2010.07.02 Actual Emergency Hearing Thread

[A_News_Junkie]

I was trying to keep up with exactly why he ruled the way he did -

Was his decision based primarily on the fact that there are no other prior rulings in Florida supporting the same?

If I understood his rationale it was that and that procedure and law dictate that all parties have a right to be there and this is how it is done for all homicide cases. (IE: he was not about to re-write law) .....

 

[sleutherontheside]

That is pretty much what he said that he could not locate any case in FL where this had been granted. He reminded JB that KC is just like all the others that have been accused -- no special treatment. (paraphrased)

But not so much that there would be no special treatment, as both sides were entitled to be there. Because those items are out of the LE investigation stage......tampering is a valid concern to both sides. It is also procedure. To preserve the integrity of the evidence and to protect the rights of both sides......each are entitled to be there.

Had there been other case law to support it HHBP may have allowed it but in the absense of any other case where it was done...he must protect the rights of both sides equally according to law. Thus allowing representation from all parties.

Had JB agreed to waive chain of custody issues then he may have said OK. But JB was NOT going to do that!!!!!!!!!!!!! And even admitted he is investigating one now.

 

[Gypsy Road]

I have that song in my head..."and another one bites the dust! And another one, and another one, another one bites the dust!"

 

[Bree0372]

ICA seemed very upset after a brief, intimate conversation with JB.

She looked like she was about to breakdown. I told my husband that's more emotion than she ever showed while Caylee was missing.

 

[HOTNTX]

OMG, Baez is in way, way, way over his head. This isn't even funny. She is going to use ineffective counsel argument on appeal, for sure. He cannot be left alone to "split the team up" as he calls it, he just cannot handle his end.

Cindy makes the same weird face where she clinches her chin and jaw as Casey. Odd. These matters he is raising are already dead and he cannot discuss them now. What the hell?

ITA! JB is soooo sub-par and embarrasing himself! This guy damn near sounds like he got his law degree while in JAIL! LOL

He acts as though he doesn't know any FL law and sounds like a student during mock trial for social studies class in high school. This is lawyering at its lowest. He is ill-equiped and speaks so ineloquently, I cringe for him!

Again, I have to say, I love how Judge Perry is making sure that this trial stays on course and WILL take place at the date he designated.

 

[AZlawyer]

But not so much that there would be no special treatment, as both sides were entitled to be there. Because those items are out of the LE investigation stage......tampering is a valid cocern to both sides. To preserve the integrity of the evidence and to protect the rights of both sides......each are entitled to be there.

Had there been other case law to support it HHBP may have allowed it but in the absense of any other case where it was done...he must protect the rights of both sids equally. Thus allowing representation from all parties.

And cleverly avoiding an appeal issue by giving the defense what they SAID they wanted--a way to talk privately with their experts--without giving them what they ACTUALLY wanted--a way to tamper with the evidence.

 

[ThinkTank]

The camera is hoping to catch a cat fight! JB is really really unhappy about the letters being released. Wonder why? Not.

whah whah whah about them being released to the public .... what about him committing a third degree felony every time he assisted in the letter exhange and other contraband??? All that blah blah blah was for the public's sake and to lighten the consciousness of the felonies he committed. IMO

 

[beach]

Because he didn't want the public to see GA's "why" letter.

Oh lord...now I have to feel sorry for GA. Cindy is gonna...gonna... ooooh...she is gonna make his life a living hell. Even moreso...

I am telling you, I really think that letter came as much as a surprise to Cindy as to Jose.

 

[What'sThatClue]

About the letters...weren't the letters JB was referring to addressed during a previous hearing? I recall both JB and the State were instructed to review the letters and then come back to him if they wanted any redacted? Was JB complaining about different letters? Thanks.

 

[The World According]

Street sweeper, street sweeper, over here please, there is a little something the judge just kicked to the curb.

 

[sleutherontheside]

And cleverly avoiding an appeal issue by giving the defense what they SAID they wanted--a way to talk privately with their experts--without giving them what they ACTUALLY wanted--a way to tamper with the evidence.

YEP.........IN A NUTSHELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:dance::dance::dance:

 

[A_News_Junkie]

And cleverly avoiding an appeal issue by giving the defense what they SAID they wanted--a way to talk privately with their experts--without giving them what they ACTUALLY wanted--a way to tamper with the evidence.

I LOVE THE WAY HE THINKS AHEAD -- Always preserving the appeal!!!!!!! :woohoo::woohoo:

 

[QueenD]

Thanks everyone for the info today, away from computer to watch. Can't wait to watch tonight! Y'all have keep me LMAO, thanks.

 

[ThinkTank]

Where was Cindy sitting?

Next to her church friend Donna C and Conway - NO GEORGE though.
When are reporters going to ASK and find out WHERE George has been the last THREE Hearings?
If he has a job, we want to know.

 

[JSR]

Oh lord...now I have to feel sorry for GA. Cindy is gonna...gonna... ooooh...she is gonna make his life a living hell. Even moreso...

I am telling you, I really think that letter came as much as a surprise to Cindy as to Jose.

I think so too. I don't think she had a clue he wrote the letter. Was GA not there again?

 

[2goldfish]

trying to think of how to phrase this without violating TOS....


I really really wish KC had better counsel. I do NOT think the way to go about this is with poor counsel. I would much prefer excellent attorneys and get this done and dusted, next may, end of story.

 

[JSR]

Next to her church friend Donna C and Conway - NO GEORGE though.
When are reporters going to ASK and find out WHERE George has been the last THREE Hearings?
If he has a job, we want to know.

Was she sitting on the Defense side?

 

[strawberry]

About the letters...weren't the letters JB was referring to addressed during a previous hearing? I recall both JB and the State were instructed to review the letters and then come back to him if they wanted any redacted? Was JB complaining about different letters? Thanks.

Maybe those were the jailhouse letters between KC and the other inmate?

 

[essies]

Bare in mind Mr.Baez!! Bare in mind Mr.Baez!! Bare in mind Mr.Baez!!ython:

 

[beach]

I think his point was that the SA has a legitimate interest in preserving the integrity of the evidence, and that the defense may have a legitimate interest in talking to their experts outside the hearing of the state. However, the interests are not necessarily in conflict, so absent any controlling law on point he was not REQUIRED to choose between them. The defense and their experts can just keep their mouths shut while LOOKING at the evidence, and then go into another room to TALK about it.

Okay, thanks. I pretty much got that, but figured I had to be missing something in re. the talk about FL case law and the heat index and need for air conditioned rooms for inspection. duh lol

I mean, HHJP's ruling was brilliant but basic common sense. Those 2 things didn't need to be exclusive. What on earth made JB think that he woudn't see through that. Even I have figured out enough about Judge Perry to know that he cuts straight through the BS in short order.