2011.06.03 TRIAL Day Nine (Afternoon Session)

[Miaa]

This witness is great.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

This is the first time during the whole try that I've actually been able to follow JB's line of questioning.

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

The jurors look like they are watching a ping pong match. Baez-Bloise-Baez-Bloise. #caseyanthony

 

[Kenziema]

Doesn't yell at him for looking at the jury...

 

[jamiect]

The jurors look like they are watching a ping pong match. Baez-Bloise-Baez-Bloise. #caseyanthony
by oscaseyanthony via twitter at 4:29 P

 

[GiantPickle]

i don't understand baez....he is showing how thorough the CSI team is....and now he just introduced "stains" in the trunk.

 

[concentric]

I don't mean you're vacuuming to clean the car, right? ha, ha.

How demeaning JB is being to the Dr.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

OK - has JB given up on his own fairy tale defense??? He seems to be trying to rebutt the prosecution's case of forensic evidence on the trunk of the car....why bother? I don't get it.

Do you think he has multiple personalty disorder?

 

[Dr. Know?]

Is he going for the hairs that Dr. Lee happened to find?

 

[nursebeeme]

i don't understand baez....he is showing how thorough the CSI team is....and now he just introduced "stains" in the trunk.

he sure did....because LDB never used the "S" "word"

 

[FaerieB]

stevehelling Steve Helling
I've smelled human decomposition three times. This witness is correct: you never, ever forget the smell. There's nothing like it.

Personal aside: I have had the unfortunate experience of smelling human decomp twice. It smells NOTHING like rotting food, rotting vegetation and/or garbage.
:cow:

 

[nursebeeme]

he said banana stain

 

[C-Squared]

There's the banana reference! hahahaha

 

[carole]

there's that banana again.

 

[joypath]

OMG!..BAEZ is opening the door for the stain introduction...and INTERPRETATION!...at least in my non legal opinion!:rocker:

 

[ZsaZsa]

Yeah, it would be interesting to see what the Florida Evidence Code has to say on this but that sounds as though your saying the Jury would be smelling the odour to determine that the odour was more akin to a banana rather than a dead human body (to wit: Caylee). Which is problematic:
a.) I am unsure if the Jury should be making a determination that the odour is decomposition of a banana. On what basis would the do so? What experience do they have?
b.) Similarly they certainly shouldn't be making a determinination that the odour is a decomposition of a human body. Considerations, ditto.
c.) They shouldn't be entering into a comparative analysis.

Can I just say- if they smell human decomposition they will know. No expert will need to explain what they are smelling.

I can identify the smell of a rotten banana too. I am sure most people with a normal sense of smell could distinguish that odor, it has a characteristic and distinctive odor.

 

[Chiquita71]

JB: the Pontiac Sunfire when it arrived. The first thing you did was an exterior inspection?

yes

JB: after that internal?

correct

JB: in plain english look inside the car?

correct

JB: I heard you testify that you upon opening the door of the car you smelled decomposition?

yes

JB: you said decomp and not human because something is decomposing?

yes

JB: and that could be animals?

yes

JB: meats?

yes

JB: could also be human?

yes

JB: you said you smelled various bodies at various stages of decomp?

yes

JB: in various environments?

correct

JB: one of the common things that you see when you see a decomposing body is maggots?

when completely deomposed yes

JB: depending on the stage of decomp you would see thousands of maggots, hundreds of thousands of maggots?

yes

JB: Pupilla...?

Not my experitse, I know human decomp in different stage but talking about that specific topic is not my expertese.

JB: I only want your visual.

Thank you.

JB: no prob. you have gone to medical examiners offices?

yes

JB: wouldn't you agree what you smell is formaldihide?

yes

JB: that is what ME use to perserve tissue?

yes, but in different area, most likely there are no chemicals in that area just the body in the freezer.

JB: when you go to any ME area you smell it everywhere?

yes

JB: fecal matter?

yes

JB: those are different smells and it is hard to smell what comes from what?

It depends if I do finger prints I know the smell of decomposing that is unique. That smell once you smell it you will never forget it. I want to deferenciate the chemicals that you smell at the ME and the full decompostion is different and you will never forget it in your life.

JB: different stages

the only difference is the other when it starts its decomposting smell but when it is full deomp it is strong.

JB: at different stages of decomp there are different smells? once a bodies orifices are exposed it is different than a newly decomposing body?

I agree

JB: Gas guage?

yes

JB: you did not take the car out for a spin?

no

JB: all you can testify is that you put gas in and it rose up a little bit.

correct

JB: dryer sheets, where you given any info about that car before you received it?

only that it was a case of a missing child.

JB: did you know Cindy put the dryer sheets in?

no

JB: the leaves were of no forensic value were they?

it depends.

JB: as far as you know those leaves have no forensic value to that case?

objection
sustained

JB: were those leaves sent out for further analysis?

to another lab

JB: then you focused on the trunk?

?

JB: you did a through search of the trunk of the car?

yes

JB: using tweezers and pulling out hair?

yes

JB: vaccumings of the car?

correct

JB: a hand held devise that catches debris and picks up the most minute particles in that trunk.

correct

JB: you used a ? light source?

yes

JB: for stains

yes

JB: doesn't mean those stains have forensic value but where you would concentrait on

yes

JB: so when you did that you found a portion of the car that had a stain?

yes

JB: it is not uncommon to find stains in trunks of cars

it is possible

JB: fairly common though right?

yes

JB: all right

JB: you used Blu Star?

yes

JB: not lumenal?

correct

JB: luminal is to identify blood

correct

JB: is important because if there is blood in the trunk it is important

correct

JB: blue star exposed the stain for a longer time. better than luminal because there are certain items it can show that luminal can not.

correct

 

[sleutherontheside]

ARGHHHHHHHH they are going to try to say that GB used too much bluestar or ruined remaining samples.

 

[BigFatMommyDog]

are we exceeding scope here? I must admit i'm a bit confused as to why JB is going into this harangue now

 

[21merc7]

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