2011.05.20 On a Scale of 1 to 10 How do you Feel About this Jury?

[runsdeep]

I feel that way too only I think everything was rushed from start to finish. A person might have throught the judge's pants were on fire he was rushing so fast. I remember hearing about jury selection and how hurried it was. Seems like everyone and anyone was selected with his approval. I wondered if Baes wouldn't have used that for a re-trial if he had lost. Now I just wish the media would forget about Casey Anthony. I'm so sick of them having to examine every single thing she might do or is doing. If she hadn't murdered Caylee no one would even know her name! And she's proud of being well known...loves all the attention and the press is sure feeding the witch,

my impression is that perry gave both sides mostly the time they wanted to present. once the trial was handed to the defense, were so many lengthy delays with jurors sitting idle that he had to give them a limit.

jurors agreed to up to 8 weeks of service and they didnt go that long. they still, per agreement, had more time to deliberate and if found guilty stay for punishment assessment.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I'm still as mad and upset at these 12 as the day of the verdict. I will never get of the injustice done in this case.
Have their names ever been published yet? Not that I care. Just don't want them hiding out for the rest of their lives. Own up to the crappy job they did. Stand up and be counted if that is how you feel. Are are you ashamed of what you did?

 

[PeteyGirl]

To a point, I very much agree with you about the dumbing down of America, particularly in relation to basic Civics; something in which we should all be well-versed.

But the part that I disagree with is that even if this Jury would have been well-versed and educated, the verdict was more about pure laziness than it was education and I partially fault Judge Perry for that. He rushed the selection of this Jury so much that he completely ignored the fact that he had sitting Jurors on this chosen panel who were honest enough to inform him that they had upcoming plans of cruises, etc.

Judge Perry attempted to poo-poo that away claiming, "Oh we'll be done by then", and look what happened. What, the case was completed a mere few days prior to this person's cruise and other Jurors who had set plans. They still had the Penalty Phase, and they knew it.

This Jury wasn't stupid, they just chose the easy way out. They put their own plans ahead of the justice for Caylee, knowing they would have to be held longer if they rightfully convicted her. I've seen a lot of talk about what the State didn't present, but no matter how much longer this case would have gone with the State presenting everything possible, there was no way this Jury was going to convict.

As was the case in her life as well as her death, selfishness won and Caylee lost. Again.

Oh definitely! I've gone on and on about how the jury relinquished their responsibility with excuses and rationalizations to cover up for their lack of willingness to WORK.

It is clearly not just a problem of "education", I believe it is MORESO a problem of character. The dumbing down of America could include the wimping out of America.

What I really think is the jury was selected FOR these traits. And then the defense team proceeded carefully to exploit the jurists inherent laziness and arrogance. He had them completely distracted from the state's case by the end of the trial. The jurists who've spoken out admit this openly.

 

[SailorMoon]

In hindsight, I feel crappy about this jury!! LET'S GO FOR A MISTRIAL. How little did we know, how little did we know.

I never will forget the feeling I had watching/listening to the verdict read. Never.

Pinellas County 12 - you missed it. Bigtime.

 

[Dignity4Victims]

An implication of Jury Tampering? Interesting!

The Casey Anthony Jurors: An American Disgrace…by Linda Paris

"To the Jurors:

Let me make one thing clear to all 12 of you. Your life as you knew it is over. You will forever go down in history as an American disgrace. You will now have to live with what you have done and people’s reaction to your dirty deed. My hope is that some of you end up in prison when this is over because it is my belief that something very wrong happened in that jury room. Something punishable by law. Something that should land some of you in a federal prison for a few years."

Much more at the link......

http://worldinfohub.net/2011/08/30/the-casey-anthony-jurors-an-american-disgrace-by-linda-paris/

 

[LCoastMom]

An implication of Jury Tampering? Interesting!

The Casey Anthony Jurors: An American Disgrace…by Linda Paris

"To the Jurors:

Let me make one thing clear to all 12 of you. Your life as you knew it is over. You will forever go down in history as an American disgrace. You will now have to live with what you have done and people’s reaction to your dirty deed. My hope is that some of you end up in prison when this is over because it is my belief that something very wrong happened in that jury room. Something punishable by law. Something that should land some of you in a federal prison for a few years."

Much more at the link......

http://worldinfohub.net/2011/08/30/the-casey-anthony-jurors-an-american-disgrace-by-linda-paris/

Wow, Ms Paris needs to tell us how she really feels!

 

[strawberry]

I'm watching NG on and they are covering a baby that was found in a grocery store trash can. The poor clerk who called 911 sounded very young. She was asked if the baby is alive and she said "I don't know they just told me to call". Then she completely loses it..starts sobbing and begging them to hurry...this is a young woman who reacts the way and more that you would expect. How did this jury not put the pieces together? HOW? FCA partied and acted normally...that's what the "lying and " testimony was about, not her being a lying ! That she was acting FINE! It just makes me so mad.

 

[strawberry]

In hindsight, I feel crappy about this jury!! LET'S GO FOR A MISTRIAL. How little did we know, how little did we know.

