2010.06.28 - Kyron's Dad files for divorce and restraining order

[Donjeta]

They have been talking to Kyron before this several times but I think people were waiting for a plea for a kidnapper to let him go.

 

[Wrinkles]

SBM

Finding a landlord willing to rent to a tenant whose possible length of tenancy may range from, say, 24 hours to a year?

If her parents aren't willing or able to take her in, she does have to live somewhere. At least temporarily.

Motel/Hotel -- some rooms rented by weeks/months? Storage facility? Friend's home?

My guess is that Kaine had this same consideration, so it is equal EXCEPT that he had a near 2 year old child to manage.

EDITED: storage facility for belongings.
Kaine probably would have, without other alternative, lived in his truck, pitched a tent. She could do the same (sleep in her Mustang, find a local campground). You do what you have to do to handle things in an expeditious way at times.

 

[xin]

Motel/Hotel -- some rooms rented by weeks/months? Storage facility? Friend's home?

My guess is that Kaine had this same consideration, so it is equal EXCEPT that he had a near 2 year old child to manage.

EDITED: storage facility for belongings.
Kaine probably would have, without other alternative, lived in his truck, pitched a tent. She could do the same (sleep in her Mustang, find a local campground). You do what you have to do to handle things in an expeditious way at times.

But, the Judge didn't instruct her to stay in the area.
Her parents can help her find a place near them and her son, and KH has a financial obligation to her. Wrinkles has cut through all the crap related to moving. I'm emailing it to myself, especially the one hour per room for search and rescue operation.

Tomorrow (OK, later today) she shows in court. Big day.

 

[DairyGirl]

Here's another straight-on shot of KH's new appearance. He looks awfully somber and serious. Hope it wasn't on here before already and I missed it.

Her lawyer is calling what's going on a "witch hunt." I wondered when he was going to start making statements to the press.

http://best.king5.com/denny-pet-world/biz/122957

Is this the correct link? There isn't anything there about KH.

 

[DairyGirl]

SBM

Finding a landlord willing to rent to a tenant whose possible length of tenancy may range from, say, 24 hours to a year?

If her parents aren't willing or able to take her in, she does have to live somewhere. At least temporarily.

She had 500+ friends on Facebook. I'm sure one of her friends will put her up.

 

[Susan10]

I don't understand the delay.

If she's getting threats I'd think she'd have wanted to be out of the house ages ago, because every nutcase knows where she lives now.

Not surprised she's getting threats, but I hadn't thought of it until reading here. Harrassment tends to be low on the Totem Pole with LE....too much other worse and too few LE staff, but in this case, threats may get more attention. What a headache for LE.

I have to agree whole-heartedly, Donjeta. It would be easy for a serious nutcase to find her. That said, it makes me fear for KH and DD should they return to the family home. Nutcases on both sides of the fence.

The feelings of anger and hate between KH and TH must be at a peak by now. This could even get worse.

 

[SmoothOperator]

I'm sure the intense hatred, disgust, and cruelty directed toward Kevin Fox for the rape and murder of his daughter Riley, left an everlasting scar on his estranged wife and children. I've no doubt many in Illinois wanted the death penalty reinstated just to see Kevin fry.

His first several million came from winning a law suit against LE for a biased and neglectful investigation. Hope he gets many more millions writing a book about how a witch hunt and a 'guilty' sign, hung around an innocent person's neck, can all but destroy those involved. moo mho

Hi, eyes4crimes, I too have not forgotten about precious, beautiful Riley Fox, nor do I think I EVER will forget all that I know, have seen, and learned throughout that entire case. Kevin Fox very much included in all of those vivid memories of beautiful Riley's case and the absolute injustice that was done on behalf of justice for her along with the family, most of course Kevin, but the absolute shredding of every facet of that family's entire life(once again with Kevin's life being the most torn to shreds and at times I believe truly on the verge of the breaking point)... I really could go on and on with all of the details of this precious little girls life and ultimate stranger abduction, sexual abuse, ending with a tragic&cruel death...

But in serving its purpose as in reply to your post I find NO SIMILARITIES to Kyron's case and Riley's case, atleast not enough similarities even worth mentioning.
LE indeed did have total and complete tunnel vision from the VERY GET Go in setting their sights solely on Kevin.. IMO that would be similar in SOME PEOPLES OPINION to TMH, as Ive heard many state that is what they feel is going on with MCSO, tunnel vision. However that isn't my personal opinion I believ the reason that LE "POSSIBLY" has TMH at the top of the suspect list is because is is completely warranted by actions and/or lack of actions by TMH along with several important issues coming to light since Kyron's disappearance originated...

