2011.04.28 Nancy Grace covering Caylee.

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ter·pene
   /ˈtɜrpin/ Show Spelled[tur-peen] Show IPA
–noun Chemistry .
1.
(originally) any of a class of monocyclic hydrocarbons of the formula C 10 H 16 , obtained from plants.

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So is LP saying this was found in the AIR sample? He made it sound like it was an actual physical visible plant or bug...but it's a compound?


Terpenes are basically the majority of what Orange Essential Oil is composed of. Lime, lemon, pine oils also contain a large amount. BUT, it's really "oily", in nature, by itself. Think products that help restore "luster" to old wood, etc. I'm using "Goo Gone" now to remove adhesive from my shower - those darn non-slip decals...it's verrrrry "oily", so I would venture to say, IMO, it's probably straight Orange Terps.
In the "cleaning" products (Pine Sol, etc), essential oils are combined with "solvents", so the terpenes don't leave that "oily" residue, and an "actual" cleaning component, so to speak, for things like dirt....the "terpenes" (from the added Essential Oil) are what would help with removing the "other" type of gunk....and helps it smell "purdy" and give the consumer the feeling they've "cleaned" that area.
IIRC, terpenes were found in the trunk liner or under the fender (?) - like in an area similar to where our friend "Mr. Squirrel" was said to be "pryed" off of...the amount of terpenes from "plant" growth wouldn't be high enough to see the terpene "peaks" on the GC/MS. That has ALWAYS stymied me as to the comments, IIRC, in the report that the "terpenes" found could be from plants/foliage and weren't attributed to seepage from a citrus based cleaner used in the trunk.
Sorry for babbling...frushtrated Flavor Chemist syndrome.

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The REAL point:

What has ALWAYS "stymied" me even more....why is LP soooo focused on the darn terpenes....does he like the way it rolls off his tongue??? Nobody else...I mean NOBODY else has even mentioned them again. He reminds me of the little dog that bit the mailmans leg and won't give up, no matter how hard he shakes his leg. I'm pretty positive he's still talking about them due to his theory of KC driving the car thru the bushes/plants in the wooded area where Caylee was found.
AND that darn "daisy chain"....aaaaack!!


(sorry Aedrys, posted after you...but was in the process of typing, so didn't look at other posts)
 
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"NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight in the search for 2-year-old Florida girl, Caylee. Six months of searching culminate when skeletal remains found in a heavily wooded area just 15 houses from the Anthony home confirmed to be Caylee. A utility meter reader stumbles on a tiny human skeleton, including a skull covered in light-colored hair, the killer duct taping and placing a heart-shaped sticker directly over the mouth, then triple bagging little Caylee like she`s trash.

Bombshell tonight. In the last hours, the trial judge rules chloroform found in tot mom`s car trunk will come into evidence, along with home computer searches for homemade chloroform, fatal accidents in the home, how to make weapons from household items, and even a computer search on how to give the knockout drug chloroform a sweet taste and smell to its victim -- i.e., 2-year-old Caylee. The jury will hear it all."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1104/28/ng.01.html

Did we know this ~ about the sweet taste and smell? I thought the computer search was only on how to make chloroform. If it is true, it seems pretty important because it would have been done specifically to make it easier to administer to Caylee, imo. Does anyone have any more details on this?

Wow, I had never heard that, and I thought I'd read pretty much everything. Anyone?

Did a little searching and discovered that you don't have to "make" it that way as chloroform is naturally sweet. Apparently the quote is just a little more Nancy-speak.

"It is nonflammable and has a pleasant odor and a burning, sweet taste. Chloroform is about 40 times as sweet as sugar."

Read more: Chloroform - used, first, anesthetic, blood, body, Anesthetic Chloroform, Simpson Discovers Chloroforms Potency http://www.discoveriesinmedicine.com/Bar-Cod/Chloroform.html#ixzz1KvLkf9Sy
 
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BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST, AUTHOR OF "DEALBREAKERS": Well, of course it violate it is rules and what I`m seeing is that as long as Caylee was alive their primary loyalty was to the granddaughter. They were realistic about their daughter. They knew she was a pathological liar, they knew she was not maternally connected to her own child but once Caylee disappeared and it was clear that she was deceased and not coming back, their loyalty shifted to their child.

And that maternal and paternal instinct to protect one`s child at all costs is going to shade what they say in that courtroom. And also to the potential jurors it`s going to tell them that these parents sort of feel arrogant and above the law, and they`re not going to like that too much when the whole story starts to unfold.


Dr. Bethany, if in fact tot mom is guilty, which many people believe she is, why is she putting her parents through this?

MARSHALL: You know, that`s going to look bad to the jurors, too. Isn`t it? It shows complete lack of empathy towards them and when you put the totality of evidence -- Dr. Leigh and Anne Bremner were right. They`re thinking like potential jurors.

If it`s just chloroform in the trunk, the jurors are going to say, well, maybe she used the chloroform as a babysitter and that doesn`t prove homicide but when you take the fact that she threw her own parents under the bus, that she put a heart -- that someone put a heart-shaped sticker on this little girl`s duct tape, that someone researched neck breaking, they`re going to think that is one sick mother.


GRACE: Out to Pat Brown, criminal profiler and author of "The Profiler," weigh in, Pat. What do you think?

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER, AUTHOR OF "THE PROFILER": Well, I agree with Bethany there. I think the judge did a wonderful thing which even if the jurors don`t really understand half of the stuff that the experts throw out they`ve got the information about what happened.

Because we`re looking at a trajectory of a crime, we`re looking at ideation, planning, carrying the crime out, the cover-up and then moving on like going off and dancing. So what we want to see is all of the events and Casey at each one of the intersections of those events, and they can say wait a minute, you know there`s no big hole in here. We can see it all play out. She`s guilty.


I believe these experts have a feel for WHO CA/GA are...they have them pegged...I await their rude awakening....

ICA should have her lead attorney run as fast as he can to get her a deal for LWOP....that's better than death for ICA...JMHO

Justice for Caylee
 
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