2010.06.28 - Kyron's Dad files for divorce and restraining order

[SurfieTX]

"Am i the only one who does not think this is a huge amount of money for her legal fees? She hired a high profile criminal lawyer not a divorce lawyer."

No. And that's just the retainer! But, in addition to his fees, there are going to be many more in terms of the evidentiery fees, investigative fees, paperwork, research, witnesses (professional??), etc.

 

[gwenabob]

So true -- one couple tried to sell their baby for $25.00 at Walmart. And that was just this month!

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/02/cops-couple-tries-to-sell-baby-for-25-at-walmart/

IMHO I continue to say that this has to be a rumour. $350K? Where would she get that? And it's atty/client priviledge. Who disclosed this amount --

MOO

Mel

TH herself disclosed that "confidential" information to a third party in writing. When a person freely gives out attorney/client privileged information, the privilege goes away. She should keep her big mouth shut if she wants to keep things "confidential." I am sure her attorney is not happy with her.

 

[Whome?]

"Am i the only one who does not think this is a huge amount of money for her legal fees? She hired a high profile criminal lawyer not a divorce lawyer."

No. And that's just the retainer! But, in addition to his fees, there are going to be many more in terms of the evidentiery fees, investigative fees, paperwork, research, witnesses (professional??), etc.

ITA,remember ICA got $250,000. at the
begining of her case,and that money has
quickly disappeared.IMHO if TH goes to
court with Houze as her atty,this case
will cost much more money than $350,000.

If she sold/conveyed her rights to her
story of Kyron to her atty, her husband
is right to try to block the rights,as Kyron
is his child and not TH son.,and IMHO any
monies she made off my child's name I should
be entitled to a portion of.
:twocents:

 

[adh74]

IF this is correct. IF TH deposited and then withdrew this HUGE SUM of money. IF she then paid it to the atorney. IF this is all accurate and is proven (bank records, retainer document)

THEN

It really looks as if TH might have sold Kyron. Would really like to know the date of the big deposit.

ETA: maybe TH was going to use the money for the MFH on KH. Sounds like this might fit a few of the pieces of the puzzle together nicely - dontcha think?

Just now getting to reading this thread (and still have a lot of catching up to do), but this has been my theory since the day the MFH plot came out in the media. I believe that TH sold Kyron to pay a hitman to kill KH.

This is really the only way I see Kyron being alive right now. I just cannot bring myself to believe he was given to someone for "protection" or some other heroic measure. Unfortunately, I'm struggling with whether I'd prefer Kyron to be alive and suffering whatever horrible things may be being done to him as a result of that sale, or if I'd rather him be dead and at peace in heaven. I feel kinda guilty for hoping he his hangin' with the big guy upstairs than be suffering whatever torments here on earth.

 

[RoughlyCollie]

I am going to guess Houze told her not give out this information.

TH owns the attorney-client privilege, not Houze. She can give out any information she wants to, to whomever she wants.

What is her lawyer going to do about it -- refund $350,000? Not hardly, IMO.

 

[Kimster]

TH owns the attorney-client privilege, not Houze. She can give out any information she wants to, to whomever she wants.

What is her lawyer going to do about it -- refund $350,000? Not hardly, IMO.

Oh yikes! :yow: So if Kaine wins his battle here, she will have to cough up $175,000 from somewhere else?

 

[WhyaDuck?]

I'm getting kind of tired of the sordid details of this divorce.

Hoping the presser today gives us something about the real reason we are all here, so we can get past the Springer crap... but I don't have very high hopes, really.

 

[RoughlyCollie]

I believe that TH sold Kyron to pay a hitman to kill KH.

The only thing that mitigates against this is that little boys are abundantly available for the taking. So I don't think the price would be very high because all it does is add one easily pierced layer between the buyer and the boy.

Easily pierced, because the minute LE finds someone who was directly involved, that person will roll over in exchange for lesser charges and a lower sentence.

 

[evelyn24]

The reason for the divorce is IMO related to/tied to why Kyron is missing so I'm not sure why it's always dismissed as tabloid garbage.
KH has a right to take every legal move possible for himself and the future of baby K, and why should he be trashed for it and accused of not keeping the focus on Kyron? This man has kept the focus on finding his son like a laser beam as far as I can tell.
I have no problem in Kaine making these legal moves now.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

The reason for the divorce is IMO related to/tied to why Kyron is missing so I'm not sure why it's always dismissed as tabloid garbage.
KH has a right to take every legal move possible for himself and the future of baby K, and why should he be trashed for it and accused of not keeping the focus on Kyron? THis man has kept the focus on finding his son like a laser beam as far as I can tell.

I think my only real issue is that there is *so much* more divorce stuff than about the search or the real investigation, KWIM? I don't mind this kind of stuff so much in other cases where we also have stuff from LE, etc.

I just think the info is so weighted towards the family troubles that it leaves a bad taste in my mouth, as if the story is just leaving Kyron for lost so the parents can all just do their cage match in the spot light.

