2010.06.28 - Kyron's Dad files for divorce and restraining order

[tlcya]

wow, just read Terri's attorney's memorandum on suit money. Well constructed memo. He argues the point well. But then we all pretty much knew the whole point was to try to force Terri's hand.

This tactic will continue IMO as LE appears to not be able to prove Terri did anything wrong as far as Kyron's disappearance. Kain and his attorney, with coaching from investigators on the Kyron case, will keep attempting to gathere information that is completely irrelevant to the divorce proceeding in order to bump up what is so obviously lacking on the evidenciary end of their criminal investigation into Terri's possible involvement in the Kyron matter.

 

[liz b.]

Did TH and KH have a prenup ? If not, I wonder why ? Both been married ++. KH makes a good living.And apparently, TH has access to $$. It's curious.

If TH didn't get the $ from a family trust, and Houze is not handling this as a pro bono case, I am very,very,curious to know where the funds actually came from...And who the third party is.Something tells me,though, that these things will not ever be known...MOO

All MO

 

[nonfictionrocks]

If that is true, he's playing a game that I think is quite unprofessional when a missing boy is part of the equation.

This is true but IMO, continuously pointing a finger publically at someone who might be innocent is equally irresponsible too, when a missing boy is part of the equation.

ETA: Is it just me or is WS is really wonky tonight?

 

[Kimster]

This is true but IMO, continuously pointing a finger publically at someone who might be innocent is equally irresponsible too, when a missing boy is part of the equation.

The stakes are a tad different for the petitioner. He believes the respondent is responsible for his child being missing. Now perhaps the respondent thinks the petitioner was responsible for her step-son going missing, but there is nothing to indicate that at all. I just can't see the respondent's attorney playing games for that reason.

 

[Kimster]

ETA: Is it just me or is WS is really wonky tonight?

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A little birdie told me that the server is being worked on. :wink: Sshhh...that's just between us.

 

[JBean]

gosh to me this is no mystery. parents pay fees on her behalf as most parents would. the money is not hers(no loan) not a gift(not given to her) and has been earned (belongs to attorney not TH). The funds are not a liability(no pay back no loan) not an asset(belong to attorney) and their position is it is irrelevant to the proceedings.
what am I missing? i did not see the hearing and have only read the document.

 

[nonfictionrocks]

Did TH and KH have a prenup ? If not, I wonder why ? Both been married ++. KH makes a good living.And apparently, TH has access to $$. It's curious.

If TH didn't get the $ from a family trust, and Houze is not handling this as a pro bono case, I am very,very,curious to know where the funds actually came from...And who the third party is.Something tells me,though, that these things will not ever be known...MOO

All MO

Hey liz, do we know that Houze is not provinding services pro bono, if so I gotta go back and do some edits - TIA

 

[JBean]

I think the document made it pretty clear nothing is being provided pro bono. at least that's how I read it.

 

[SacreBleu]

If it was as simple as this I think it would have been divulged but:

On Friday, The Oregonian learned that Terri Horman's parents recently refinanced their home with a $165,450 mortgage, paying off the previous mortgage of $86,000. The deed of trust was filed Aug. 17 in Douglas County.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_hormans_parents_plan_fun.html

$165,450
- 86,000
= 79,450 Available

Divided between two attorneys - that won't go far. I bet that memo filed today cost the third party a pretty penny.

(And yes, I understand that the only fee in question is Houze's - but Bunch ain't doin' this for free...)

 

[JBean]

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ETA: Is it just me or is WS is really wonky tonight?

It's just you. :floorlaugh:

 

[SacreBleu]

gosh to me this is no mystery. parents pay fees on her behalf as most parents would. the money is not hers(no loan) not a gift(not given to her) and has been earned (belongs to attorney not TH). The funds are not a liability(no pay back no loan) not an asset(belong to attorney) and their position is it is irrelevant to the proceedings.
what am I missing? i did not see the hearing and have only read the document.

The point is, why not just say so?

