2010.07.19 Defense is Investigating George

[Horace Finklestein]

Does anyone think that GA would gladly take the fall for his daughter, KC and go along with all these accusations? Just curious.....

Hmmm well he could twist it into "I'm doing it to save my daughter" in his mind. He may think of himself as a martyr, doing the necessary thing to "save" Casey by not fighting the defense's slime tactics.

I have no clue how on earth attorneys can get away with that trash.

 

[Steely Dan]

I think he has no choice. I think he will remain silent (publicly).
I think that even if he came out strongly, and PUBLICLY denied alllllll the accusations by KC ... it is too late .... the Defense steam roller is already in motion and headed straight for him. Whatever he says now, probably will not negate the heavy accusations the Defense is going to present to the jury, against George.

There is no right answer for GA now. If he denies he looks guilty, if he remains silent he looks guilty. JMO

http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf
page 4

"...And I also know how it feels to be sexually abused. It's taken a long time for me to forgive and I've been somewhat successful in doing so. The worst part is, when I tried to confide in someone before - Jesse, my Mom, they turned on me. I was to blame for my own brother walking into my room at night and feeling my breasts while I slept. I woke up night after night with my sports bra lifted up over my chest or if I had on a regular bra it would be unhooked. Even if I was doing karate in my sleep, that wouldn't have happened. I woke up many times to a flashlight on my face and he would be sitting on my floor, in front of the bed staring at me. This went on for over 3 years before I finally stood up to Lee and told him if he ever came in my room again, I'd kill him. I was 15. It started just before I turned 12. When I told my Mom about it two years ago, she made excuses, saying that he was sleep walking. Not only did she say I was lying, but when I explained everything her reaction was literally like a knife in my chest - "So that's why you're a !!" I don't think having had sex with 7 or 1 people makes me a , but I could be wrong. Over the past few months, I've been having really vivid dreams, and it's obvious that they are dreams of things that have already happened. I think my Dad used to do the same thing to me but when I was much younger. I can see him in my room, exactly the way it was when I was in elementary school, and everything gets fuzzy. But I wake up feeling both sore and sick to my stomach, the way I used to feel growing up. That's part of the reason I haven't been sleeping much or very well lately. Maybe that's part of the reason why I have so much anxiety with my parents. I was able to get passed things with Lee, and it was far from easy. I saw a doctor on my own when I was 18, no one knows that. I went to get help except for you now. I found the courage to finally tell him that I forgive him, and you know he never asked me what I was forgiving him for. I think he must have known that's why we're more friends than brother and sister. It's easier to look to him as my friend, but even with openly forgiving him, part of that pain will always live in me. Not knowing about my dad, it's opened up a whole new case of insecurity and I don't know if I want to know but I think I need to. Please pray for me."

I said this before in a different thread too. If what KC says is true and her mother really did say that to her then it would explain a lot. I have a feeling that when KC was wrapping the duct tape around Caylee's mouth it wasn't Caylee she was seeing, it was her mother. JMO

 

[truckengirl]

It is funny that JB is now stating that he wants to use George's suicide in order to save KC from the death penalty. Why would this be his strategy now because remember he had proof that we would all see at trial. My guess is this:

I think his experts that he brought in told him that your girl's goose is cooked. Why else would he now be spending so much time trying to avoid the death penalty if he can prove she is innocent. I think his expert's might have given him some opinions that he did not want to hear. AND I hope the death smell from KCs car is still in JB and CM's nose.

 

[whiteangora]

Does anyone think that GA would gladly take the fall for his daughter, KC and go along with all these accusations? Just curious.....

Nope.
I may be in the minority, but I've been there before so I can handle how ever this plays out. Maybe we need a poll.

 

[Snaz]

Does anyone think that GA would gladly take the fall for his daughter, KC and go along with all these accusations? Just curious.....

If GA decided to "take the fall" for KC and admitted to sexually molesting her, couldn't he still face charges today?

No, I just don't see GA going that far. I just don't see him having his name sullied in that fashion. He wants everyone to like him....

Now if it's true, then that's another ball of wax.