I guess I just want more info from LE is the problem. Just MOO.

 

[tlcya]

I cannot imagine this couple (soon to be former) has access to this kind of cash. They do not appear to have the assets to back a loan for this amount. I do not think the funds are from marital assets or accounts.

I am willing to bet Terri's parents have come up with this money, in part by being compensated for their interviews (People mag). JMOO

 

[gwenabob]

I cannot imagine this couple (soon to be former) has access to this kind of cash. They do not appear to have the assets to back a loan for this amount. I do not think the funds are from marital assets or accounts.

I am willing to bet Terri's parents have come up with this money, in part by being compensated for their interviews (People mag). JMOO

That is probably the case--I suspect the folks gave her the money. But Kaine certainly has the right to know where it came from. It doesn't seem fair that she ask for moving expenses from him, yet can come up with $350,000 for her fancy attorney, while he has to struggle to come up with his own attorney fees.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

The only thing that mitigates against this is that little boys are abundantly available for the taking. So I don't think the price would be very high because all it does is add one easily pierced layer between the buyer and the boy.

Easily pierced, because the minute LE finds someone who was directly involved, that person will roll over in exchange for lesser charges and a lower sentence.

RC, I was hesitant to say what you have said, but I agree with you. With so many junkies, etc, out there, I am not sure that the life of a child would be "worth" $350,000 to the monsters who peddle in children.

It's disgusting to think about it, and I apologize in advance if anyone is offended by my opinion (as I am, as well), but, no, I agree - it's way too high for having sold Kyron, IMO.

 

[adh74]

The only thing that mitigates against this is that little boys are abundantly available for the taking. So I don't think the price would be very high because all it does is add one easily pierced layer between the buyer and the boy.

Easily pierced, because the minute LE finds someone who was directly involved, that person will roll over in exchange for lesser charges and a lower sentence.

Perhaps that pierced layer is DDS?

It's also extremely possible that Kyron was in Canada by the time he was reported missing (or close to it anyway, I'm not sure how long the drive is from Portland to Canada). Once in Canada, he could have been taken just about anywhere in the world. And my understanding is that little boys bring a heafty price tag in some countries, even if not in the US. Additionally, with Kyron being in another country, he's not likely to be found, therefore reducing the chances that TH would be prosecuted. But perhaps DDS is about to sing like a canary and spoil TH's perfect little plan.

This is all just guesswork by an amateur who has gotten way too emotionally involved in this sad case.

 

[tlcya]

I agree, it does not seem fair. But life, as we all know, often isn't.

 

[Emma Peel]

I'm getting kind of tired of the sordid details of this divorce.

Hoping the presser today gives us something about the real reason we are all here, so we can get past the Springer crap... but I don't have very high hopes, really.

:highfive:

agreed.

It's just that ... in deeper introspective moments, I realize that in these games we are seeing played out here - and with each skeleton that falls out of each closet - the angry monster that swallowed Kyron is revealed. Irrelevant to finding Kyron, salacious and Springeresque, but somehow relevant to ... motive.

From a sleuther's perspective - as the secrets of this family unravel, I am curious as to WHY & how the 3 parental units feel so strongly that the 4th parental unit had help, and that others have knowledge of what has happened to Kyron.

more secrets to come ...

 

[cluciano63]

Does anyone even know if indeed the lawyer has been paid any large amount? Or if this is a quote as a probable amount for a trial?

 

[WhyaDuck?]

Perhaps that pierced layer is DDS?

It's also extremely possible that Kyron was in Canada by the time he was reported missing (or close to it anyway, I'm not sure how long the drive is from Portland to Canada). Once in Canada, he could have been taken just about anywhere in the world. And my understanding is that little boys bring a heafty price tag in some countries, even if not in the US. Additionally, with Kyron being in another country, he's not likely to be found, therefore reducing the chances that TH would be prosecuted. But perhaps DDS is about to sing like a canary and spoil TH's perfect little plan.

This is all just guesswork by an amateur who has gotten way too emotionally involved in this sad case.

FWIW, from what I have seen up here, the case is really well known in Canada, and has been for some time now. I think Kyron is as well known up here as Caylee was while she was missing. :twocents:

 

[citigirl]

TH owns the attorney-client privilege, not Houze. She can give out any information she wants to, to whomever she wants.

What is her lawyer going to do about it -- refund $350,000? Not hardly, IMO.

That doesn't mean her lawyer is not going to give her a strong opinion about whether she should do so or not as a matter of strategy.

 

[gwenabob]

Does anyone even know if indeed the lawyer has been paid any large amount? Or if this is a quote as a probable amount for a trial?

According to the sworn affidavit of his attorney, TH "indicated in a written communication to a third party that she tendered payment of $350,000 to her attorney..."

She did not tell the third party it was an "estimate." She said she gave it to him.

Smart criminal defense attorneys get their money up front. You don't put criminals (or innocent SAHM's with no income) on a "payment plan" or you will go bankrupt pretty quick.