2010.07.12 - TH accused of sexual affair

[amysmom]

The idea of a LE sting would at least in some twisted way make sense of this whole thing. However, the fact that MC did something obviously illegal by taking photos of the sealed papers and telling two other people what was in them, plus the fact that he is now seeking his own legal counsel about those actions, tends to contradict the idea that this was a set up plot against TH. Add to that the issue of googling the address on his own phone rather than leading TH to do it herself on her phone or computer, would mean he was a rather incompetent UC plant, as the first goal would have been to get her to do that herself as an illegal act.

jmo

TH may have insisted they use HIS phone?

I always thought the person involved in a 'sting' sometimes has to commit illegal acts & this is known by both sides from the get-go?

To play along wouldn't he have to get a lawyer?

The one & only thing that doesn't fit is telling 2 ppl but do we know if that's really true? It may not be & def makes his 'story' even better..OTH!..I really can't see why he'd admit to telling anyone since most aren't too eager to confess to an illegal act unless they have no choice (ratted out) & this would point to the entire notion of a 'sting' as false does it not?

 

[WhyaDuck?]

I don't think she ever sent MC the photos. Just because they were sent from her phone doesn't mean she sent them. If she put the phone down and turned her back - instant set-up.

Interesting - it would depend on how much time MC spent around the house during his deliveries, I guess.

So, how does it run in this scenario? She goes to make coffee, and he is playing through her phone, and snooping, and finds all the naked masturbation (I assume from the wording) pics she has of herself on the phone (possibly by accident), and sends them to himself... It is possible. Perhaps he wanted them for personal use, or he was looking to turn them in.

(Or, heck, for all we know he's planning on writing a tell-all book when this is all over, which I would not be shocked by.)

I think, though, his confession of "inappropriate communications" included things like, "send me pix of your (whatever)," and that she did. It's not a crime. Poorly timed and fairly callous - but not a crime, AFAIK. I like this run down, as it is simple, and I find simple theory is often the best, but it's a matter of personal preference.

But, point taken - we don't know all the details, so we should be open to other scenarios.

 

[nyvictoria]

BBM
Glad she took the time to squeeze in thoughts of the kids. Wonder how those texts went..."I'm in my own Family Fued....I miss my kids so much....please see attached pic of me and my boobies! Muah!!!"

This is getting ridiculous. My hope is that this tilt-a-whirl ride brings Kyron home!!

bbm

A la Casey Anthony..."I hate my mother, I hate my ex-boyfriend, I love my lawyers, I want to travel the world in an RV to preach the gospel and oh yeah, I miss Caylee."

 

[ElizaAvalon]

If this were all a sting, why not get her on something real so they can bargain with her?

Not buying it.

She's still free, still doing things that show no outwards signs that she is missing a child that she helped raise.

She is being consistent.

 

[nyvictoria]

I don't think she ever sent MC the photos. Just because they were sent from her phone doesn't mean she sent them. If she put the phone down and turned her back - instant set-up.

And just who would have sent them? Her attorney? Her best friend? Her mother? Maybe Baby K?

I've been loathe to say she's guilty of anything other than poor judgement but GMAB. If there are photos of Terri in MC's phone received via text from Terri's phone, Terri sent them.


jmo

 

[ami]

Why is Terri being accused of having an affair when Kaine has already filed divorce papers? Their marriage is over.

I don't know why she's being accused by Kaine, but I believe her affair is VERY relevant to the investigation. I don't believe this is just trash or voyeurism - police LOOK for things exactly like this when a child/spouse goes missing, because it is often found to be the motive for the child's disappearance. I'm thinking Susan Smith, Diane Downs, Scott Peterson, etc. It matters. Affairs matter because they can possibly lead to motive, which can possibly lead investigators down the path to discovery.

I don't care in the slightest what TH the woman, the citizen of Oregon, USA does in her personal life - there are millions of women like her living their lives in various styles I'm sure I wouldn't agree with. But if it can help exclude her/include her as a suspect and help police figure out what happened to Kyron, a child, then heck yes investigate her private life and affairs and finances and known associates. I honestly believe that it's relevant.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

When I first "met" the Anthonys in the Caylee case, I didn't think that there could possibly be a more dysfunctional family on the planet. Enter the Croslin-Cummings clans in the HaLeigh case: Was it actually possible that this bunch could replace the Anthonys in the #1 spot?

