2011.05.28 - KC upset during break when CA testifies

[Kimster]

Do you guys think it was seeing CA go off with GA in an embrace that set her off, like was reported earlier today? If so, why did that get her going?

 

[BigFatMommyDog]

I'll never forget ICA at the Frye hearings, never.

ICA held court around her, she was in her element, the files, the depos, the copious note talking, all those lawyers buzzing around her, all those important busy people cooling their heels in the hallway waiting on little princess Casey Anthony - going through all her binders, flipping madly through the depos if she thought she could catch anyone out on a tiny discrepancy, the b1tching and moaning about her clothes that her mother was bringing in for her, the laughing and joking and flirting with any and all of her male attorney's and all the while discussing the decomposition of her little baby in the back of her damn car.

That's the real ICA and that stupid girl, riding on the back of Baez's hubris, forgot the world was watching.

Contrast THAT girl with the girl we see in court - Sorry ICA but people don't forget.

BBM/IBM

I think this is possibly the most profound sentence in the English language to date.

 

[darnudes]

Yep. And LDB was so smoooooooothhhhhh that barely anyone noticed that she elicited from Cindy the following:

1) That Casey discussed with Cindy on the afternoon of June 16th what to do about babysitting Caylee (Cindy had to work) so Casey was taking Caylee to Zanny's and would not be home that evening;

2) That Cindy did not leave the ladder down; and

3) That George would have typically left the home by 3:00 because that is when he needed to start work.

Cindy blew the "pool theory" right out of the water, so to speak. It's no wonder Casey threw a fit.

Also to add, I watched the "ICA cam" the whole time Cindy was testifying and ICA and Baez started to look sick when LDB was going through bit by bit all the pool and garden information.

Baez and ICA knew they were sunk then - I'm still not sure if it occurred to ICA that her story was being destroyed but Baez sure knew. The more Cindy testified the greater the rage in ICA grew and when Cindy first cried upon seeing Caylee's bed there was an instant reaction from ICA, she was pizzed. I believe I saw her saying to Sims that she can't cry now as Cindy was crying and it would make her look fake or something.

Personally, from watching ICA the whole time during Cindy's testimony I think the temper tantrum was a huge act - ICA was working her way up to it but just prior to Cindy getting off she was under control - I think, ICA thought, she had to throw that tantrum because it supports her story of subjugation and abuse by both of the Anthonys. ICA is working it.

This was the poor me abused Casey act and she was giving her defense team a show stopper of a performance.

 

[Theonly1]

Do you guys think it was seeing CA go off with GA in an embrace that set her off, like was reported earlier today? If so, why did that get her going?

It got her going because Cindy wasn't making any eye contact with her today, coupled that with the fact that Cindy usually acts like one of her Yorkies when it comes to Casey. Cindy tries to get her attention, mouths love yous and figuratively wags her tail. Today, she was not looking at Casey and then upon leaving the stand promptly hugged George. Since the world revolves around Casey (in her mind), that act was an act of defiance. She's doing this to hurt me! She's going to side with Dad! She did not fall on her sword and claim to leave the ladder down! What happened to my puppet strings?

 

[Frigga]

I don't know, but something about that Father's Day video resonated with Casey. She reacted to that still picture from the video today. During the "30 days" Tony caught Casey watching the video one night at his pad too. I surmise that Cindy guilted Casey with the video when she got back from Mt. Dora. I assume she said something along the lines of hospice has been called in for Grandpa so I took Caylee up to see him. You could have/should have seen him too (but for your stealing jags, you couldn't go up there). Casey was so jealous of Caylee, resentful of Cindy's love for her, and angry about the threats of losing custody.

I won't fall off the couch if on cross-examination Baez tries to elicit from Cindy about that infamous fight that supposedly occured that night (June 15th). While (in my opinion) Cindy made great strides towards truth today, I don't buy the Kumbaya story about the three of them watching the video together and crying. There was crying all right, but I don't think it went down the way we heard today. When Casey listened to Cindy's Kumbaya story, she started crying like her Mom was finally taking her side. Some of Casey's crying seemed like relief but most of it today was angry crying. Like when you're so mad you can't scream but you can cry.

I would agree, but I think nothing but the Kumbaya story will be coming in, even with Baez, because so far (or maybe ever) none of the 'stealing' testimony is coming in. I was under the impression that is what the fight was about and it seems like the money stuff isn't coming in?!

ICA will FREAK if her stealing ways, from those near and dear to her come in- (and by near and dear I mean her friend Amy H and how she 'borrowed' money from Ryan and never paid it back).

We will see a hissy fit of epic proportions if that comes in! I hope the DT accidentally opens the door to it. knock knock... come on in!

 

[strawberry]

Do you guys think it was seeing CA go off with GA in an embrace that set her off, like was reported earlier today? If so, why did that get her going?

I do. She watches her and then gets all upset while staring that way.

 

[iluvmua]

You are so right. In all my life I have only had the great displeasure of knowing a single true psychopath like Casey. It's all a facade, there is no "real" Casey. Casey is nothing special as far as murdering psychopaths go. She's an empty shell inside. She lacks a conscious and a soul. No genuine attachments to anyone, just surrounds herself with people she can manipulate to meet her needs. imo

IMO, That's really sad.

 

[Melanie]

Do you guys think it was seeing CA go off with GA in an embrace that set her off, like was reported earlier today? If so, why did that get her going?

IMHO - she saw GA & CA as a united front in the justice for Caylee Marie Anthony. Inmate KC was not happy with that at all. Thus, the lip reading (to the effect of "I can't believe it" -- something to that effect. The focus is no longer on the innocense of their daughter, but Justice for Caylee.

