2010.07.19 Defense is Investigating George

[Pattymarie]

I think what Casey and her team have in store for George (and the rest of the Anthony's) in the upcoming trial is nothing compared to what she will subject Baez to when she turns on him for losing the fight for her life. If he has exposed himself in any way (and I believe he has) and she knows about it, he can expect that to come out post trial via Casey in some sly or overt way, and no doubt she'll throw in a few damaging fabrications to juice up the story when she does it.

That's the thing about psychopaths you know .. one minute you're taking a walk on the wild side with them at their bidding, and the next thing you're up to your neck in it and they're selling you down the river.

I agree, however, her legal team are not psychopaths, so why are they buying into her crap and not trying to save her life by getting LWOP?

 

[mom2chloe]

Perhaps John Morgan would be interested in representing George. :angel:

George needs Hornsby. MOO

 

[ohiogirl]

Certainly worth a good thought......BUT........If AL were to feel strongly that KC is innocent.....WHY would she have allowed travel expenses to stand in her way????? AL has more talent in her pinky than the current defense team as a whole.

I just don't see her walking away because her flight wasn't covered. It just doesn't fit into her "profile".

I truly believe that AL doesn't think that Casey is innocent. But, she would definitely not come right out and say that. I think she was only involved because she is so against the death penalty. I could see her trying to distance herself from this case because of JB. Makes sense to me.

 

[LambChop]

I think if GA had anything to do with Caylee's death he would have confessed by now just to get KC released. If he thought about ending his life why would he not give his life to save his daughter. He won't confess because it is beyond his comprehension that anyone from the family would do something like that to his precious Caylee. jmo

 

[whiteangora]

I mostly read/lurk these days, but had to sign in just to say that this is an amazing post. I hope that Jo Jo gets to read it. Thanks Beach.

It was amazing and I agree 100% with everything 'Beach said in her post #193.

 

[whiteangora]

Speaking of GA. Did anyone else think there was something different about him at the last hearing? I finally figured out what it was when I saw a picture of he and CA walking away (or to?) from the courthouse-----he's been working out. His arms and shoulders/chest are more buff. That is the behavior of a man who is thinking of divorcing his wife. I've seen it before. Actually men AND women do it. It's kind of like...get your body strong(and looking it's best) first, and then that gives you confidence to go your separate way. Yeah, I think leaving CA is on GA's mind....maybe that was KC's whole plan with the "I dreamt my dad came into my room to ??? when I was little" (not exact quote). Sounds like a KC plan to me.

:cow:

I noticed GA's new physique immediately, his upper arms were almost bulging and his shoulders looked broader, larger chest etc.

 

[miimaa]

No matter what ploy the defense comes up with I want to see how they explain KC lying about having a job for almost two years. The badge, dropping Caylee off at Cindy's work, the work emails, the fake work friends, the need for a nanny, why her fake friend was paying the nanny, the gifts from the nanny, etc.

 

[miimaa]

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I agree, however, her legal team are not psychopaths, so why are they buying into her crap and not trying to save her life by getting LWOP?

IMO they aren't buying into her crap. I believe they only want to make a reputation for themselves of getting high profile offenders off.

 

[miimaa]

I truly believe that AL doesn't think that Casey is innocent. But, she would definitely not come right out and say that. I think she was only involved because she is so against the death penalty. I could see her trying to distance herself from this case because of JB. Makes sense to me.

I agree. JB and CM are fools.

 

[faefrost]

Had a horrid thought last night...I almost don't want to say it...because one I don't believe it for a split second and two I don't want to give them any ideas.

You all don't think they will go with GA molesting Caylee and something went wrong...and KC is covering for him?

(I know if this really was the case KC would have been screaming from the housetops early on)

There is a problem with this. While the defense does not have the burden of proof in presenting alternate theories to the crime, they do have to offer some reasonable degree of evidence that at least indicates that their theory may be possible. So JB cannot simply stand before the court and say "maybe George is a murdering child molestor" anymore than he can simply stang there and claim Caylee was abducted by aliens. He would need to put someone on the stand to say that they have seen George behaving in a certain manner and that there is at least a suspicion that he is such. And really all they have for all of there various other theories of the crime, with the possible exception of RK, is KC. In order to even mention the possibility of a molestation environment don't they have to put KC herself on the stand? Otherwise wouldn't it be a massive ethical violation for a lawyer to stand before the court and make blind unsupported allegations?

 

[iluvmua]

I'll be praying every night that the jury give Casey the Death Penalty.

How could they not after she killed and lied about her daughter etc. and NOW this????? she really really must hate her family. she is an evil nasty woman.

What the heck did her family do to her that was SO bad where she has to result to this?

if anybody deserves the death penalty it is Casey Marie Anthony. :furious:

 

[comomx3]

Not surprised one bit but I don't feel disheartened about this revelation one bit. George attempted suicide. He just lost his granddaughter and his daughter is the murderer. Cindy even attempted it ... so she said via a television show to upstage George. All the prosecution will have to do is put George on the stand. In my opinion (gleaned from another thread) is that all the defense is doing is making it easier for George to say, "I had no choice. I had to tell the truth which ended up hurting my daughter". Look at the way Baez questioned Cindy. Perhaps he was laying groundwork for the main trial but I just don't think he's that smart and clever. Perhaps. My point is- more smoke and mirrors.

 

[faefrost]

I truly believe that AL doesn't think that Casey is innocent. But, she would definitely not come right out and say that. I think she was only involved because she is so against the death penalty. I could see her trying to distance herself from this case because of JB. Makes sense to me.

