2010.07.19 Defense is Investigating George

[logicalgirl]

I don't believe the allegations either. I think ICA IS the family SECRET. The way the family circled the wagons tells me they know ICA has serious problems and throughout her short life they saw a continual escalation in her behavior - until this - the murder of little Caylee.

I also believe the family feels enormous guilt and shared responsibility for ICA's behavior - because they don't understand a sociopath, they also don't understand there is nothing they could have done to change her. But I believe they are aware they should have protected Caylee.

And as far as George's attempted suicide assisting ICA during the penalty phase to stop her from receiving the death penalty - a word to Baez. Do your legal case research. It's not going to help one iota! Dufus -as unprepared as always. :banghead:

 

[mydailyopinions]

If that were the truth why do they need a P.I. to make behind the scene enquiries? Why not just ask GA all about it?

I think it is merely to milk the state of Florida out of every dime they think they can. Asking George would cost nothing. Casey is owed so much for what she has been through ya know :sick:

 

[UESwifey]

Oh come on, we have all seen this bus coming for at least 2 years now. The only reason Cindy isn't likewise being gone after is the defense couldn't get the 911 tapes tossed. If they had you can guarantee JB's next theory of the crime would have been Cindy did it.

It's lame. It's digging. And it simply is yet another example of sociopathic behavior from their client,a nd an utter lack of class taste and common sense from the defense. Just raising the subject will so inflame the jury that it will probably make things worse for KC come sentancing.

Respectfully BBM

I don't think the defense is done with Cindy yet. I think they'll still come around and try and pin it on her in some way at some point. Cindy is the reason Casey felt she ran out of options, the reason Casey felt like an unfit mom, the reason Casey had no other choice. If it were up to Casey she would have given Caylee away at birth. She wouldn't have felt so much pressure, she was pushed too far. - I hate to think that this will be where the defense goes, but at this point it's clear that everyone else is to blame. Casey is the real victim - Caylee was just a casualty. :furious:

I think they'll go through George. And when nothing comes of that, Lee is next on deck - and eventually it will be Cindy who is in the line of fire. JMHO.

 

[nort]

I believe this will fail with the jury..I would be even more angry at Casey to know she caused such despair among her family. There is no undoing what she has done. The state can pull out the letters she wrote in regards to her father and show the jury how much damage she continues to cause and that she should not be allowed to torment her family any longer. The one way to ensure that outcome is the death penalty. So not killing her would actually hurt the family even more. This will backfire IMO

 

[Mendara]

I maintain, as I always have, that GA has agreed to this. He is throwing himself under the bus for his "beautiful" CEO of a daughter.

I agree, maybe not right away - maybe he was hurt and angry and he didn't know why she accused him and Lee of such terrible things and then ENTERS CA to explain it all is part of helping her. They agreed to let it go together as a family as the hand.

 

[Mendara]

I don't think he did. He has been absent from the hearings for a reason. IMO it's Casey's abuse allegations!

and why do you think he is back?

 

[Mendara]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24321817/detail.html#

Guess Baez is watching the boards and doing damage control. They're not throwing George under the bus. They're gonna use the info with the suicide attempt to try and save her life....if they're unable to prove her innocence.

he knows how to put the cart before the horse. She hasn't been convicted yet and he is already talking about how to save her from the sentence.

 

[LeLe1953]

Using GA attempted ( ????? ) suicide to gain sympathy wouldn't work for me. I would find KC only more cold hearted, knowing how much GA loved that little girl, that she just didn't hand her over & walk away.
I agree with who ever said they will try and blame Cindy for all of this, stating she made KC feel hopeless & helpless. I also think they may go somewhere with KC stating GA sexually abused her by saying she suspected him of doing the same to Caylee & wanted to spare her.
After she is found guilty, I think the defense will paint KC as a "hero" who was only trying to spare her child all the horrible things she experienced as a child at the hands of her mom & dad, that she knew they were going to file for custody & under no circumstances could she allow them to raise her daughter.
It wouldn't work on me, but you DO have some crazy azz people who will buy into it.
Cindy, George, Lee all need to run right now b/c all the lies they have told over the last 2 yrs are about to catch up with them.
On another note, someone on another subject said it looked like GA had been working out & took that as a sure sign he was about to leave Cindy. I agree, he does look like he has been working out, but maybe it b/c he fears jail & doesn't want to be weak.

 

[momtective]

All I can say is "If CA & GA continue to show up in court in support of KC after all of this, then they deserve whatever they get."

