2010.07.09 - Evidence List for Inspection

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  • #81
This video shows Jeff Ashton at the evidence inspection.
They say nothing about LDBurdick?
Baez and Mason are also at the evidence inspection .... so, I guess LKBaden is doing the depositions of the Oak Ridge Lab people in Tennessee?

Weren't the depositions cancelled for Oak Ridge???
 
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A little late, but here is Judge Perry's order concerning the appointment of a special magistrate for the inspection. I don't think it was published, it is A good read! :)

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4688688...mergency-Motion-to-Appoint-Special-Magistrate

THANKS MM!!!
I've been waiting to read the Order!!

I was specifically looking to see if the Judge said whether or not the video would have audio ... but Judge P did not specify.
I remember LDBurdick said the video could be done without audio.... but I don't know if that is what will be done, or not.
 
  • #86
Ya know, it's REALLY hard to tell from their notices. Both the amendments - with a different address to do them at - and the cancellations were filed the same day.

Maybe one lawyer filed the amendment, the other lawyer filed the cancellation? :)

Here they are:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/46886388/07092010-Defense-Depo-Amendment-Cancellation

It is confusing. Cheney Mason drafted both amended Notices (changing locations) AND the Notices of Cancellation. ALL docs were signed on July 7th, but the only ones file-stamped are the Notices of Cancellation and they weren't filed until Friday, July 9th at 4:53pm. :innocent:

It appears to me they have been cancelled, but I can't tell for sure.
 
  • #87
I thought the judge seemed fully aware in the hearing the games the defense has been and is being subjected to. Well the defense will now finally have the tips from two years ago at least (pretty sad they didn't get those way back then.) Hopefully soon they'll get to examine some of the "evidence". Finally. And not in an unairconditioned garage, LOL.

You're kidding right? The SA playing games? Like what? Baez was the one making demands, getting what he requested, then declining to take advantage of it (didn't visit the remains site, fled nejames office for no real reason, etc.). I don't understand.
 
  • #88
It is confusing. Cheney Mason drafted both amended Notices (changing locations) AND the Notices of Cancellation. ALL docs were signed on July 7th, but the only ones file-stamped are the Notices of Cancellation and they weren't filed until Friday, July 9th at 4:53pm. :innocent:

It appears to me they have been cancelled, but I can't tell for sure.

Nobody else can either. Maybe that is the point? Confuse the Media and public? LOL
 
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Nobody else can either. Maybe that is the point? Confuse the Media and public? LOL

I seriously believe that may be exactly the point.
 
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And .... who is paying for all of these experts to be flown in from all over?
I don't think the JAC is going to approve expenses on all of this.
Are all of these experts coming in at their own expense? Lodging, eating, air flight tickets, rental cars????

According to KB, the taxpayers are footing the bill. I bet it's really necessary to have those experts from the Netherlands! Wonder what happens when none of the experts tells Baez what he wants to hear. KB was on fire today - stating that the video of the defense going over evidence will be made public and it just made their motion (which is unutterably redundant) look even sillier. Mason should be ashamed for the way he acted toward her. Not one ounce of class in that man. He could have politely said "no comment". Sad.
 
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This defense motion to keep the list of evidence secret is idiotic. If HHJP grants it he gets minus 5 points in my book.

Apparently, the defense team is upset that the news media is going to videotape experts and lawyers going in and out of the building to inspect evidence, and then will speculate wildly about what evidence is being inspected. Therefore, the defense wants to ensure that the news media does not get any ACTUAL information about what evidence is being inspected, because that would result in the media's reporting being more...um...accurate, which would be...um...bad? Right? :waitasec:
 
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The DNA touch expert and his wife, Eikelenboom, are from the Netherlands. They have come to look at the evidence. I don't remember seeing them on the defense witness list, nor do I remember their names being mentioned during the hearing discussing the experts. If he was not approved by the judge in that hearing, what are they doing here and who paid their expenses? I understand that Belich said the taxpayer was footing the bill. I guess my question is...can the defense ask the JAC to pay expenses for someone that was not approved by the judge and that they may not even use?
 
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The DNA touch expert and his wife, Eikelenboom, are from the Netherlands. They have come to look at the evidence. I don't remember seeing them on the defense witness list, nor do I remember their names being mentioned during the hearing discussing the experts. If he was not approved by the judge in that hearing, what are they doing here and who paid their expenses? I understand that Belich said the taxpayer was footing the bill. I guess my question is...can the defense ask the JAC to pay expenses for someone that was not approved by the judge and that they may not even use?

Oh, they can ask for whatever they want - doesn't mean they'll get it! As Judge Perry is fond of saying.... :)

I do seem to vaguely recall them talking about some experts from overseas during that JAC hearing. I'd be REALLY interested in seeing the invoices that they've submitted to the JAC so far.
 
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This defense motion to keep the list of evidence secret is idiotic. If HHJP grants it he gets minus 5 points in my book.

Apparently, the defense team is upset that the news media is going to videotape experts and lawyers going in and out of the building to inspect evidence, and then will speculate wildly about what evidence is being inspected. Therefore, the defense wants to ensure that the news media does not get any ACTUAL information about what evidence is being inspected, because that would result in the media's reporting being more...um...accurate, which would be...um...bad? Right? :waitasec:

The way I read it, it says the public will not be allowed to view the actual inspection of the evidence. The only part the public will be allowed to view is entering and leaving the building. What is the point of that?
 
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This defense motion to keep the list of evidence secret is idiotic. If HHJP grants it he gets minus 5 points in my book.

Apparently, the defense team is upset that the news media is going to videotape experts and lawyers going in and out of the building to inspect evidence, and then will speculate wildly about what evidence is being inspected. Therefore, the defense wants to ensure that the news media does not get any ACTUAL information about what evidence is being inspected, because that would result in the media's reporting being more...um...accurate, which would be...um...bad? Right? :waitasec:

I think that motion takes the prize for Whiny defense motions to date. And they've had some doozies!

The only reporting they want is if it benefits them. Good luck with that! heh
 
  • #100
Just watched Cheney's responses to Kathi Belich's questions. Why does a 5 year old's temper tantrum come to mind?

In my opinion all charm (if any) Cheney ever possessed is gone. When he took on this case he knew the media came with the territory. I think he is quickly realizing this case isn't "fun" anymore, and regardless of their bluster, he is on a losing team. Someone's a little tense!

JMO.
 
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