Just when I feel like I've seen it all, fast forward to the Kyron case. Hollywood writers don't even come up with this stuff! jmo

 

[Aedrys]

bbm

A la Casey Anthony..."I hate my mother, I hate my ex-boyfriend, I love my lawyers, I want to travel the world in an RV to preach the gospel and oh yeah, I miss Caylee."

ITA! My very first thought when I read about that was those letters Casey wrote. Like TH stuck that in there so he wouldn't think she was totally shallow and uncaring. Like she knew the police may read those texts at some point, so she mentions her kids to say, see, I'm innocent because I love and miss my kids.

 

[tlcya]

ITA! My very first thought when I read about that was those letters Casey wrote. Like TH stuck that in there so he wouldn't think she was totally shallow and uncaring. Like she knew the police may read those texts at some point, so she mentions her kids to say, see, I'm innocent because I love and miss my kids.

"I better mention my kids, LE may come across these texts one day, they are watching me afterall. That being the case, I better attach a couple of photos of my monkey while I am at it."

Doesnt make sense. Those texts were NOT sent with the thought that LE was monitoring them. Which begs two questions for me:

1) Was the texting done on the same cel phone that she carried before Kyron went missing or is this a new phone? I ask because if this was a throwaway (new phone) that she thought LE was unaware of I can see her thinking it safe to text. If not and this is the same pone LE was supposed to have been investigating the pings of, why on earth would she be dumb enough not to know or suspect it was being monitored and therefore not secure or private?!?!?!!?

2) Whichever phone was used (old or new) what would possibly make Terri think that she, her calls, her whereabouts, her associations weren't being monitored?!?!?!!?

 

[amysmom]

The FBI setting up an affair, just to manufacture evidence against Terri?? I doubt it. Can't say for sure, but it doesn't sound like something any LE would do, because the ramifications could be serious when it gets to court. These things do tend to come out sooner or later. That defense lawyer would chew them up and spit them out, and the judge would throw the whole case out.

Nope... I don't think it was a sting. I think that IF this guy and Terri had sexual relations, then it happened without any provocation from LE.

Respectfully, I don't understand the bolded part. Maybe I need more coffee??

K! If not an 'official' sting then maybe MC did it all on his own hoping to get her to leak something to him re: where is Kyron? He'd be a HERO & all that jazz even at the expense of legal trouble..If as someone else said he gets to also write a book both is worth it to him..I can't wrap my brain around this is just an affair for him..TH is the last woman any man with 1/2 a brain would want to get involved with & not just cos of the Kyron situation..I can't say no more but I think everyone KWIM!

 

[winterrose]

I misunderstood one part. I thought it was Kaine who "told 2 other people", and assumed it was DY and TY he told.

Now I hear its the sexting guy who took the pic and then told 2 other people. hmmm...thats weird. What 2 people did he tell? Two thugs who might do harm to Kaine and take baby K? His parents? Two friends? Who he told is a big factor in this, IMO. Wish we knew who those 2 people were.

I'm wondering about this,because two people are involved with him in the school friends of Kaine group.I have wondered whose idea brought this group together in the first place.Was MC part of the group when he just showed up at the Horman home at the beginning?He lives down the road from them,but all of that group doesn't live in Portland.


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Originally Posted by amysmom View Post
K! If not an 'official' sting then maybe MC did it all on his own hoping to get her to leak something to him re: where is Kyron? He'd be a HERO & all that jazz even at the expense of legal trouble..If as someone else said he gets to also write a book both is worth it to him..I can't wrap my brain around this is just an affair for him..TH is the last woman any man with 1/2 a brain would want to get involved with & not just cos of the Kyron situation..I can't say no more but I think everyone KWIM!

Me
If he's done it on his own for info then it's sure backfired on him,because in much of the public's eye it's brought him under suspicion.Many people don't know what to think and it's not looking good for him right now.

 

[amysmom]

I misunderstood one part. I thought it was Kaine who "told 2 other people", and assumed it was DY and TY he told.

Now I hear its the sexting guy who took the pic and then told 2 other people. hmmm...thats weird. What 2 people did he tell? Two thugs who might do harm to Kaine and take baby K? His parents? Two friends? Who he told is a big factor in this, IMO. Wish we knew who those 2 people were.

