2010.06.28 - Kyron's Dad files for divorce and restraining order

[tfrohning]

Well, her attorney stated that estimate was grossly overstated. I'll take him at his word, since it's his fee, after all.

So I guessing that Terri LIED and was showing off for MC:waitasec:

 

[desquire]

How do we know that the redacted parts aren't sexually explicit? Because they seemed to have been talking about something else entirely when Cook then says "Hey, on a side note, the news channels all just announced you have Houze?"

My guess is some of those redacted texts are hoo hah related. (That's for you, Emma lol)

If you read it, it just doesn't flow like that. I don't care how romantically inept they may be, no one mixes a discussion of legal fees in and around their dirty talk. It's counterproductive.

 

[cypress]

The thing that I HATE about the texts and e-mails being released in part is that they are released at the discretion of the person who most benefits from a partial conversation.

What if her very next text was something along the lines of her being financially ruined for the rest of her life, or her parents, or something equally serious about having to fund, at least in part, that kind of bill. This makes me wonder why her communications are only being released in snippets. Why not release the whole text, or the whole e-mail, and let people see her words in context.

The sprinkler system for my home is on the fritz. My husband contacted someone about what might be wrong, gave them a description of what was happening. The price was for a repair was much higher than he anticipated. He came to me and said, "Guess how much this is going to cost?" And I asked how much. He replied. He wasn't bragging!

Context can and may change everything.

 

[aprilheeler]

I'm curious to know if Mr. Houze asked TH if she'd told anyone that his fee (or total case cost) was going to be $350k, and, if so, whether she acknowledged that she'd texted it to MC. At this point I'd be tempted to cancel her cell service entirely, for her own good.

 

[pufnstuf]

How do we know that the redacted parts aren't sexually explicit? Because they seemed to have been talking about something else entirely when Cook then says "Hey, on a side note, the news channels all just announced you have Houze?"

My guess is some of those redacted texts are hoo hah related. (That's for you, Emma lol)

How do we know that the redacted parts aren't text convo between MC and someone unrelated to the case, having nothing to do with the pertinent conversation about attorney fees?

 

[pufnstuf]

If you read it, it just doesn't flow like that. I don't care how romantically inept they may be, no one mixes a discussion of legal fees in and around their dirty talk. It's counterproductive.

Romantically inept in this case, I believe, is an understatement.

 

[Adrienne37]

Do we know how these two meet and how do they have this kind of intimate relationship after such a short time? Seems fishy at best

I think these are things that are better left unsaid or unknown IMO. Myself, I'm not really interested in knowing any more details of Terri's intimate relationship with MC. That's just TMI. I can live the rest of my life not knowing if the readacted parts of the messages were either "sext" or text in context or for that matter surely wouldn't want to see any accompanying "photos." Honestly, I still can't fathom that she was conducting herself in this manner so soon after her stepson disappeared. :sick:

 

[Emma Peel]

Do we know how these two meet and how do they have this kind of intimate relationship after such a short time? Seems fishy at best

I don't think we know exactly. Cell records will likely tell us the story eventually.

We know that MC participated in early days of fundraising and helping to organize local Kyron events - had access to family as former HS friend of Kaine's. Kaine indicated he thought MC did not know Terri prior.

We know that when Kaine left Terri, Terri's relationship with MC "blossomed". That's all we know per MSM stuff, IIRC.

 

[Chablis]

The thing that I HATE about the texts and e-mails being released in part is that they are released at the discretion of the person who most benefits from a partial conversation.

What if her very next text was something along the lines of her being financially ruined for the rest of her life, or her parents, or something equally serious about having to fund, at least in part, that kind of bill. This makes me wonder why her communications are only being released in snippets. Why not release the whole text, or the whole e-mail, and let people see her words in context.

The sprinkler system for my home is on the fritz. My husband contacted someone about what might be wrong, gave them a description of what was happening. The price was for a repair was much higher than he anticipated. He came to me and said, "Guess how much this is going to cost?" And I asked how much. He replied. He wasn't bragging!

Context can and may change everything.

I dont think the issue is that she is seen as bragging. Its because she said this was the amount, and her husband wants to know where she has gotten that much money. Terri is the one who gave the amount, there is no getting around that. Because she was the last person seen with a 2 month plus missing child, she is open to scrutiny and everything that comes with it. There should not be a moments peace in her life, she cant even pass a lie detector test, she tried to have Kaine killed, shes elaborating about how much she paid a lawyer, there is something very wrong with this woman. jmo

 

[debs]

Makes one wonder who benefits with an information leak at all.

 

[Emma Peel]

in other cases, I've noticed redacted references to minors.

 

[pufnstuf]

I think these are things that are better left unsaid or unknown IMO. Myself, I'm not really interested in knowing any more details of Terri's intimate relationship with MC. That's just TMI. I can live the rest of my life not knowing if the readacted parts of the messages were either "sext" or text in context or for that matter surely wouldn't want to see any accompanying "photos." Honestly, I still can't fathom that she was conducting herself in this manner so soon after her stepson disappeared. :sick:

In the south, we'd say "that girl ain't right."

 

[Adrienne37]

In the south, we'd say "that girl ain't right."

True southern girl here so you got that right!! :woohoo:

 

[desquire]

1) The baby's custody has only temporarily been settled. The Custody and Restraining Order were both TEMPORARY. And, considering THIS, I really don't blame Kaine for wanting this handled as soon as possible.

