2011.02.07 Shawn Adkins speaks out: 10pm Central KTAB

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  • #221
It seems to me that the modus operandi of SA and BD has been to focus all their energy on attempting to cast doubt on the information in the SW Affidavit, and to attempt to create suspicion against the investigating officers.

IOW - if we are to believe that SA & BD have told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth in their various interviews, then LE must be lying (according to SA & BD).

Somehow, these two individuals (whose accounts have changed numerous times these past weeks) would have everyone believe they are to be trusted & believed over LE.

Hubris, I tell you. It's sheer hubris.
 
  • #222
While typing up the transcript, a few things popped into my head. (First one mainly being that SA has no knowledge of sentence structure and I feel my IQ may have lowered a little), but one thing that stood out to me that at NO time did SA mention the name of the friend that Hailey was supposedly going to spend the night with. He says just a friend.
2nd. Havent we heard that Hailey was in the living room when she told SA she was leaving? According to SA, she went into HIS bedroom.
from transcript:
Then I came home around I guess like 3:00 I got there and Hailey was there watching tv in the living room and I went into me and Billie's bedroom and she came in there and told me she was going to her father's house and staying the night with a friend and then she left.

I noticed that. Also, not sure if this is allowed, but couldn't help noticing the 'frame' above.
 
  • #223
While typing up the transcript, a few things popped into my head. (First one mainly being that SA has no knowledge of sentence structure and I feel my IQ may have lowered a little), but one thing that stood out to me that at NO time did SA mention the name of the friend that Hailey was supposedly going to spend the night with. He says just a friend.
2nd. Havent we heard that Hailey was in the living room when she told SA she was leaving? According to SA, she went into HIS bedroom.
from transcript:
Then I came home around I guess like 3:00 I got there and Hailey was there watching tv in the living room and I went into me and Billie's bedroom and she came in there and told me she was going to her father's house and staying the night with a friend and then she left.
Yes yes yes...in the living room. Never any mention of her going into "me and Billie's bedroom" prior to this. Sounds like yet another freakin' attempt to deflect from the living room and the bloomin' couch!
 
  • #224
I just thought maybe it could be considered harassment or something. Just seemed odd that SA could go around questioning people on what they told LE

I think that's why DD was moved out of the home. I am pretty sure he has been questioned by his mom about what he has told LE so far. She is probably as bad as SA about it.
 
  • #225
Yes yes yes...in the living room. Never any mention of her going into "me and Billie's bedroom" prior to this. Sounds like yet another freakin' attempt to deflect from the living room and the bloomin' couch!

so now, according to the suspects own words, we have Hailey in the bedroom with him prior to the "deer in headlights" timeline
 
  • #226
Despite claims of innocence, Adkins admits he can see why he would be looked at as a suspect.

"I have an idea, but I think it's unfair," noted Adkins. "This could happen to anybody -- what's happening to me. How would they feel if they were in my shoes?"

How about what happening to Hailey???
Who cares what's happening to you SA. If your so innocent why did it take over a month to say so?
You should have been shouting from the roof tops to get the investigation going in the right direction if your so innocent. Why go hide for a month at g-ma's?

If you and BD for that matter love Hailey with all your heart you would not care what people think about your lives and you would lay it on the line to find precious Hailey!
 
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Is that the one where the dispatcher asks him if he knows that he has a warrant? ..and he answers ..yes. Do we know what that warrant was for? I'm so confused..I don't remember hearing that before...

Yes, that's the same call where he says he worried she's suicidal, and that she filed a report against him for threats...don't know what the warrant was for.
 
  • #229
Yes.That morning I drove to work,I quit my job, I turned in my belongings and I didn't speak to nobody at work. I stopped by this residence and nobody was here so I continued going towards C City. I got on I-20 and I went to Big Springs to my mother's house and I made calls on my cellphone to my mom letting her know that I quit my job and everything. I got to my mom's house that day. I got on the internet looking up unemployment to see if I could get, uh, you know, an unemployment check until I could get back on my feet and everything. That was my day. Then I came home around I guess like 3:00 I got there and Hailey was there watching tv in the living room and I went into e and Billie's bedroom and she came in there and told me she was going to her father's house and staying the night with a friend and then she left. And then I was there by myself for maybe an hour at the most. And then Dxxxx and a friend came over and they went to his room and they were playing video games and so forth. And Billie called me and told me that her relief got there and she was gonna get to leave a little early so I was up there at the hospital in Snyder around 6:00 to pick her up and then came back. And then we went to bed shortly after that.