With Kevin this was not the case and his injustice was because of that LE complete negligent and mishandling of his daughter's murder. I never for one second had a doubt he was innocent(and of course I have been wrong before in cases when trying to decide " who dun it?" and always readily admit I was wrong and way off base with my thoughts, opinions, speculations) But With Kevin the guilty behaviour was just not there not consistent in any way shape or form, as just the opposite is true for TMH IMO is the case..

I dont believe LE has tunnel vision I think theyve got the right "perP" but until something can break thru TMH's unstable behaviour and way of thinking or LE gets that small nugget of vital info that will lead them to the location of Kyron, until then we won't have the much needed closure for Kyron most importantly closure for his parents...


In closing it is an outrage and injustice(to say the very least and put it in its mildest terms) of what was done to Kevin and his beautiful and precious daughter and I personally have said many prayer of thanks for finally bringing Scott Eby to face justice for what he did not only to that precious little girl, but also a good daddy, along with her mom and big brother in those late night hours as she innocently slept in her own living room with her brother on the couch next to her and daddy sound asleep in his bed, as mom was out of town doing a fundraiser for breast cancer awareness, Eby took advantage of a broken lock on a back door and snuck in just like a wolf stealing a sheep in the darkness of night when he stole, abused and killed that precious little girl...

I do not agree that this is in any way whatsoever a "witch hunt" the sights set on TMH are warranted IMO and don't think theyre gonna rest until Kyron is found, brought home and the guilty party is prosecuted and punished to fullest extent that the law allows

 

[funknut]

Horman was dressed in a grey sweatshirt and tan shorts and sneakers. He has a freshly shaved head.

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You have to admit, it's an odd way to behave, especially considering he has a perfectly healthy head of hair.

 

[DairyGirl]

You have to admit, it's an odd way to behave, especially considering he has a perfectly healthy head of hair.

As hot as it's been here lately I would shave my head if I could.

 

[Susan10]

I'm guessing that even with everyone knowing where she lives, she has LE watching her home (she may not realize to what extent but...). Granted, they will follow her, but she knows the ins and outs of the home and around it. I am sure she feels safer there than most anywhere else. Even when she moves out, I am sure her location will be discovered by locals, MSM, etc. rather quickly. :/

That said, I am a bit disgusted at people taking issue with KH's attire. I found nothing wrong with it. But as I believe it was DairyGirl? that said, this is Portland and Portland is very laid back. If anything, as someone else said, at least he didn't wear his Kyron shirt, which would have been going over the line, I THINK. (Granted, I would have giggled had he worn it.. not that any of this is a laughing matter though)

It's laid back, for sure, but he's going into court. I would think that he might want to dress up a little bit, but to each his own. If it was me, I could barely get dressed at all to go anywhere. I'm sure the press, the light flashes, and the shouted questions were more than an irritant to him.

Don't get the shaved head. Maybe it's too much to think about right now, even combing his hair. He's been destroyed and is still living...the walking dead, heart broken. I see the same pain in DY. They express it differently, but they have both been destroyed in a way that will never go away all the rest of their lives.

I guess he feels anger, grief, hope, confusion, and guilt, to name a few. The anger protects him from the other feelings right now. The anger and the focus of it (TH) keeps him from the agonizing grief he will have to face if Kyron is gone for good.

I pray Kyron is alive and comes home. If he is not alive, I pray he is found, too. Closure never fully happens, but not knowing is a never-ending imaginative tour of unimaginable horrors happening to a loved one who could possibly still be alive.

Anyone who knows the answer to Kyron's disappearance and does not come clean has never loved and is incapable of loving. A person like that, well, would have to be a murderer.

 

[Susan10]

SBM

Finding a landlord willing to rent to a tenant whose possible length of tenancy may range from, say, 24 hours to a year?

If her parents aren't willing or able to take her in, she does have to live somewhere. At least temporarily.

She won't be able to get a job. She will have to live with someone(s) who's willing to take her in with all the paparazzi that will be following her every move. Nutcases will harrass anyone who takes her in, too. She has a rough road ahead. Maybe her lawyer will give her respite in his home, but I doubt it.

If she's innocent, this is all a travesty, but if she is guilty, it is not enough to even begin to pay for what she's done.

 

[For The Kids]

It is one of the things that makes me wonder if his attorney, Ms Rackner, is able to exercise sufficient control of her client.