 

[JBean]

The point is, why not just say so?

because it is irrelevant and no one's business? OTOH Perhaps a donor gave it to the attorney under the condition their identity is not revealed. To me it is not relevant unless she earned it as income and she is basically swearing that is not the case.

 

[Aedrys]

This is true but IMO, continuously pointing a finger publically at someone who might be innocent is equally irresponsible too, when a missing boy is part of the equation.

ETA: Is it just me or is WS is really wonky tonight?

He's doing what he believes. We don't know what he knows, and moreover, we don't know Terri the way he knows Terri. He believes she took his child. He is doing what he needs to do for the sake of Kyron. Cry me a river, her feelings are hurt. THIS IS NOT ABOUT TERRI. This is about Kyron. What has she done for anyone other than herself lately?

And she is still wanting him to pay her lawyer fees. So I won't tell you what I have, but I want some of yours? How schoolyard is that? She wants Kaine to fork over money, she's got to show where hers came from. This shouldn't be such a big deal. I don't care if she's pole dancing, posing nude, doing , has a sugar daddy, robbed a bank, whatever. Just say where the money comes from! And if it is from selling Kyron or selling her story to a network, then that is her is problem, and she will have to deal with the fallout for being a callous, self centered b**** and not a loving mom of the year.

She's probably worried more about the hit to her reputation should her source of money come out than wherever Kyron is right now. She should have thought about that before hiring her high priced attorney. It's not Kaine's fault she keeps making bad decisions that are only doing harm to herself.

I am tired of Kaine being the bad guy. Everything he's done is out of LOVE for KYRON. The real bad person, the one only doing things only out of LOVE for HERSELF, should put KYRON front and center and stop this madness once and for all.

I mean what fathomable reason could there be to not say where her money is coming from? Especially if it's from mom and dad? Makes me think she's hiding something. If she's so innocent, she shouldn't be hiding anything.

 

[nonfictionrocks]

I think the document made it pretty clear nothing is being provided pro bono. at least that's how I read it.

Thanks JBean but I have another question (not necessarily for you to answer but open to anyone who might know). Do high profile criminal defense lawyers make it a point during an investigation to reveal to the public that they working for free on a case? Forgive my ignorance, I am Canadian - LOL

 

[JBean]

Thanks JBean but I have another question (not necessarily for you to answer but open to anyone who might know). Do high profile criminal defense lawyers make it a point during an investigation to reveal to the public that they working for free on a case? Forgive my ignorance, I am Canadian - LOL

typically only gloria allred and mark geragos.

 

[JBean]

hey let's not start accusing the parents of anything please, if anyone may have done so please edit. thanks

 

[debs]

typically only gloria allred and mark geragos.

*snort*

Loudly, and to any microphone or camera in a 1000 mile radius.

 

[cluciano63]

In my opinion, lawyers will never reveal anything they don't have to, even if it doesn't really matter. So if they don't have to say exactly who paid, at least not yet, they won't. It is just being a lawyer. I do not think there is any hidden meaning in the source of the funds; just keeping it hidden because they can.

 

[JBean]

Did TH and KH have a prenup ? If not, I wonder why ? Both been married ++. KH makes a good living.And apparently, TH has access to $$. It's curious.

If TH didn't get the $ from a family trust, and Houze is not handling this as a pro bono case, I am very,very,curious to know where the funds actually came from...And who the third party is.Something tells me,though, that these things will not ever be known...MOO

All MO

a family trust controlled by TH would still flow down to her personally so I cannot imagine any way that would be considered a 3rd party even though it is a separate entity.

 

[Aedrys]

In my opinion, lawyers will never reveal anything they don't have to, even if it doesn't really matter. So if they don't have to say exactly who paid, at least not yet, they won't. It is just being a lawyer. I do not think there is any hidden meaning in the source of the funds; just keeping it hidden because they can.

Sounds like such a mature attitude. I'm so glad I'm not a lawyer. I just don't understand doing pointless, inane things like that just because you can.