2011.07.22 George & Cindy Board Private Jet for Nassau Vacation

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  • #941
Indeed. Any opinions on what the A's will do with their property and residence?

And what of Caylee's playhouse? That must be a tender topic as well.

Keep an eye on eBay.
 
  • #942
I've wondered that, too. With age comes patience, I've found. I believe I am much more patient with my young grandson than I probably was with his mom. I am not known for my patience! But what drove me crazy in my 20s is now merely an annoyance many times, I've discovered. Instead of cursing at slow trains and traffic jams, I might clean out my purse or have a phone conversation. I think it's likely that they were more doting to Caylee because they were older and more settled. I think they did the best they could for her when she was alive.

If only they came with a book...children. Nothing prepares us for raising a child, especially when we have a child early in life - you do the best you can do. Having said that, protecting one's offspring is usually a natural instinct - something we are born with. My opinion is Cindy obviously has that instinct - good or bad, she proved this fact when she tried to protect Caylee and when she tried to protect her own daughter - almost, no matter what. Cindy and George testified for the prosecution, not the defense. The only thing I saw, during the trial, that Cindy tried to save Casey from was the death penalty - the rest of her testimony seemed more damning than helpful.

Love between a mother and child is, again by instinct, unconditional - that's what I saw in Cindy Anthony, a normal instinct to protect from ultimate harm, but stopped short of neglecting to teach her a hard lesson. I look at my daughter and wonder how far I would go to keep her from dying - and I know there is no limit to how far I would go - she is a part of me as much as my heart and soul are a part of me. If I thought she could harm others, I would definitely want her out of society, but dead? No, I know for a fact that no matter what, I'd never want to see her dead.
 
  • #943
She drowned so someone decides to throw her out in the swamp down the road:maddening:

Yep. That sounds about right. And don't forget about putting duct tape on her face and lying about her being alive. Sounds exactly like a drowning to me. :banghead:
 
  • #944
I don't know! I support people leaving the Anthonys alone and letting them get on with their lives.

I would love to but it's very hard with them flaunting their lives in front of everyone. I would personally be extremely happy to never see or hear from any of the Anthonys again so I can get past this nightmare of a scenario where a child is expendable and her own family profits because of her loss. Please CA, GA, LA and KC go away!! :banghead:
 
  • #945
She drowned so someone decides to throw her out in the swamp down the road:maddening:

Is there a person alive who thinks this makes any sense at all ? I hope not !

If I found a bird dead in my back yard I might do this. But my daughter or grandaughter.

SICK-SICK-SICK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
  • #946
could not aggree less with your post. IMO Fred Goldman used every trick in the book not to make money for himself but to stop OJ from making money. Hats off to him.

also FG in no way hindered the investigation. he was truly a victim of the justice system.
i have sympathy for CA and GA for their ordeal. they never in a million years imagined this would become their life. I just dont happen to like the way they went about things. why stir up a media frenzy just to tell everyone off. all of the interviews they gave, all of the anger and lies. they would have done better to keep silent on the issues and not try to win the case for KC in the media. but i understand it. they were harrassed for housing a "baby killer" so they felt they needed to defend themselves. i do get it.. but hindsight they would have been better off to just ask people to search for Caylee and not invite arguments by making polarizing statements. (Caylee is with a nice kidnapper, it was the trash, mother of the year, psychic tips, pointing fingers at innocent people) they would have been better off not biting when the questions came and just said "the police are investigating and we pray Caylee is found, please help us search"
i would never want to be in their shoes so i dont want to judge but i can see where their behavior from day 31 on has people upset, including myself.

the disability is a separate issue. a lot of people are upset with the government system and dont like to see see taken advantage of. if they are well enough to run a non-profit organization i could see why it would rub some people the wrong way that they "cannot work" . ( it's double dipping to have income but take from the government to me.) i can see however, during the trial they probably couldn't work... the stress of a daughter facing DR and the loss of a GD are huge plus added to huge media interest. they were subject to be deposed and had to testify. that would interfer with work quite a lot. but now the case is over... their daughter is free. its how they act moving forward that will speak volumes to what they have learned during this past 3 years. if they continue to insist stress and meds to draw disability while having income from a book deal and running foundations it will not be perceived well . if they contine to have their lawyer announce paid vacations to nassau ect i can see where the public would be ticked off that the very people who hindered justice for their grandaughter are still throwing in our face that they deserve certain perks for their ordeal.
its a mess. just like the case. this circus will go on until the public moves on and has had enough of seeing their faces everywhere. if they truly want privacy and need time to decompress from the past 3 years i wont begrudge them that. it's how they conduct themselves after that that will be up for scrutiny.
CA will have to live with herself for the role she played in the coverup. i hope she learns from this and makes some big changes but i have a feeling her book will be pure fiction and that wont show spiritual growth to me.
 