 

[Steely Dan]

I'm coming in very late here. I just found this out. All I can say is that it's very, very sad when you allow your lawyer to accuse your own father of murdering your child. It seems that GA is the only one who ever really cared about her. (I'm not buying this "he molested me" garbage from her.)

I think this will backfire on a jury and just lend itself to seeing the pathetic human being she is and that the world would be much better without her on it. JMO

 

[beach]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24321817/detail.html#

Guess Baez is watching the boards and doing damage control. They're not throwing George under the bus. They're gonna use the info with the suicide attempt to try and save her life....if they're unable to prove her innocence.

I'm not buying Baez's explanation. If ALL they want to use it for is a mitigating factor during the penalty phase, why would they need to investigate it??? It is what it is. George even wrote a 7 (8?) pg. letter. It is not like George is going to deny that he was distraught and what happened, did in fact happen.

Just another Baez explanation that doesn't make any sense.

 

[Pattymarie]

I don't believe the allegations either. I think ICA IS the family SECRET. The way the family circled the wagons tells me they know ICA has serious problems and throughout her short life they saw a continual escalation in her behavior - until this - the murder of little Caylee.

I also believe the family feels enormous guilt and shared responsibility for ICA's behavior - because they don't understand a sociopath, they also don't understand there is nothing they could have done to change her. But I believe they are aware they should have protected Caylee.

And as far as George's attempted suicide assisting ICA during the penalty phase to stop her from receiving the death penalty - a word to Baez. Do your legal case research. It's not going to help one iota! Dufus -as unprepared as always. :banghead:

Your post makes excellent sense...ICA IS the family secret...I never thought of it that way.

 

[ThinkTank]

Originally Posted by RedSox Mom View Post
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24321817/detail.html#

Guess Baez is watching the boards and doing damage control. They're not throwing George under the bus. They're gonna use the info with the suicide attempt to try and save her life....if they're unable to prove her innocence.

If that were the truth why do they need a P.I. to make behind the scene enquiries? Why not just ask GA all about it?

IMO this is only Defense damage control - after seeing the reaction of bloggers to the WFTV story that the Defense investigator has been SERIOUSLY INVESTIGATING George's suicide attempt - getting records and talking to people around the motel ....
The Defense does not want George to get angry and turn on the Defense and say and do things that will hurt her defense. The Defense does not want George to put 2 and 2 together just yet, and figure out that the next Defense theory is going to be that GEORGE killed Caylee, and that is why Inmate Anthony has been sitting in jail, to protect her father and her family.
If the Defense only had plans to use George's suicide in the penalty phase as a victim impact statement FOR Inmate Anthony, all the Defense has to do is put George on the stand to say how all of this has affected him, and that at one point he wanted to die.
I believe the Defense is going to try to use George's suicide attempt as "evidence" of George's consciousness of GUILT for harming Caylee - he couldn't live with what he had done .....

 

[Jenny60123]

Saying 'I love you' to Casey when they are sure the camera is on them is the Anthony equivalent of giving the middle finger to everyone else. It's just another form of insolence toward the Court, the Law and the Public.

I totally agree! In fact I think it could of had the same meaning to ICA. In my opinion it could of been a passive aggressive "I love you". Said after she accused him of molesting her? Yeah, i'm thinking it was meant as a slam to ICA, and to all of the watching/listening public.

 

[Intermezzo]

I am absolutely not surprised. This is actually less appalling than most of Baez's schemes. I do, however, think this "investigation" into George will quietly disappear before anything comes of it. It's another example of the defense grasping at straws. IMO. Only making them look like bigger fools.

PS - Long time lurker, first time poster: Thanks everyone for making this such an interesting and informative place to come!

UESwifey a big

:Welcome-12-june:

 

[Steely Dan]

I don't believe the allegations either. I think ICA IS the family SECRET. The way the family circled the wagons tells me they know ICA has serious problems and throughout her short life they saw a continual escalation in her behavior - until this - the murder of little Caylee.

I also believe the family feels enormous guilt and shared responsibility for ICA's behavior - because they don't understand a sociopath, they also don't understand there is nothing they could have done to change her. But I believe they are aware they should have protected Caylee.

And as far as George's attempted suicide assisting ICA during the penalty phase to stop her from receiving the death penalty - a word to Baez. Do your legal case research. It's not going to help one iota! Dufus -as unprepared as always. :banghead:

I respectfully disagree. I think there is a lot they could do to change her. Starting with disciplining her heavily every time she lied when it became apparent she was becoming a chronic liar. They could have sought out psychological help for her, her mother could have stopped turning a blind eye to things, they could have held her accountable for the things she did.