2) No, Terri's divorce attorney filed to delay the divorce proceedings in sum, not just the custody and asset portions of the divorce. LINK

Sorry, I hate to be argumentative but I think you've got your facts wrong.
(1) Yes, the RO is technically temporary but TH declined to contest it and, under the Oregon law upon which it was based, it is now procedurally intertwined with the divorce proceeding. Absent some unforseen and dramatic event, the RO will only be lifted or modified by the custodial order of the divorce proceeding.
(2) Read the motion, not the 48Hours Mystery reporting of it. It's right there on page 3 "Wife will stipulate to the entry of a General Judgment of Dissolution of Marriage terminating the marriage, with the court reserving jurisdiction to resolve all other issues in an ancillary proceeding."

 

[Cher352]

desquire, I was just going to post that we can't read this in context since parts are redacted.

MC asks how much, Terri replies something that is blacked out, and then she replies 350K.

Who knows in what context the 350K is meant? I really expected more from this.

Right! I need the all the text to be able to put it context myself. I wonder who marked out those other text messages, LE or KH's lawyer?

Plus I what to know it if was even legal of LE to provide KH with that information. I assume a judge signed off on the order to collect TH's cell records information for a criminal investigation not a divorce.

For LE to turn this information over to a spouse for his divorce doesn't seem quite legal to me. I mean how many divorcing couple in this country would love to have LE provide them with there soon to be ex's text messages?

 

[pufnstuf]

Sorry, I hate to be argumentative but I think you've got your facts wrong.
(1) Yes, the RO is technically temporary but TH declined to contest it and, under the Oregon law upon which it was based, it is now procedurally intertwined with the divorce proceeding. Absent some unforseen and dramatic event, the RO will only be lifted or modified by the custodial order of the divorce proceeding.
(2) Read the motion, not the 48Hours Mystery reporting of it. It's right there on page 3 "Wife will stipulate to the entry of a General Judgment of Dissolution of Marriage terminating the marriage, with the court reserving jurisdiction to resolve all other issues in an ancillary proceeding."

Ok, so your argument is that 2) should be discussed technically, while 1) should not.

Bottom line. Why get a divorce if the two major issues, custody and financials, aren't determined in that divorce? By bifurcating the divorce from the other issues, it really nullifies Kaine's RIGHTS to self-determination of those issues as a divorced person (see papers filed today).

 

[RubyRed]

I think these are things that are better left unsaid or unknown IMO. Myself, I'm not really interested in knowing any more details of Terri's intimate relationship with MC. That's just TMI. I can live the rest of my life not knowing if the readacted parts of the messages were either "sext" or text in context or for that matter surely wouldn't want to see any accompanying "photos." Honestly, I still can't fathom that she was conducting herself in this manner so soon after her stepson disappeared. :sick:

bbm
It goes to state of mind in my opinion.

 

[Chili Fries]

The thing that I HATE about the texts and e-mails being released in part is that they are released at the discretion of the person who most benefits from a partial conversation.

What if her very next text was something along the lines of her being financially ruined for the rest of her life, or her parents, or something equally serious about having to fund, at least in part, that kind of bill. This makes me wonder why her communications are only being released in snippets. Why not release the whole text, or the whole e-mail, and let people see her words in context.

The sprinkler system for my home is on the fritz. My husband contacted someone about what might be wrong, gave them a description of what was happening. The price was for a repair was much higher than he anticipated. He came to me and said, "Guess how much this is going to cost?" And I asked how much. He replied. He wasn't bragging!

Context can and may change everything.

Terri knows what the rest of the texts say. She could probably get the records from her phone company if she needed and file them in court, thus likely releasing them into the public domain.

 

[cluciano63]

I guess it's just me but I am just not interested in any of this divorce or money stuff...I think the divorce was a long time coming and would have happened one way or another; in this way, Kaine gets to take the high road and probably the baby, if not the way he probably wanted or envisioned. I don't see how any of it helps to find out what hapepned to Kyron.

 

[Donjeta]

Text message and chat conversations don't always flow like a normal conversation would, IMO, because both can type something at the same time and the messages can be crossed so that the consecutive messages aren't always replies to what came immediately before but Person B may reply to something that Person A wrote a couple of messages before.

In this case, MC has sent two consecutive messages, at 11:18 pm (redacted) and 11:20 pm (hey, on a side note...). If they're both to Terri then her redacted reply at 11:21 is probably a reply to MC's first redacted message at 11:18 pm and MC replies (redacted) to that one at 11:22 and 18 seconds pm. Then we have Terri reply "yep guess how much he costs" at 11:22 and 39 seconds. Just 21 seconds later than MC's previous message. If she's a lightning texter maybe she could read a message, decide what to type, type it and send it in 21 seconds but I know I couldn't do it so I think it's a response to what MC said at 11:20 (hey, on a side note...). It takes MC 19 seconds to send his one word response "zillions?"

Then there is yet another message from Terri at 11:23 which I think might be in response to MC's message at 11.22, and then the 350K one at 11:24.

It makes sense to me in respect to typing times and the way my texted conversations usually go but it's obviously all just speculation and moo. :cow:



It is clear to me that they were talking about more things than Houze's fee, and those other things were considered more important or at least MC wanted to make it look like it because he wrote "on a side note"
Whatever it was, it was something unrelated to Houze making him a side note.