy. We do not know who called. Could have been many scenarios. The paper is reporting it was to the H residence. See the link. [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5349517&postcount=518"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

I have also rewound.,and agree with the link. Many many scenarios but it appears at the present time that the news is saying it was at the H. residence. Error? Weird coincidence I don't think so.

Without more information I believe it is all a guess why the information is a tad different.

 

[wildmala]

I also agree with another poster about Kyron's glasses. If they were found in her truck, that is damning to me and I hardly know Kyron. I doubt he hardly ever took them off, and knowing there's a photograph from that morning with him wearing his glasses, if they were found to be in TH's possession, yep, that is divorce causing, restraining order material right there, especially if he only owned one pair.

I'm trying to find the previous post re the glasses you are referring to. Can you help? Sorry if I've skimmed over it!

 

[MsFacetious]

In a phone interview, Desiree Young was asked if Terri knew they had written the statement. She said, “No, Terri didn’t know that we wrote this statement.” She wouldn’t comment as to why Terri wasn’t involved in the writing of it.

http://www.kval.com/news/local/97360254.html

She didn't know anything about it.

I don't know that the neighbors would know the Horman's address. So if they called 911 for a disturbance there, the officers would likely get the caller's address. Then the caller can show them where the problem is. That would be why it wasn't the Horman's exact address, if it's true that it was not.

One of them also could have been neighbors having issues with reporters, if there was actually 3 calls that night.

From the same article:

"Early Monday, Terri Horman denied to KGW that Kaine had moved out of the home they shared in Northwest Portland. She also said she knew nothing of a statement getting released by Kaine, along with his ex-wife Desiree Young and her husband, Tony Young."

I may have missed this but I didn't realize she denied knowing anything about the statement. Wow.

 

[PickieChickie]

The 5:17 call was to a numbered addy. We do not know who called. Could have been many scenarios. The paper is reporting it was to the H residence. See the link. Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

I have also rewound.,and agree with the link. Many many scenarios but it appears at the present time that the news is saying it was at the H. residence. Error? Weird coincidence I don't think so.

Without more information I believe it is all a guess why the information is a tad different.

Does the local police department dispatcher actually give the name and address over the scanner or do they refer to it by the name of the home owner listed on public records?

Like this: Please respond to the Horman residence at 1234 Someway for a domestic dispute (OR)

Or like this: "Domestic dispute at 1234 Someway?

 

[RubyRed]

Good video at link

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/kyron-hor...d-explosive-court-documents/story?id=11050953

 

[Aedrys]

I'm trying to find the previous post re the glasses you are referring to. Can you help? Sorry if I've skimmed over it!

I know I saw it, but I can't remember where. Someone mentioned what if the evidence Kaine found out about was Kyron's glasses in TH's truck since the LE distributed a photo of Kyron without his glasses on.

 

[PickieChickie]

I know I saw it, but I can't remember where. Someone mentioned what if the evidence Kaine found out about was Kyron's glasses in TH's truck since the LE distributed a photo of Kyron without his glasses on.

When I want to find a post containing a particular word such as glasses, I click on "Edit" on my browser "menu" bar then click on "Find". You will see, at least in Mozilla Firefox, a Find search engine in the lower left hand corner of your screen with a "Next" and "Previous" arrow to the right of it. I hope you can find it easily now!

 

[PickieChickie]

There wouldn't have been anything on the scanner for the 11:39 call, because no LE were sent out. It was all done over the phone. So this is an additional call to the previous info we have.

The county where I live publishes the sheriff's public log on the Internet every Tuesday and Friday in pdf form.

If someone really wanted to know about the call, it should be available at the police department for viewing as all calls received on the emergency and non emergency line should be added to the log.

Perhaps someone local can go to the police department and ask to see the public log. If the 11:39 call is listed, more information might be available such as who the caller might have been, whether it was a male or female, and might even provide the name.

If someone does this, and there is good information on the log, please ask to have a copy made of the page to scan and upload to Photo Bucket as a source if you are to quote it. I'd like to see it as I'm sure other people will. (I think this would be acceptable and not a violation of TOS.)

 

[Peachy]

Does the local police department dispatcher actually give the name and address over the scanner or do they refer to it by the name of the home owner listed on public records?

Like this: Please respond to the Horman residence at 1234 Someway for a domestic dispute (OR)

Or like this: "Domestic dispute at 1234 Someway?