I never will forget the feeling I had watching/listening to the verdict read. Never.

Pinellas County 12 - you missed it. Bigtime.

Me neither..when I heard the first NG, I thought well, OK I guess it's manslaughter..then disbelief as the next NGs were read. I just sat there stunned but obviously others at work watching too because we were all in an uproar within minutes.

When OJ was acquited I worked at a small branch office. We actually brought a tv in to watch the verdict. It was very similar but not as emotional.

 

[Sustained]

An implication of Jury Tampering? Interesting!

The Casey Anthony Jurors: An American Disgrace…by Linda Paris

"To the Jurors:

Let me make one thing clear to all 12 of you. Your life as you knew it is over. You will forever go down in history as an American disgrace. You will now have to live with what you have done and people’s reaction to your dirty deed. My hope is that some of you end up in prison when this is over because it is my belief that something very wrong happened in that jury room. Something punishable by law. Something that should land some of you in a federal prison for a few years."

Much more at the link......

http://worldinfohub.net/2011/08/30/the-casey-anthony-jurors-an-american-disgrace-by-linda-paris/

Quotes from Ms. Paris like this one really make you wonder what was going on in the jury room ...

You are supposed to sit down together and figure out what it means when every police officer on the scene, including Casey’s own family, cadaver dogs, independent witnesses and SCIENCE put a dead body in the trunk of Casey’s car…at the exact time her daughter was missing!!! That fact alone is overwhelming evidence of her guilt and the fact that she lied to everyone should have been the end of the trial! You want us all to believe you were too stupid to figure that out? Don’t believe it.

Did you ever stop to think that in order for her to be “not guilty” of any of the charges the entire Orlando Police department, had to be lying? Yet you expect the public to believe that you are all 12 so feeble minded that you chose to believe the biggest liar in modern day history? Not buying it.

 

[NavySubMom]

Me neither..when I heard the first NG, I thought well, OK I guess it's manslaughter..then disbelief as the next NGs were read. I just sat there stunned but obviously others at work watching too because we were all in an uproar within minutes.

When OJ was acquited I worked at a small branch office. We actually brought a tv in to watch the verdict. It was very similar but not as emotional.

Somewhere today on WS I was reading about how juror's are always polled after the verdict (forget the exact discussion/thread), I honestly did not even remember that happening after this FCA verdict travesty. I was so in shock that the 1st 3 charges were all NG. I remember calling my Mom and we were both in shock, and I said "did JP even poll the jury, did they all agree?" and she had to tell me that they did.

Then I watched the re-run and heard the jurors being polled. If I remember correctly the first juror in error said "No", it was not her verdict, but then when re-asked she said "Yes" it was. I almost thought for a minute not all 12 would say it was their verdict. Wishful thinking at the time. IMO, MOO, etc.

 

[Little Black Dress]

Somewhere today on WS I was reading about how juror's are always polled after the verdict (forget the exact discussion/thread), I honestly did not even remember that happening after this FCA verdict travesty. I was so in shock that the 1st 3 charges were all NG. I remember calling my Mom and we were both in shock, and I said "did JP even poll the jury, did they all agree?" and she had to tell me that they did.

Then I watched the re-run and heard the jurors being polled. If I remember correctly the first juror in error said "No", it was not her verdict, but then when re-asked she said "Yes" it was. I almost thought for a minute not all 12 would say it was their verdict. Wishful thinking at the time. IMO, MOO, etc.

It's interesting to think that might have been the classic "Freudian slip". Just sayin'. Hey, in this crazy case, anything's possible. JMO.

 

[NavySubMom]

It's interesting to think that might have been the classic "Freudian slip". Just sayin'. Hey, in this crazy case, anything's possible. JMO.

I concur (isn't that what it was reported someone heard OffenderCA say after getting off of one of her recent private plane excursions?).

As much as I get more sickened, if that is even possible, every time a juror speaks, I wish one of them would come out with what really happened in there. I really want to know why most of them did not take any, or very few notes. I remember many many TH's saying all during the trial, "they aren't taking any notes!" How on earth did they think they were going to remember all of the testimony? why no notes? how could they know at the very beginning of the trial that they were not going to need to remember anything?????

UGH, I become ill every time I think of this verdict.

IMO, MOO.

 

[Dignity4Victims]

I concur (isn't that what it was reported someone heard OffenderCA say after getting off of one of her recent private plane excursions?).

As much as I get more sickened, if that is even possible, every time a juror speaks, I wish one of them would come out with what really happened in there. I really want to know why most of them did not take any, or very few notes. I remember many many TH's saying all during the trial, "they aren't taking any notes!" How on earth did they think they were going to remember all of the testimony? why no notes? how could they know at the very beginning of the trial that they were not going to need to remember anything?????

UGH, I become ill every time I think of this verdict.
IMO, MOO.

Take solace in the fact that in many, many ways, the "life sentence" Casey received is far worse for her than being behind bars. In prison, she would acclimate to her surroundings.

She will never acclimate to her very, very limited "freedom". Giving her the benefit of the doubt of being "human", which is subject to opinion in itself, human beings innately need to trust, to love and feel reciprocal love.