BBM. I wish someone would ask SA more detailed questions...like why he quit his job in the first place. He said he 'quit' his job and turned in his belongings but says he didn't talk to anyone there?? Wouldn't he want his last paycheck?? I don't think he 'quit' that day, He just left and didn't have a good excuse for leaving so he didn't say anything at all...IMO, whatever urges he had became to hard to resist and he had to go back home where HD was.

Notice how he emphasizes that he was only alone for an hour before DD came home, but he left out the part where DD had to climb through the window because he wouldn't open the door.

He says that got home at 6pm and went to bed shortly after.
From the timeline... "Billie Jean Dunn and Adkins arrive back at Dunn's home in Colorado City, she tells the Reporter-News on Wednesday. They watch movies before going to be around 10 p.m., she says.

Although the inconsistencies in what time they went to bed may be irrelevant, IMO, 10pm is not shortly after 6pm. Did he forget they watched movies? I'm having a hard time keeping up with their stories.
 
  • #230
BBM. I wish someone would ask SA more detailed questions...like why he quit his job in the first place. He said he 'quit' his job and turned in his belongings but says he didn't talk to anyone there?? Wouldn't he want his last paycheck?? I don't think he 'quit' that day, He just left and didn't have a good excuse for leaving so he didn't say anything at all...IMO, whatever urges he had became to hard to resist and he had to go back home where HD was.

Notice how he emphasizes that he was only alone for an hour before DD came home, but he left out the part where DD had to climb through the window because he wouldn't open the door.

He says that got home at 6pm and went to bed shortly after.
From the timeline... "Billie Jean Dunn and Adkins arrive back at Dunn's home in Colorado City, she tells the Reporter-News on Wednesday. They watch movies before going to be around 10 p.m., she says.

Although the inconsistencies in what time they went to bed may be irrelevant, IMO, 10pm is not shortly after 6pm. Did he forget they watched movies? I'm having a hard time keeping up with their stories.
Plus he compeltely left out the ATM wihdrawals AND the lil "party supplies" stop.
 
  • #231
so now, according to the suspects own words, we have Hailey in the bedroom with him prior to the "deer in headlights" timeline

And only 45 minutes before as well. And something else that SA and BD have crammed into that 45 minute window is his call to Billie, telling her Hailey went to Clint's and then to a friend's sleepover. Pretty busy 45 minutes there. At which point did he lock up the house? Before or after Hailey supposedly disappeared?
 
  • #232
Stay tuned for Part III - SA and BD living happily ever after together even tho HD is still missing.

Seems that interview was edited, the whole 3 something minutes of it *banging head* Now SA will complain that the interview was cut and paste.

Just wish we could get our hands on the recordings from the interviews LE had with all members involved. Does anyone know if/when LE might release these interviews to the public or when they may show up on YTube?
 
  • #233
I still wonder at the odd behavior Monday when he only was at WSI for ten minutes and claimed he didn't speak to anyone. I believe that part is true, as his boss told LE that SA looked at him and then left with a DR. P in his hand. Why did he go there? If he quit, did he leave a letter of resignation, since he didn't speak to anyone. What day of the week are the coveralls laundered? Did they have employee names sewn on them?
Was there a front and rear exit to the building, and were there security cameras in operation? How many pair of coveralls per employee and were all of his accounted for?
Were the company dumpsters behind locked gates, and were any cameras on them?
Can anyone walk into that building during working hours, and do they need any sort of electronically coded badge or card key to enter?
There is just something wrong with this day, and I don't think he planned to walk in there and then leave. The "quitting" makes no sense, something had to have entered his mind after he got there. Something so obvious to him to cause his odd behavior. Why get up that early and drive all that way to return coveralls, when a phone call would have sufficed? Who did he usually report to for job assignments? Seeing as how he spoke to nobody that morning to say "take this job and shove it?" has he been terminated. Are any tools unaccounted for, has any check for company vehicles, etc. been done? How much company territory was accessible to SA, and is any within public access. Night lights, cameras?

ETA: I am sorry for repetition - I discovered another question "Why SA went to work Monday for 10 minutes" and it fits my post to a T so I copied this over to it.
 
  • #234
So what did he do, lock the door behind Hailey? Why would he need to do that?

And again, it is mentioned, this time by SA, that H often stayed overnight with friends and at her dad's. I've not heard anything about her staying at any other friends houses from anyone else, only that MB's mom said she never stayed there. Wouldn't she be more likely to stay at her best friend's house if she slept over at friends' houses?
 
  • #235
I have a question
from the transcript
SA (6:34) No, that's incorrect too. I had a talk with that uncle and he said he never said that either and I never said that.