JMO

 

[erynne936]

Originally Posted by ThinkTank


http://www.wesh.com/download/2010/0406/23069066.pdf
page 4

"...And I also know how it feels to be sexually abused. It's taken a long time for me to forgive and I've been somewhat successful in doing so. The worst part is, when I tried to confide in someone before - Jesse, my Mom, they turned on me. I was to blame for my own brother walking into my room at night and feeling my breasts while I slept. I woke up night after night with my sports bra lifted up over my chest or if I had on a regular bra it would be unhooked. Even if I was doing karate in my sleep, that wouldn't have happened. I woke up many times to a flashlight on my face and he would be sitting on my floor, in front of the bed staring at me. This went on for over 3 years before I finally stood up to Lee and told him if he ever came in my room again, I'd kill him. I was 15. It started just before I turned 12. When I told my Mom about it two years ago, she made excuses, saying that he was sleep walking. Not only did she say I was lying, but when I explained everything her reaction was literally like a knife in my chest - "So that's why you're a !!" I don't think having had sex with 7 or 1 people makes me a , but I could be wrong. Over the past few months, I've been having really vivid dreams, and it's obvious that they are dreams of things that have already happened. I think my Dad used to do the same thing to me but when I was much younger. I can see him in my room, exactly the way it was when I was in elementary school, and everything gets fuzzy. But I wake up feeling both sore and sick to my stomach, the way I used to feel growing up. That's part of the reason I haven't been sleeping much or very well lately. Maybe that's part of the reason why I have so much anxiety with my parents. I was able to get passed things with Lee, and it was far from easy. I saw a doctor on my own when I was 18, no one knows that. I went to get help except for you now. I found the courage to finally tell him that I forgive him, and you know he never asked me what I was forgiving him for. I think he must have known that's why we're more friends than brother and sister. It's easier to look to him as my friend, but even with openly forgiving him, part of that pain will always live in me. Not knowing about my dad, it's opened up a whole new case of insecurity and I don't know if I want to know but I think I need to. Please pray for me."

BBM

Who sleeps with a bra on? Is this common? I certainly don't.

Who wouldn't wake up if someone was unhooking their bra or pulling a sports bra over their head? Those things are tight!

 

[impatientredhead]

Nope.
I may be in the minority, but I've been there before so I can handle how ever this plays out. Maybe we need a poll.

Nobody in this family takes responsibility for anything, so I am a no vote with you.

My only hope is that as the headlights of this bus bore down on both George and Cindy (Cindy will not escape, she will be blamed for not protecting Casey as a child and enabling George's sexual abuse) that they realize they are becoming that third party and it is every man for themselves. Maybe just maybe we will find out what happened that Sunday night and what was said when Casey stormed out of the house.

 

[Omachka]

I see what you are saying .... I just wouldn't underestimate the Defense's ability to spin an event into something that might look like reasonable doubt to a jury. The Defense may be able to convince a jury that George attempted suicide out of shame for whatever the Defense will say (or imply) that George did to Caylee. I don't see this going away any time soon -- I believe the machine is in motion and it is full speed ahead! I believe they have been working on implicating George for some time, and the only reason the public found out about the defense investigator seriously digging into George's suicide is because the P.I. had to submit his bill for services to JAC to get paid.

You could be very right. It is just so easy to underestimate the Defense after watching their performance so far. :eye: That said, I don't think LDB or JA will underestimate them and I think they will be more than ready for this issue. Not only that, with this public, GA may get angry that he is being targeted and any thought he may have had of protecting KC will go right out the window. I believe he has lots of info that would make KC look horrible to the jury if he got angry enough. I think the defense is skating on very thin ice now. Obviously this is just my opinion. Nobody really knows how this is going to play out. Sure is interesting to try and figure it out though. :detective:

 

[nort]

BBM

Who sleeps with a bra on? Is this common? I certainly don't.

Who wouldn't wake up if someone was unhooking their bra or pulling a sports bra over their head? Those things are tight!

I sleep in a bra no biggie but I certainly would know if someone was messing with it..I feel it when my husbands foot crosses the line for gods sake.

 

[Paintr]

You could be very right. It is just so easy to underestimate the Defense after watching their performance so far. :eye: That said, I don't think LDB or JA will underestimate them and I think they will be more than ready for this issue. Not only that, with this public, GA may get angry that he is being targeted and any thought he may have had of protecting KC will go right out the window. I believe he has lots of info that would make KC look horrible to the jury if he got angry enough. I think the defense is skating on very thin ice now. Obviously this is just my opinion. Nobody really knows how this is going to play out. Sure is interesting to try and figure it out though. :detective:

I wonder if George is being fed a steady diet of you are her only hope Obi Wan in order to keep him quiet and not protesting about KC's molestation claims. Maybe thinking it is the only way that KC can be kept from the death penalty, George will refrain from fighting those jail letter claims. They are rather vague.

Then when trial comes and the defense team zeros in on George like a heat seeking missile, it will be too late for George to be believable in his denial.

 

[Dear Prudence]

Baez: Suicide Threats May Help Jury Spare Casey's Life

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/24321817/detail.html

If Baez intends to use George's suicide threat at trial, I wonder if the suicide note will be unsealed?

 

[nums24]

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24328486/detail.html

<snipped>

Conway said the defense's investigation comes as no surprise to him.

"I expected they would investigate George just like any other witness," Conway said. "We've cooperated with the defense and the state attorney's office transparently."

