2011.06.01 TRIAL Day Seven (Afternoon Session)

[Tipstaff]

I missed it, just whose mother is Gloria?

Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez

 

[Marple]

I missed it, just whose mother is Gloria?

Zenaida.

 

[Curious Me]

Imaginary people move around more, and their families suffer heart problems and death often. Phone sim cards are never there when you need them.

 

[EGirl]

Doesn't he already know she doesn't work at Universal?

Not at that point.. but he probably suspects she is lying.

 

[kljohnson0458]

It kills me that the only people she told aren't REAL!!!!!!! The jury has to be really scratching their heads now.

 

[Puzzler]

It is an insult to any incest survivors that this behavior is common to people who are actually abused.

I have several close friends who are incest survivors, and I completely agree!

 

[carole]

May I ask: if she takes a deal, what's offered to her?

Thanks guys.

There is no deal and there won't be a deal.

Before Caylee was found, they offered 10 years for her to tell where Caylee's body was.

 

[Donjeta]

Is there anything that is untrue or anything you want to change about the story?

No sir.

 

[grammieto5]

I believe he knows she's not being honest

 

[Leila]

Casey is such a good liar..........just rattles off lie after lie with no hestitation. She's got an explanation for everything. I can see how CA might find her lies believable. If a person didn't have reason to not believe what she's saying and check her story out - she could get away with it.

But up against LE............all bets were off.

 

[Sparky]

I missed it, just whose mother is Gloria?

Zanny

 

[Beyond Belief]

The only truth in that statement is
Casey, "fear of the unknown"

 

[epiphany]

Melich: is there anything about this story...that u want to change, that isn't true...?

ICA: no, sir

 

[ohiogirl]

This may not be a popular opinion, but I actually do think she has some sort of mental issue, where she has the ability to divorce herself from reality, whether it's 3 years ago or yesterday.

I agree and the DT will surely address this in the penalty phase. Do you know if KC does not testify during the trial, can she testify during penalty phase?

 

[DairyGirl]

This may not be a popular opinion, but I actually do think she has some sort of mental issue, where she has the ability to divorce herself from reality, whether it's 3 years ago or yesterday.

I don't think she divorced herself from reality. I think she created her own reality.

 

[ami]

OMg, he turned at looked right at her during the recording asking "did you harm your child?"

 

[fifteen89]

I would love to know what was going on in YM mind while hearing these elaborate lies.

You and me both. Even just me sitting here looking at her face on the computer, I want to go "Heeelllllloooooo? Is anybody in there?"

 

[grammieto5]

YEP he knows

 

[Chiquita71]

Casey states birthday. YM tells her he was called because of a missing child. He wants to make sure her sworn statement is hers. She says yes. He wants to explain what happens if she makes a false statement, that if she wants to change the statement. She says it is the truth. He says Okay.

Your daughters name is Caylee?

yes

On june 9th you took Caylee to the baby sitter?

ZFG, Casey spells, sawgrass apartments, she does not remember address but remembers 210. She gives directions as to where it is, shed near building...

she new Zenaida four years, meet through JMHopkins met through Universal...she was his nanny at the time.

Does Jeff work for Universal?

No moved down to Jacksonvill...last spoke to him a month ago, does not have number for him off hand. She had two phones one through universal, one won't keep charge.

Lose a phone? personal?

She uses it for personal and business. Same number she just lost the phone. The SIM card is in the other phone...one other number for Zenaida and Jeff but they are not saved on the SIM card. She filed an incident report...she left the phone on her desk she wants to have a working phone instead of having a phone that does not stay charged.

She knows she left it on her desk and had not been to desk in three or four days. Met Zenaida through Jeffery...for almost four years...met her when Casey was pg...within the last year she began watching Caylee...looking for new nanny...Jeff offered she agreed and it went from there...Lauren Gibbs...

when she stop watching child?

April of 2006. Zenaida started watching. I would drop her off, for a few months we went to Jeffs house that was a couple of years off, to drop off Caylee where Zenaida would go to watch the kids...then started to bring the kids to Zenaida's apt.

When did you start taking Caylee? 2006 2007 your started taking her to Sawgrass...

Robinson....close to downtown lived there for a few months and moved to sawgrass...bumby can't remember apartment number...

six seven months the middle 2007...Zenaida was at that apt for the last three months before that she lived with her mom...not a well marked neighborhood...

had you dropped the child off there before? yes...

so sawgrass..mom's house..

yes, her mom was not living there at the time she had gotten a place with her sister...

she was living with these two girls at sawgrass?

yes

you dropped off Caylee to go to work?

I got off of work, left universal like a normal day, knock on door nobody answers...her cell is out of service...so I sit down on the steps to see if it was a fluke if something happened time passed and I went to JBP, went to a couple of stores...and after about seven when I hadn't heard anything I was upset and frantic and went to a neutral place...didn't want to come home didn't know what I would say...I ended up going to sutton place...

talk to Tony about Caylee?

no

Talk to anyone about Caylee?

A couple mutual friends, Jeff Hopkins...tried to attempt to contact Zenaida's mother.

You know her mother's name?

(long pause) it is gloria

any of these numbers in the SIM card?

no

so after a full year you do not have...

Zenaida has switched phones a number of times, Jeff's number has changed because he moved...

How can we get jeffs number?

the internet I can get it off of maybe

Juliette Lewis is an event co ordinator?

Have a number for Juliette?

I..can't...her number just changed just in the last two months just moved to NY. she left universal about two months ago.

who else did you talk to?

within that small group, I tried to get info by going to fusian ultra lounge asking if anyone heard about my nanny. the only two people I told were jeff and juliette...definitely online on our old worksheets...she has a new number that I just programed...talked to her three weeks ago shortly after she left.

what is the reason you didn't call the police before? we are here because your parents, why didn't you call?

I was naive to think I could handle this myself...fear of the unknown of the potential of Caylee getting hurt of not seeing my daughter again.

Is there anything about this story that is untrue?

no

did you hurt Caylee?

no sir

ZFG took your daughter?

she is the last person I seen with my daughter yes.

 

[Donjeta]

ICA-"the only two people that I specifically told(that Caylee was kidnapped by ZFG) were Jeff (hopkins) and Juliette(Lewis)"

BOTH PEOPLE WHO ARENT REAL!

Maybe that's why she doesn't have their phone numbers.