I don't know a thing about law, but is it legal for a suspect to question a witness about his statement in an affidavit?

Yes, that's really strange. He shouldn't even be in contact with Hailey's family, but he has no sense of propriety apparently. Or right and wrong. Or boundaries. :(

Also, I noticed in the transcript it says "Clint's Uncle" told police about the "killing a deer" remark, and that's incorrect on the part of the interviewer. It was BD's brother, Hailey's Uncle. Just today I've seen blogs and articles that talked about SA's Uncle being the one who told police that, and I got confused myself. So much misinformation about this case!
 
  • #236
LOL,I know! ..and she or Shawn expect the masses...or better yet, a jury to believe that? ..:floorlaugh:..
Apparently they think memories are like tapes: If you don't like version 1, rewind and record version 2. Well, it doesn't work that way, SA and BD. Folks (especially folks with drug-free brains) remember what they see and read and can make comparisons between versions, no matter how many versions you throw at us. You can call everyone else in the world liars (and you pretty much have), but you are contradicting your own recorded words, and you are contradicting each other. At this point, if these two told me I have blue eyes, I'd run to the mirror and wonder when my eyes turned green.

Sheesh.
 
  • #237
REPORTER: So you’re saying the affidavits, the majority of what we read in there, is completely incorrect?

SHAWN ADKINS: Yes

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01-16-2011, 01:23 AM
czgtz

OK, I reread the affidavits.

The only thing I see that Billie is disputing is the new year's eve party.

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6017208&postcount=224"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #25[/ame]
 
  • #238
Quoted from a post by lynnb-- Interview with Tiffany Tatro 2/8/2011-1st part
(EDITED BY PENELOPE...)

"TT: (2:36) Now you just said right now that you quit your job but originally, but you had said that you got into a fight with a boss and was fired from your job.
SA: (2:44) Ah...that was untrue too. I told investigators I quit my job but I told Billie that I got fired because I didn't want her knowing I quit my job. I was trying to keep it from her but investigators found out that I didn't get fired cuz Billie had told them that originally and then they brought that up to me and I was like, yeah, I quit my job for reasons, and I just didn't tell Billie for fear it would cause a big fight and I didn't wanna ruin the peace that's been happening over the past 6 months. I just wanted to keep the peace, try to find another job, and then let her know.
than that.
"

See area above that was bolded by me. Notice how SA's statement mirrors the statement by BD about how (I paraphrase because I cannot find to original link) their relationship has been "awesome" for the last 6 months.

IMO I can't imagine that the thought "I don't want to ruin the peace that has been happening over the past 6 months" was what was going through SA's head when he gave BD a different story than LE. This statement does lead me to believe that he (and maybe he and BD) are modifying the facts to fit what has been said by BD. It shows me that they are working together on what is now going out to the public. MOO!
 
  • #239
Yes,but in light of some other things to go out of state wouldn't go over too well,that's what FBI is for in these cases.

He has made mention of Canada too. Not going to say that doesn't get my hinky up....if was a planned parental abduction to get her out of that house. imo
 
  • #240
Quoted from a post by lynnb-- Interview with Tiffany Tatro 2/8/2011-1st part
(EDITED BY PENELOPE...)

"TT: (2:36) Now you just said right now that you quit your job but originally, but you had said that you got into a fight with a boss and was fired from your job.
SA: (2:44) Ah...that was untrue too. I told investigators I quit my job but I told Billie that I got fired because I didn't want her knowing I quit my job. I was trying to keep it from her but investigators found out that I didn't get fired cuz Billie had told them that originally and then they brought that up to me and I was like, yeah, I quit my job for reasons, and I just didn't tell Billie for fear it would cause a big fight and I didn't wanna ruin the peace that's been happening over the past 6 months. I just wanted to keep the peace, try to find another job, and then let her know.
than that.
"

See area above that was bolded by me. Notice how SA's statement mirrors the statement by BD about how (I paraphrase because I cannot find to original link) their relationship has been "awesome" for the last 6 months.

IMO I can't imagine that the thought "I don't want to ruin the peace that has been happening over the past 6 months" was what was going through SA's head when he gave BD a different story than LE. This statement does lead me to believe that he (and maybe he and BD) are modifying the facts to fit what has been said by BD. It shows me that they are working together on what is now going out to the public. MOO!

Or it could be that both of them are telling the truth about what happened with his job.
If my husband walked out of a perfectly good job, he wouldn't want to tell me either because he knows I would be angry. And he knows that if he told me he was fired, my anger would be directed at his boss, not at him.
Shawn apparently wanted Billie to be mad at the boss for firing him... not at him for quitting.
 
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