Thank you Lord.

MOO

Mel

 

[jon_burrows]

I'm almost completely deaf and many people don't know because I'm extremely good at lip reading (not bragging here), just what I've been told.

I watched the clip on my TV forwards & backwards, and on my computer over and over again.

I found her very hard to read but what I got out of it was "she's protecting him now", "she did nothing". "Three years for nothing."

I took that to mean she's been in jail for 3 years and expected her parents to back her up and she would be walking free from the trial. Then after GA wouldn't go for it, she expected her mother to cover for her and was shocked when that didn't happen.

Or, perhaps she meant that CA didn't do anything with Caylee and is taking all the credit for raising her.

She seems extremely immature and also seems to have a false sense of entitlement that baffles me. Not to mention that someone with a child of their own, acting like a 2 year old having a temper tantrum in the very serious situation she is in, is beyond the pale.

I had my first child at 18 also and had twins when I was 21, so looking back on that time and comparing it to her behavior, I'm just stunned. I took care of them by myself with no help from Mom. Mom was busy with her own life. To me the A's went above and beyond to help her with Caylee. She should have been extremely grateful for all the help.

Thanks for your insight. I wish you were on the jury.

 

[Frigga]

What an imbecile ICA is, her defense could have gone so many other ways. I don't think we have seen the last of her tantrums. I'm sure G and C know these all too well!

 

[cluciano63]

Casey can't see her parents during the trial, as in a visit, can she? If she allowed them to visit and they wanted to do so? Seems as though that would be off-limits until a verdict but just wondering.

 

[mydailyopinions]

Didn't Cindy just put money in ICA's account?

She did, and she may want to use it sparingly during trial..I have a feeling that will be the last money she receives from her parents.

 

[Shadow5618]

Does anyone have a pic or clip of CA and GA embracing? The wftv video is on ICA the whole time who is watching this with disbelief!

 

[panthera]

Do you guys think it was seeing CA go off with GA in an embrace that set her off, like was reported earlier today? If so, why did that get her going?

In part, yes. However I also believe it was CA's testimony in general, with CA crying over Caylee and the focus of attention wasn't on Casey, or saving Casey, or lying to save Casey.......in other words, it was "all about Caylee", just like when Casey got so riled up in the jail video.

 

[Theonly1]

Also to add, I watched the "ICA cam" the whole time Cindy was testifying and ICA and Baez started to look sick when LDB was going through bit by bit all the pool and garden information.

Baez and ICA knew they were sunk then - I'm still not sure if it occurred to ICA that her story was being destroyed but Baez sure knew. The more Cindy testified the greater the rage in ICA grew...

The great thing about eliciting all that crazy storytelling (hours worth of lie upon lie) is that one can become numb to the lies after awhile. Those of us who know all the tiny details from discovery and the media start to tune it out a bit, right? Amazingly, Cindy was going through every microscopic detail about every imaginary person in every made-up situation that it boggled the mind! CRAZYMAKING! All the while, here and there, LDB was getting admission after admission from Cindy and the nanosecond up to a point where Cindy was less than truthful in the past, LDB would go to the next thing. So, nothing was contentious and Cindy was lead nicely along down the garden path with no problems at all. LDB did not pause when she got the goods, she just kept going on as if it was nothing. Did Baez even notice the pool theory was totally blown today? We'll see when he gets his opportunity to cross on Tuesday.

Strangely enough, I don't think Casey was half as upset about Cindy saying she put the ladder away as other stupid things like Cindy bought the damn playhouse or that Cindy cried over seeing the bedding. What I saw, was Casey SEETHING when Cindy would cry (which was odd). That surely could have been seen by the jury.

 

[joypath]

Do you guys think it was seeing CA go off with GA in an embrace that set her off, like was reported earlier today? If so, why did that get her going?

:innocent: IMHO.....because it appeared that THEY ARE a UNITED FRONT, the King and Queen of the Hopespring Castle are back on their thrones and the felon inmate Princess has a new Kingdom to terrorize! :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[amysmom]

Sorry, jumping in late on this discussion. If JB didn't warn her that this was coming, he is a worse lawyer than I thought.

I would really like to know if KC told JB about George holding the little baby's body after she drowned, or if JB is making that one up. Also, there is no way he can put her on the stand, she will not be able to be believable once JA gets ahold of her. jmo

Can a defense atty just MAKE UP a story in an attempt to get his client off? I don't think so..I know they do with the SODDI defense but in that case they don't actually name the make-believe perp=totally diff scenario.

I wish I knew what the A's told Baez in that meeting 6 wks ago..You'd think it was "GO TO HELL"! I can't imagine anything other then that..If he didn't relay this info to his client & just went ahead with it he should be disbarred..No?

 

[Frigga]

She did, and she may want to use it sparingly during trial..I have a feeling that will be the last money she receives from her parents.

It will be interesting to see if even through this they still support the middle finger (was that her position?) of their family. The Irony is rich Stan Strickland, thank you for that powerful quote!

 

[Melanie]

Casey can't see her parents during the trial, as in a visit, can she? If she allowed them to visit and they wanted to do so? Seems as though that would be off-limits until a verdict but just wondering.

Hi,

No, ICA can accept visits anytime on visiting day. She's giving a log on who wants to visit her and then accepts or refuses. I would "think" she would be allowed to visit with her parents, just as wives/husbands and children are allowed to visit with inmates during their trials.

Just my opinion only.

Mel

 

[Joanner]

I would imagine that Judge Strickland is a VERY HAPPY person not to be involved with this anymore.