No matter how much money Casey ever reaps through the blood of Caylee Marie Anthony, there is no truer adage that money does not buy happiness, but especially inner happiness with oneself.

It may not be now, tomorrow or next month, but Casey Marie Anthony will undoubtedly wish she did not have this life sentence that she will never escape.

 

[bayouland]

Take solace in the fact that in many, many ways, the "life sentence" Casey received is far worse for her than being behind bars. In prison, she would acclimate to her surroundings.

She will never acclimate to her very, very limited "freedom". Giving her the benefit of the doubt of being "human", which is subject to opinion in itself, human beings innately need to trust, to love and feel reciprocal love.

No matter how much money Casey ever reaps through the blood of Caylee Marie Anthony, there is no truer adage that money does not buy happiness, but especially inner happiness with oneself.

It may not be now, tomorrow or next month, but Casey Marie Anthony will undoubtedly wish she did not have this life sentence that she will never escape.

BBM. A thank you was not enough. Your post made me feel better about this than I have so far. Thanks again.

 

[Dignity4Victims]

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BBM. A thank you was not enough. Your post made me feel better about this than I have so far. Thanks again.

You're more than welcome. I'm not any smarter than the next person, but it's a fact that we all take daily relationships for granted on some level. We trust that our friends really are true to us; something Casey will always doubt. She will always wonder if her friends are only out for her money, which she at some point will make.

She won't ever experience the personal closeness of making love for the right reason and trust that mate not to just perceive her to be what Baez called her during the trial. Worse yet, her friends, as well as any love-relationship she may ever enter, will likely only enter that relationship for the sick, twisted "fame" of being somehow connected to someone of her horrid, macabre notoriety.

Money can not buy you happiness, health, friends, self-worth or truism.

This Jury did Casey no favors. Sometimes we all have to step back and focus on our daily lives to see the small blessings that Casey will never have.

 

[lauriej]

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Then I watched the re-run and heard the jurors being polled. If I remember correctly the first juror in error said "No", it was not her verdict, but then when re-asked she said "Yes" it was. I almost thought for a minute not all 12 would say it was their verdict. Wishful thinking at the time. IMO, MOO, etc.

..i absolutely remember that-----for one fleeting (hopeful!!) moment, i thought the verdict might be incorrect...!

..juror #1 couldn't even answer a simple---yes or no---question ..good grief.

..( and now that we know what we do about----hold out juror #2---his "yes" is rather feeble. )

http://www.wftv.com/video/28452455/index.html
--@ approx. 5:25 the jury is polled--

..judgeP : "madame clerk, you may poll the jury".

..madame clerk : "juror #1, were these your true and correct verdicts?"
..juror #1 : "pardon"?

..madame clerk : "juror #1, were these your true and correct verdicts?"
..juror #1 : "not guilty".

..madame clerk : "were they all your true and correct verdicts?"
..juror #1 : "yes."

 

[Well Done 99]

Worse yet, her friends, as well as any love-relationship she may ever enter, will likely only enter that relationship for the sick, twisted "fame" of being somehow connected to someone of her horrid, macabre notoriety.

+respectfully snipped+


........... until someone gets her pregnant, then it's panic time!
Thanks Dignity. I enjoy reading the opinions and points of view of others here on WS.

 

[deanna82437]

..i absolutely remember that-----for one fleeting (hopeful!!) moment, i thought the verdict might be incorrect...!

..juror #1 couldn't even answer a simple---yes or no---question ..good grief.

..( and now that we know what we do about----hold out juror #2---his "yes" is rather feeble. )

[B]http://www.wftv.com/video/28452455/index.html[/B]
--@ approx. 5:25 the jury is polled--

..judgeP : "madame clerk, you may poll the jury".

..madame clerk : "juror #1, were these your true and correct verdicts?"
..juror #1 : "pardon"?

..madame clerk : "juror #1, were these your true and correct verdicts?"
..juror #1 : "not guilty".

..madame clerk : "were they all your true and correct verdicts?"
..juror #1 : "yes."

BBM I simply could NOT watch that video .. it hurt way too much the first time! :noooo:

 

[wonders]

+respectfully snipped+


........... until someone gets her pregnant, then it's panic time!
Thanks Dignity. I enjoy reading the opinions and points of view of others here on WS.

THAT is the scarest thought of all.
If there is a God then this horrible woman will never again be blessed with another child to murder.

 

[everyoneneedsavoice]

I'm watching the verdict from the Tommy Carleton trial (recorded) on InSession and after the verdict of guilty was read the defense asked that the jury be polled. Each juror was asked if this was their vote and did they feel threatened or coerced into making that vote.

I recall each juror being asked if this was their vote ,in the Anthony trial ,but were they asked if they felt coerced?
I was in shock and may have missed it.
Either way they now get a -10 from me .

BBM

No...these jurors were only asked if this was their true and correct verdicts. There weren't any further questions about being coerced. Interesting that the Carlton jurors were asked about being coerced...wonder if that's standard? Probably varies by court...still interesting.

Wonder what responses these jurors (whom I rate a -10) would have given?