  • #947
Re what they may/may not own.

Would all their assets, that have substantial value,
need to be owned by the foundation?

For them to be on SSD? - NO
It doesn't matter what you own - cars, jewelry, homes, stocks - anything - to be accepted for SSD.
I'm not sure about a book deal or interviews, but as long as the income is not determined to be from employment, it wouldn't be considered.

There a lot of wealthy people on SSD, I imagine. However - most people will not get wealthy on SSD. It is based on your earnings, same as regular SS. The maximum for a person would be limited by how much of their income was subject to SS tax.

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  • #948
Thanks for leading by example "peace" -- I'm backing my butt out of this chair...:back: to see the sunshine and breath the air :seeya:


And 2 hrs later... I'm still here. Not a very good example, am I?
 
  • #949
With the negative backlash they are receiving already, could you imagine what it would be if they came out now and said they all thought Casey was innocent? It's called damage control, actually, self preservation.


Actually they don't. The few who've spoken out have simply said they couldn't convict because the state couldn't prove the exact manner and time of death. None of the jurors have said they feel she is innocent. None.
 
  • #950
also FG in no way hindered the investigation. he was truly a victim of the justice system.
i have a lot of sympathy for CA and GA for their ordeal. they never in a million years imagined this would become their life. I just dont happen to like the way they went about things. why stir up a media frenzy just to tell everyone off. all of the interviews they gave, all of the anger and lies. they would have done better to keep silent on the issues and not try to win the case for KC in the media. but i understand it. they were harrassed for housing a "baby killer" so they felt they needed to defend themselves. i do get it.. but hindsight they would have been better off to just ask people to search for Caylee and not invite arguments by making polarizing statements. (Caylee is with a nice kidnapper, it was the trash, mother of the year, psychic tips, pointing fingers at innocent people) they would have been better off not biting when the questions came and just said "the police are investigating and we pray Caylee is found, please help us search"
i would never want to be in their shoes so i dont want to judge but i can see where their behavior from day 31 on has people upset.

the disability is a separate issue. a lot of people are upset with the government system and dont like to see see taken advantage of. if they are well enough to run a non-profit organization i could see why it would rub some people the wrong way that they "cannot work" . ( it's double dipping to have income but take from the government to me.) i can see however, during the trial they probably couldn't work... the stress of a daughter facing DR and the loss of a GD are huge plus added to huge media interest. they were subject to be deposed and had to testify. that would interfer with work quite a lot. but now the case is over... their daughter is free. its how they act moving forward that will speak volumes to what they have learned during this past 3 years. if they continue to insist stress and meds to draw disability while having income from a book deal and running foundations it will not be perceived well . if they contine to have their lawyer announce paid vacations to nassau ect i can see where the public would be ticked off that the very people who hindered justice for their grandaughter are still throwing in our face that they deserve certain perks for their ordeal.
its a mess. just like the case. this circus will go on until the public moves on and has had enough of seeing their faces everywhere. if they truly want privacy and need time to decompress from the past 3 years i wont begrudge them that. it's how they conduct themselves after that that will be up for scrutiny.
CA will have to live with herself for the role she played in the coverup. i hope she learns from this and makes some big changes but i have a feeling her book will be pure fiction and that wont show spiritual growth to me.

This will be the last thing I say about FG but I lost respect for him when he began blaming the Browns for Rons death. A lot of people do think he took blood money. The media parked in front of the Anthony home with lights blasting in their windows and unruly neighbors yelling all day and all night. That would drive anyone to odd behavior. Casey was in jail and nobody left.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/221725/fred_goldman_loses_to_oj_simpsonagain.html?cat=17
 
  • #951
What I am not comfortable with about the private jet, limo and island trip, is that they are both supposedly on disability because they 'can't' work. Plus, there house was in foreclosure and then their mortgage modified because they couldn't afford to pay for it.

So, the hard-working taxpayers are paying their bills while they jet-set. The value of the private jet, limo, vacations, etc. all of those perks are supposed to be taxable.

I wish the IRS and the U.S. Social Security/disability agency would take a serious look at their finances to determine where the money is literally going.

And isn't JB's house in foreclosure too, yet he was shown on TV driving off in a very nice white $70,000 BMW????
 
  • #952
i hope that they take this time to achieve clarity, to grow closer to one another and grow as people, and to take the time to hear the whispering earnest that is integrity. I hope that it takes root and grows, and that when they come home they can stand on it, at least briefly, from time to time.
 
  • #953
With the negative backlash they are receiving already, could you imagine what it would be if they came out now and said they all thought Casey was innocent? It's called damage control, actually, self preservation.