Guilt or innocence is completely outside of AL's concerns or her crusade. Most of her clients are in fact guilty. She does her work in the sentencing phase, and her crusade is to prevent the DP. LWOP is a huge win for her.

 

[Mendara]

I have no doubt that CA, LA and GA all agreed that if saving KC means that the defense would have to show jurors that any one of them had the same means, opportunity and motive to kill Caylee along with KC, that these people would just take it as a defense tactic and nothing more, they will not internalize it in anyway. As a matter of fact I think LA and GA were already told that the abuse claim was part of the tactic to save KC. Again these people no longer care about how or who killed Caylee - their only focus right now is NOT letting the prosecutors, media etc. WIN. They want to save their daughter and give her the ULTIMATE PASS - they want to continue the behavior of not holding KC responsible for her actions - over the years it has been small things they have let her get away with - things that would bring embarrassment to them so they did everything in their power to make their daughter seem normal.

But this is murder - the murder of a little baby who loved them and looked to them for protection and EVEN SHE - that little angel was not enough to make them hold their daughter accountable for the ultimate sin. They will pay for the rest of their lives for this. Starting with the execution of their own child.

IMO they should have accepted what she had done and advised her to plead guilty, tell the truth and accept her punishment at least then she would be in jail alive and the family would have the opportunity to try to keep and stay together.

I will never understand this family. IHMO

 

[Intermezzo]

http://www.wftv.com/video/24312877/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/news/24313592/detail.html

I wasn't sure at first where the Defense would be going with investigating George's suicide attempt..I had many wild thoughts but it did not seem plausible but then again...the Defense has gone the SODDI route with this case and so it seems clear they still have it on their agenda.

I believe that since the Defense lost the motion to toss out Cindy's 911 tapes they have checked it off the list and have now moved on to getting George's Grand Jury testimony tossed and discrediting him in the process.
:twocents:

 

[AlwaysShocked]

Does anyone think George HAD sexually abused Casey? Does anyone think George was sexually abusing Caylee?

I don't, but I am just wondering if anyone else actually does?

I don't personally have any experience along these lines but have read numerous articles along the way. Is it not true that often times a female victim of sexual abuse by her father may never say anything to anyone about it, but when that victim has her own child - a daughter - it is unlikely she (the original victim) will allow that female child to be around the grandfather alone?

 

[marspiter]

I have no doubt that CA, LA and GA all agreed that if saving KC means that the defense would have to show jurors that any one of them had the same means, opportunity and motive to kill Caylee along with KC, that these people would just take it as a defense tactic and nothing more, they will not internalize it in anyway. As a matter of fact I think LA and GA were already told that the abuse claim was part of the tactic to save KC. Again these people no longer care about how or who killed Caylee - their only focus right now is NOT letting the prosecutors, media etc. WIN. They want to save their daughter and give her the ULTIMATE PASS - they want to continue the behavior of not holding KC responsible for her actions - over the years it has been small things they have let her get away with - things that would bring embarrassment to them so they did everything in their power to make their daughter seem normal.

But this is murder - the murder of a little baby who loved them and looked to them for protection and EVEN SHE - that little angel was not enough to make them hold their daughter accountable for the ultimate sin. They will pay for the rest of their lives for this. Starting with the execution of their own child.

IMO they should have accepted what she had done and advised her to plead guilty, tell the truth and accept her punishment at least then she would be in jail alive and the family would have the opportunity to try to keep and stay together.

I will never understand this family. IHMO

(bold by me)

See I'm not entirely sure if I completely believe this (bolded area). At least from GA. He did write that angry letter to ICA after her abuse allegations and sent it through the jails mail having some knowledge of it's potential release to the public. That one letter from GA makes me ask alot of questions. To me GA seems to walking a fine line in the gray spectrum.

 

[zoey]

Well, CA says she wanted to commit suicide too. She is on disability for her mental condition. Her "I still think Caylee is alive" statement is more fuel for the fire.

Maybe the script has always been just to get the whole family certified and discredit all their testimomy.

It won't change the evidence or slow down that final infusion for the Princess, IMO.:angel:

another thing about CA "suicide attempt"----SHE ONLY WROTE LETTERS.....that to me isn't an attempt of suicide---it is an attempt to garner attention for herself....jmo:twocents:

 

[marspiter]

Does anyone think George HAD sexually abused Casey? Does anyone think George was sexually abusing Caylee?

I don't, but I am just wondering if anyone else actually does?

I don't personally have any experience along these lines but have read numerous articles along the way. Is it not true that often times a female victim of sexual abuse by her father may never say anything to anyone about it, but when that victim has her own child - a daughter - it is unlikely she (the original victim) will allow that female child to be around the grandfather alone?

I do not believe ICA is the victim of sexual abuse at the hands of GA. Thus far everything that has been said by ICA are lies. So why should we believe this one thing in the face of that. I mean this is the same girl that walked down the hall to her "office" with LE.

What I do believe is that there is a certain cause/effect between ICA and Cindy.

 

[Mamabear1963]

Does anyone think George HAD sexually abused Casey? Does anyone think George was sexually abusing Caylee?

I don't, but I am just wondering if anyone else actually does?

I don't personally have any experience along these lines but have read numerous articles along the way. Is it not true that often times a female victim of sexual abuse by her father may never say anything to anyone about it, but when that victim has her own child - a daughter - it is unlikely she (the original victim) will allow that female child to be around the grandfather alone?

I dont believe it for a minute, either KC or Caylee.


On the other...I don't know....probably depends on how she dealt with it herself...but I don't know.