2011.04.01 Frye Hearing (DISCUSSION THREAD) - AM edition

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  • #721
Witness - Milk, cheese

Baez - Would it be caused by velveeta cheese?

Witness - Yes, I see velveeta cheese was in the garbage.
 
  • #722
OMG.....the velveeta and coconut shampoo did it.
 
  • #723
kf the crux of the challenge is there are not scientific agreement on what is in the human decomp

jb what are fatty acids
kf class of compounds from living things - human or animal origin - ie glass of milk

jb dr vass talks about 4 fatty acids - are those found in human decomp only or others
kf these compounds are found in everyday consumer products - not unique to human decomp - found in milkfat, butter, cheese,

jb in velveeta cheese
kf sure - i do see a velveeta package

jb is it found in coconut shampoo
kf don't know for certain what is in coconut shampoo

jb in adipocere?
 
  • #724
Baez asking the witness about fatty acids and what causes them.

Living things.

velveeta cheese and coconut milk....that's what ICA left in the garbage...
 
  • #725
now they're trying the velveeta cheese thing. okay, JB, if the baby was never found you might have a snowball's chance...BUT HER BODY WAS FOUND. she clearly WAS deceased and WAS in the car!


how can anyone defend this? how can they TRY? I could never live with myself!
 
  • #726
10 min recess.
 
  • #727
I was really trying to listen and understand what this witness is saying. Really trying to understand the argument the defense is making-like a juror...all it does is make me want to :pullhair:

I agree. And Furton is no Dr. Vass, however I think the biggest problem is that JB is HORRIBLE at examining an expert witness. Probably because he doesn't have a clue himself!
 
  • #728
10 min recess
 
  • #729
Squirrels, Pizza, Soda....Velveeta cheese..

I just yelled at my laptop and my children looked at me like I am nuts...
 
  • #730
I understand that, but in the interim, we are essentially going to hear this crap all over again. Why not stop the hearing, let the prosecution do what they are entitled to do and reconvene?
BBM

Because it's highly likely that HHJP has researched this and has already decided in favour of the State, so allowing this witness to testify removes the chance of the defence trying to make this an appellate issue if KC is convicted.

It's just legal chess.

My opinions only.
 
  • #731
Recess!
 
  • #732
I'm never eating cheese again. I'm never drinking soda again. I'm never shampoo'ing my hair with coconut shampoo!! Good lord, what do they put in these products to make it consistent with Human decomposition?

Can we live off just water?
 
  • #733
JB - if you found these four chemicals would you render opinion that it is adipocere
JA - objection (overruled)
recess (10 min
 
  • #734
ohhh now i understand it all makes sense now. it was a squirrel wrapped in velveeta cheese!!

And he washed his fur with coconut shampoo don't cha' know???
 
  • #735
HHJP: before the question is answered this will be a good time to take a 10 min recess
 
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BBM

Because it's highly likely that HHJP has researched this and has already decided in favour of the State, so allowing this witness to testify removes the chance of the defence trying to make this an appellate issue if KC is convicted.

It's just legal chess.

My opinions only.

I hope you are correct!
 
  • #738
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kc self soothes - rubbing her upper arm - feigning pain, hugging self while waiting for her lawyer appointed buddy babysitter to come sit with her
 
  • #740
HHJP let JB question the witness, even though he signed that paper stating that he wouldn't.

Can JA now bring back sanctions now?
 
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