Insofar as that may or may not affect the investigation into Kyron's disappearance, then the question of attorney control of client may have an impact on the case.

I fail to see for one second becase Kaine wore shorts that it means Ms Rackner has no control over her client. I think Houze has far more to worry about where clients are concerned than Rackner has. After all its Houzes client who is telling her latest bf to lie to him.

JMO

 

[For The Kids]

SBM

Finding a landlord willing to rent to a tenant whose possible length of tenancy may range from, say, 24 hours to a year?

If her parents aren't willing or able to take her in, she does have to live somewhere. At least temporarily.

Kaine managed to find somewhere quickly enough.

And to be honest where she lives isnt Kaines problem.

JMO

 

[For The Kids]

You have to admit, it's an odd way to behave, especially considering he has a perfectly healthy head of hair.

Why is it odd? Its very hot there. My husband shaves his head all the time when its odd and it sure isnt for any dodgy reason.

JMO

 

[AvalonBlue]

I TOTALLY agree with you. My point was just pondering that if I was going against what IMO was my totally crazy spouse in court, I would want to be looking like a totally normal, suit wearing, yes sir to the judge, and do what ever was necessary to keep my and, MOST IMPORTANTLY, my daughter safe and try to get the judge to judge on my side. AS a mom of 4 kids, yes, I am sure I would be in pj's in the first few days, but 6 weeks out, I think I would have the sense, at least from my lawyers, how to act and dress to get what i wanted.

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Hey, I hear you about dressing up for court -- and -- now that I've lived in Portland for 17 years and gone to court with many clients as their advocate, I still find that I'm usually more dressed up than the attorneys and practically everyone else!
:sponge:

I've felt "overdressed" (and actually embarrassed for that!) so many times I've actually tried to "casual" myself up a bit, and *still* seem overdressed. I've also had this experience when I've appeared for jury duty at the Multnomah County Courthouse.

In my past personal experience, there just seems to be something about growing up down South -- and Southern Baptist to boot -- that strikes the fear of God in you when you stand in front of your closet on an "important" day -- whether that day be Easter, any Sunday, a wedding, a funeral -- or court.

In fact, I believe this over-wearing of "fancy clothes" to "important" events down South is part of what keeps Southern Baptists afraid of hell fire and brimstone. You would *never* want to spend eternity in a place hotter than a courtroom on a hot and humid Southern summer day.
:burn:

I'm no longer Southern Baptist, and I obviously don't live down South. I don't even believe in the same kind of hell anymore -- I think we make our own heaven or hell here on Earth and beyond. However, I still dress up for court!

Who knows what the judges here in Portland think about the casually dressed people they are so used to seeing? It might be interesting to do a poll.

And as to KH's attire at court, I think TH's behavior over the last weeks would be proof to me as a judge that I wouldn't need to judge KH's sartorial choices (even if he was wearing a clown suit) as a measure of his sanity and ability to parent well.
artyguy:

Just wanted to try to get some levity into the discussion tonight -- although Dr. Fessell has definitely already won 1st prize for that!:bow::bow::bow:

 

[TxLady2]

I find some of the stuff out there against Terri downright terrifying, not only for Terri, but as a view of our society or a portion of it. It reminds of what we now think of as uncivilized times when it was a sporting event to witness an execution...less than 100 years ago, in some otherwise "civilized" places. The degree of venom is astonishing, considering this woman has not been charged with a crime. I loathe the lynch mob mentality and really wonder how an impartial jury can be convened anywhere, if she is indeed charged. (Just as I do not think Casey Anthony has any chance of an impartial jury). And some people seem to think this is okay too, that she does not deserve one.

And yes, I have seen some of that venom here on WS.

I couldn't agree more!!

 

[For The Kids]

I couldn't agree more!!

In fairness..i have seen a lot of venom towards Kaine and Desiree too. Two people that havent remotely been associated with trying to hire someone to kill there spouse or make a child disappear.

JMO

 

[ClueMeIn]

You have to admit, it's an odd way to behave, especially considering he has a perfectly healthy head of hair.

It is just getting hot here. I wonder if he has shaved his head before.

 

[redkatrampant]

Do we have any idea of what time they are going to court today?
I am gonna see what I can find in case I missed it. I guess that will be a new thread.

 

[hollye]

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kaine_horman_urges_judge_to_fo.html

Hearing on Kaine Horman's motion to force Terri Horman out of house underway.

Anyone know what the 2nd video was of that has since been deleted from the report? Strange!