I also wish we knew if they ratted him out or he simply confessed to doing it..That makes a diff to me cos it would help prove a theory some of us have.

If the 2 he told were KH & DY that would go along with my above statement.

 

[SurfieTX]

If MC lives down the road from them, I wonder if he has any kids that went to Skyline? Not sure if that is "sleuthing" him or not or whether that is allowed here ? Sorry in advance if I am breaking TOS.

 

[amysmom]

If MC lives down the road from them, I wonder if he has any kids that went to Skyline? Not sure if that is "sleuthing" him or not or whether that is allowed here ? Sorry in advance if I am breaking TOS.

We do know the answer to at least part of your Q re: his kid(s) cos he talked about that on camera to a local media station..I'm not sure what the rule is either so until I know I guess I have to keep quiet..Sorry!

 

[Emma Peel]

"I better mention my kids, LE may come across these texts one day, they are watching me afterall. That being the case, I better attach a couple of photos of my monkey while I am at it."

Doesnt make sense. Those texts were NOT sent with the thought that LE was monitoring them. Which begs two questions for me:

1) Was the texting done on the same cel phone that she carried before Kyron went missing or is this a new phone? I ask because if this was a throwaway (new phone) that she thought LE was unaware of I can see her thinking it safe to text. If not and this is the same pone LE was supposed to have been investigating the pings of, why on earth would she be dumb enough not to know or suspect it was being monitored and therefore not secure or private?!?!?!!?

2) Whichever phone was used (old or new) what would possibly make Terri think that she, her calls, her whereabouts, her associations weren't being monitored?!?!?!!?

Is it possible MC watched enough of Desiree & Kaine's pressers to realize he best go to LE with his phone evidence before they came to him? He's speaking to press STILL, so I just had the feeling he wised up and decided to volunteer the info he had. For Kyron's sake. :doh: Took him long enough, IMO.

 

[WhyaDuck?]

If MC lives down the road from them, I wonder if he has any kids that went to Skyline? Not sure if that is "sleuthing" him or not or whether that is allowed here ? Sorry in advance if I am breaking TOS.

I do believe that would be considered sleuthing him if you went searching for the answer, and I believe he is still off limits for private life sleuthing. Just posing the question is likely ok, though, as long as no one answers it.

The bigger issue would be that it would also be sleuthing his minor children, which is a mega TOS no no.

However, if he himself ever said this in a MSM article, that would be acceptable - just don't go digging, or post any private info, and no names of his child(ren).

HTH.

 

[bookjunkie2]

Is it possible MC watched enough of Desiree & Kaine's pressers to realize he best go to LE with his phone evidence before they came to him? He's speaking to press STILL, so I just had the feeling he wised up and decided to volunteer the info he had. For Kyron's sake. :doh: Took him long enough, IMO.

I suspect that they came to him with the, ehm, pictures and texts. He probably worked with them immediately, given the circumstances. Like: he's stupid but he ain't dumb. If you're caught with pictures of someone's monkey you don't turn around and play innocent.
I need to go wash my hands now.:yuck:

 

[Calliope]

K! If not an 'official' sting then maybe MC did it all on his own hoping to get her to leak something to him re: where is Kyron? He'd be a HERO & all that jazz even at the expense of legal trouble..If as someone else said he gets to also write a book both is worth it to him..I can't wrap my brain around this is just an affair for him..TH is the last woman any man with 1/2 a brain would want to get involved with & not just cos of the Kyron situation..I can't say no more but I think everyone KWIM!

Good point. But is he really in legal trouble? Someone else brought up that the order to seal the RO wouldn't have applied to Cook.

 

[Kimster]

If MC lives down the road from them, I wonder if he has any kids that went to Skyline? Not sure if that is "sleuthing" him or not or whether that is allowed here ? Sorry in advance if I am breaking TOS.

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The articles don't say that MC has kids that go to school with Kyron even though he didn't hesitate to say he lived in the neighborhood.

We can not sleuth the kids at all. :nono:

 

[helpfulcharlie]

Good point. But is he really in legal trouble? Someone else brought up that the order to seal the RO wouldn't have applied to Cook.

Right. As far as we can tell the only thing he's guilty of is bad judgment, which is not currently a crime, and violating the bro-code.