Generally, the dispatcher will give the address and what the call is regarding as you have in your second example.

 

[TopTop]

Not sure if this was already posted...apparently there were two different calls.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/97533749.html

 

[grandmaj]

Does the local police department dispatcher actually give the name and address over the scanner or do they refer to it by the name of the home owner listed on public records?

Like this: Please respond to the Horman residence at 1234 Someway for a domestic dispute (OR)

Or like this: "Domestic dispute at 1234 Someway?

Street number and street name. And whatever the event is.

 

[mrsu]

My speculation is that based on the 2 calls first one around 5pm for threats, then around 11:30pm for custodial issues (per the link above), is that there was some sort of disagreement that came to a head on Sat. and Kaine made reference to leaving with the baby (maybe threatened that she wouldn't see the baby again or vice versa), Terri called 911, then later that evening when Kaine didn't come home with the baby, Terri again called 911 ie. custody issues.

 

[PickieChickie]

My speculation is that based on the 2 calls first one around 5pm for threats, then around 11:30pm for custodial issues (per the link above), is that there was some sort of disagreement that came to a head on Sat. and Kaine made reference to leaving with the baby (maybe threatened that she wouldn't see the baby again or vice versa), Terri called 911, then later that evening when Kaine didn't come home with the baby, Terri again called 911 ie. custody issues.

I agree. However, I think when law enforcement arrived at the house for the threat call around 5 PM, they told Kaine to go ahead and leave with the baby, that it would be good for Terrie and him to spend the night in separate locations.

I believe the second call, and we aren't sure that it was placed on the 911 line or was merely a call to dispatch on the non-emergency line, was to ask questions about child custody.

Are we absolutely sure both calls were placed by dialing 911?

If the later call was placed by Terrie by dialing 911, that would seem rather irresponsible if there was not an emergency. (All a person has to do is look up the telephone number for the police department in the phone book which, when dialed, reaches dispatch during the hours when the police station is closed.)

 

[AlexisFresca]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_stepmother.html

Info & statements snipped from article:

Even if the police haven't publicly identified a person of interest, their actions suggest otherwise. "At this point, it's pretty clear the focus of the investigation is on her," said Ron Hoevet, a longtime criminal defense attorney.


Meanwhile, Multnomah County's Major Crimes Team, with the sheriff's office taking the lead, along with assistance from the FBI, continues its investigation. They're still checking out tips, and trying to identify and contact any sex offenders who may reside in the area to check out their alibis.

"The investigation is not in position yet to even list a suspect or persons of interest," sheriff's spokeswoman Lt. Mary Lindstrand reiterated Tuesday.

From the article:

Kaine Horman's petition for a restraining order, which must offer an explanation of why he feared his wife was a threat to himself and their daughter, was sealed by Judge Keith Meisenheimer. It was sought after Kyron's dad, as well as his mom and stepdad, had been "fully briefed by law enforcement on the on-going criminal investigation."

Okay, I'm lost here. Weren't there LE officer(s) assigned to be at the Horman house most of the day, seven days a week? What happened? Were they removed? How else could there be a threat if they weren't around? Sorry, just really confused here.

 

[cluciano63]

I don't think they have been staying in the house all this time, I think just at first, when no one knew what they had.

But I am wondering, do we know for sure Kaine was present at the time of the first call? Was that timeframe when he might have been moving out some items? Sorry if I missed this, wondering if the call could have been more about Terri being in general distress and her parents called?

 

[Patty G]

I don't think they have been staying in the house all this time, I think just at first, when no one knew what they had.

But I am wondering, do we know for sure Kaine was present at the time of the first call? Was that timeframe when he might have been moving out some items? Sorry if I missed this, wondering if the call could have been more about Terri being in general distress and her parents called?

Is there a link to an article that I can read that the police were staying at the house. Thanks.

 

[mrsu]

In this link it states that 911 was called both times.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/97533749.html

 

[cluciano63]

Is there a link to an article that I can read that the police were staying at the house. Thanks.

LE said early on in a PC that an officer was with them all the time, going home only to sleep. But I did not take that to mean they would be doing that forever.

 

[Auramyst]

I wonder when Kyron's dad, mom, and stepdad were briefed by LE about the ongoing criminal investigation?

If it was Saturday, then that could have gotten everyone worked up into some sort of confrontation... maybe Kyron's mom confronting Kyron's SM (or vice versa)? Hence, the 911 call of a 'female being threatened in the driveway'...