It seems the one time CA wanted her to learn a hard lesson from her mistake was to make her have Caylee. That was the worst time to try and make up for years of disciplinary neglect. JMO

 

[beach]

IMO this is only Defense damage control - after seeing the reaction of bloggers to the WFTV story that the Defense investigator has been SERIOUSLY INVESTIGATING George's suicide attempt - getting records and talking to people around the motel ....
The Defense does not want George to get angry and turn on the Defense and say and do things that will hurt her defense. The Defense does not want George to put 2 and 2 together just yet, and figure out that the next Defense theory is going to be that GEORGE killed Caylee, and that is why Inmate Anthony has been sitting in jail, to protect her father and her family.
If the Defense only had plans to use George's suicide in the penalty phase as a victim impact statement FOR Inmate Anthony, all the Defense has to do is put George on the stand to say how all of this has affected him, and that at one point he wanted to die.
I believe the Defense is going to try to use George's suicide attempt as "evidence" of George's consciousness of GUILT for harming Caylee - he couldn't live with what he had done .....

BBM

George is already angry....Get even angrier, George!!!

And just in case you're getting dizzy from the smoke and mirrors - 2 + 2 does in fact = 4. It is simple, George.

 

[tlcya]

I respectfully disagree. I think there is a lot they could do to change her. Starting with disciplining her heavily every time she lied when it became apparent she was becoming a chronic liar. They could have sought out psychological help for her, her mother could have stopped turning a blind eye to things, they could have held her accountable for the things she did.

It seems the one time CA wanted her to learn a hard lesson from her mistake was to make her have Caylee. That was the worst time to try and make up for years of disciplinary neglect. JMO

BBM SD, the Thank you button wasn't enough, and no, not just yours, mine as well, and I am sure, many others.

 

[Paintr]

Originally Posted by RedSox Mom View Post
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24321817/detail.html#

Guess Baez is watching the boards and doing damage control. They're not throwing George under the bus. They're gonna use the info with the suicide attempt to try and save her life....if they're unable to prove her innocence.



IMO this is only Defense damage control - after seeing the reaction of bloggers to the WFTV story that the Defense investigator has been SERIOUSLY INVESTIGATING George's suicide attempt - getting records and talking to people around the motel ....
The Defense does not want George to get angry and turn on the Defense and say and do things that will hurt her defense. The Defense does not want George to put 2 and 2 together just yet, and figure out that the next Defense theory is going to be that GEORGE killed Caylee, and that is why Inmate Anthony has been sitting in jail, to protect her father and her family.
If the Defense only had plans to use George's suicide in the penalty phase as a victim impact statement FOR Inmate Anthony, all the Defense has to do is put George on the stand to say how all of this has affected him, and that at one point he wanted to die.
I believe the Defense is going to try to use George's suicide attempt as "evidence" of George's consciousness of GUILT for harming Caylee - he couldn't live with what he had done .....

Another thought to add to your excellent post. Think. I have heard numerous 'talking heads' and read many posts saying that the not reporting her child gone for 31 days is going to be the hardest thing for the defense to explain at trial. Well, here is their explanation. KC didn't tell because she was protecting her Dad. In fact, she is still keeping her mouth shut and sacrificing herself for her beloved family. uke:

 

[ThinkTank]

There is a problem with this. While the defense does not have the burden of proof in presenting alternate theories to the crime, they do have to offer some reasonable degree of evidence that at least indicates that their theory may be possible. So JB cannot simply stand before the court and say "maybe George is a murdering child molestor" anymore than he can simply stang there and claim Caylee was abducted by aliens. He would need to put someone on the stand to say that they have seen George behaving in a certain manner and that there is at least a suspicion that he is such. And really all they have for all of there various other theories of the crime, with the possible exception of RK, is KC. In order to even mention the possibility of a molestation environment don't they have to put KC herself on the stand? Otherwise wouldn't it be a massive ethical violation for a lawyer to stand before the court and make blind unsupported allegations?

I believe the Defense will show that the "escort girls" on the computer were George's ... and further paint George as a skeevy sexual deviant. They will trash his character in the most vile ways. Along with Inmate Anthony's accusations of sexual abuse to her ... the jury will have ample opportunity to view George as a "possible child predator". Put that together with evidence of extra marital affairs and sexual activity outside the marriage - and George is not looking so much like a good guy husband, father, grandfather to the jury.
Then, you've got George saying he was the last one to see Caylee - the duct tape is his - he had contact with the smelley car ..... connect the dots and the TARGET is squarely on George's forehead. IMO

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