 

[LinasK]

Thank you for finding this information. If it is true that KC sought out help on her own at 18, I would think Baez would call the person who treated her. How did she pay for it? If she was working at the time & had insurance, I would think the state could at least find out the name of the doctor or clinic she used.
I also think Cindy will deny EVER telling KC she was a & being told Lee was abusing her.
The oddest of all is I don't know of anyone who sleeps in a bra except my daughter when pregnant or nursing. Why would she sleep in a bra? Was she even wearing a bra at age 12? Some girls might need one but others could get by with a cami under the clothes.

I had a bra by age 12, and a friend of my daughter's, who is 8 is already in a sports bra.

 

[LinasK]

Casey says in one of her jail letters - When I told my Mom about the abuse (Lee) she didn't believe me, but said - " Is that what made you a ?"

This is just one reason that I believe Casey's molestation allegations- that's a typical reaction victims get, to not even be believed by their own mother when they do tell them what happened.

 

[logicalgirl]

I can envision the Defense coming up with possible motive(s).... such as George having a sexually deviant mindset ..... or being caught in an act that Caylee would tell someone about ..... or having KC threaten to tell on him .... these are just examples of what I believe the Defense "could" conjure up for motive (NOT anything that I believe ever happened).

While it may be proven (?) that George has some kind of sexual deviant mindset, I suspect young people who are somewhat innocent wouldn't even be in his choice range. He appeared to clearly worship Caylee and ICA.

For me, ICA's allegations are just too darned convenient - and if she sought help on her own, I'd have to see that confirmed, because it just doesn't fit her mold at all. Name me one thing that's legal ICA has done to improve her situation, that didn't involve leeching off of someone else, since she was - say - 15? Anyone?

 

[Paintr]

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24328486/detail.html

<snipped>

Conway said the defense's investigation comes as no surprise to him.

"I expected they would investigate George just like any other witness," Conway said. "We've cooperated with the defense and the state attorney's office transparently."

Suuuure you all have, Mr Conway. I believe every word that you say to the media about your clients.

Run George! Run! :croc:

 

[logicalgirl]

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24328486/detail.html

<snipped>

Conway said the defense's investigation comes as no surprise to him.

"I expected they would investigate George just like any other witness," Conway said. "We've cooperated with the defense and the state attorney's office transparently."

I just read your posting of this in Today's Current News - and my thoughts are:

IS THIS MAN ON DRUGS???????? :furious:

 

[whiteangora]

Casey's Defense Investigates George Anthony
Baez Says Team Must 'Investigate Everything'

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/24328486/detail.html

<snipped>

Baez told WESH 2, "We're obligated to investigate everything."

"The loss of Caylee and the pain it has caused the family is very relevant to mitigation," Baez said."

Guess this is JB's way of saying it's a lost cause..........she's gonna be found GUILTY!!

 

[TotallyObsessed]

If GA decided to "take the fall" for KC and admitted to sexually molesting her, couldn't he still face charges today?

No, I just don't see GA going that far. I just don't see him having his name sullied in that fashion. He wants everyone to like him....

Now if it's true, then that's another ball of wax.

JMO

Look, if everyone doesn't think for one minute that the defense team has not had round table discussions with CA and GA about trying to do whatever it takes to save their princess, think again. The real story is that KC is a sociopath, like we have said all along. She told Jesse and Tony the molestation story for real, and she wrote about it in letters to her jail friend. All of this has been revealed over time to JB and Company. Hmmmmm, little tiny brain wheels start turning, and voila.......a defense is born. Like I said before, Lee is young with his life ahead of him...so he wouldn't do. But George, George would be the perfect patsy. He's distanced himself from the family....since the letters came out (or so we think by his non-appearances in court). He is now being investigated by JB and Co. Looks like he will be the one. As to whether or not he has given his blessing to this strategy.......well I for one believe he would DO ANYTHING to get KC off. He could care less about his name being sullied for goodness sake....look at what has happened in the last two years. One more rung down the ladder won't really matter to him anymore.

 

[21merc7]

Hmm, the article on page one of thread states GA and KC were last ones to see Caylee. Duct tape and sticker came from the home. Not good implications here. Hoping they are not trying to pin the murder on GA. I can understand trying to say he moved the remains, but how that would help, I really don't know. I can understand them saying that he is mentally not sound to blow his Grand Jury testimony, however, they will need Court Ordered therapists for both sides to prove that. (Even though most people think that makes you unstable, I am not one of them. 12 jurors could be.) I can see them saying that he did indeed fondle KC when she was small so she murdered her daughter to save her from similar fate (although I think the best bet is she murdered her to save her from CA). Just don't like where this could go, but am certain the State is on it.