Do you also believe that George stuck his penis in Casey mouth while she was a child? I only ask because this was part of her defense as to why Casey lived in a liars world. And you say you believed she drowned and feel her grandparents are victims. If it was true don't you think Cindy would want George gone? I think the only true victim in this is Caylee. Many people got shafted like Tim Miller, the general public,searchers, law enforcement ect. But Caylee was the victim not her murdering mother nor the gparents who lied hoping justice would not be served.
 
  • #954
What I am not comfortable with about the private jet, limo and island trip, is that they are both supposedly on disability because they 'can't' work. Plus, there house was in foreclosure and then their mortgage modified because they couldn't afford to pay for it.

So, the hard-working taxpayers are paying their bills while they jet-set. The value of the private jet, limo, vacations, etc. all of those perks are supposed to be taxable.

I wish the IRS and the U.S. Social Security/disability agency would take a serious look at their finances to determine where the money is literally going.
And isn't JB's house in foreclosure too, yet he was shown on TV driving off in a very nice white $70,000 BMW????

:( Yikes, that is a scary thought to me...the government wanting to know how someone spends their money. I am assuming you don't mean because of the disability...I do agree that any foundations should be investigated, but otherwise, people are allowed to have wealth, as long as it is not income, if they are disabled.
 
  • #955
i hope that they take this time to achieve clarity, to grow closer to one another and grow as people, and to take the time to hear the whispering earnest that is integrity. I hope that it takes root and grows, and that when they come home they can stand on it, at least briefly, from time to time.

Beautifully put. Thank you.
 
  • #956
What proof is there she didn't? IMO there is way more proof that she did than she was murdered. Oh, and 12 jurors in Orange County agree with me.

Actually, they were from Pinellas county,

And, IMO, I'm not so sure that those 12 agreeing with your opinion actually makes that claim any stronger :rolleyes: Jus' sayin'
 
  • #957
And 2 hrs later... I'm still here. Not a very good example, am I?

Apparently not :p -- I watered my plants, took the trash out, picked up my dry-cleaning..not a lot of progress, I agree but I'm still working on my check-list for the day :innocent:
 
  • #958
What I am not comfortable with about the private jet, limo and island trip, is that they are both supposedly on disability because they 'can't' work. Plus, there house was in foreclosure and then their mortgage modified because they couldn't afford to pay for it.

So, the hard-working taxpayers are paying their bills while they jet-set. The value of the private jet, limo, vacations, etc. all of those perks are supposed to be taxable.

I wish the IRS and the U.S. Social Security/disability agency would take a serious look at their finances to determine where the money is literally going.

And isn't JB's house in foreclosure too, yet he was shown on TV driving off in a very nice white $70,000 BMW????

I don't think GA is on disability. He was working up until the trial. My guess is they filled his position and let him go or he's on temporary lay-off until another position becomes available. If CA sold her story he may not need to return. jmo
 
  • #959
It's not that simple for GA and CA. For US, all of US, to get a vacation from all things Anthony, all all of US have to do is stop reading, listening and watching. Start boycotting them now, as a lot of US have proclaimed we are going to do.

All of US certainly do need a vacation, after all, it's certainly a lot more stressful being lookie-loo's than it is to actually lose a grand-daughter in a tragic drowning accident.

Too bad life isn't fair? Wow, that says it all. Bet the A's would switch places with you anyday.

there are THOUSANDS of parents out there with children who have murdered others, including grandchildren and blood relatives as well as mass murders. Most of them have handled it with grace, dignity and even bad judgments at times. If these parents had made the same choices the Anthony's have by feeding into the media idiocy and mass mentality and allowed others to rule their decision making, then you WOULD have heard from them, over and over and over.... just like the Anthony's.

Yes life (whether its their fault or not)..has handed them a chittier deal than most of us will ever have to deal with. Have they handled it with even the slightest good judgment? Have they shown compassion for others who have been dragged into this mess? Have they demonstrated common sense? Have they even bothered to make their lies somewhat consistent so that they don't make larger fools of themselves and expose themselves to even more mockery and derision??

I believe in compassion... I believe in not being able to know what someone thinks, feels or why they decide to make the decisions they do. I believe that good people make bad choices and that everyone on this planet has "been there" and will be so again at some point. I believe that people don;t always make decisions that are in their best interests in spite of that others would do.

HOWEVER, I ALSO believe in allowing people to be held accountable for their actions, no matter what reason they made them. That is all most of these folks on here are doing. INCLUDING ME.

Being the parent or grandparent of a murdered child and going through hell during a trial, does NOT allow you a free pass on your behavior.

Pat
 
  • #960
Caylee's little house in the back yard with stones to keep her from the dirt that eventually engulfed her, are just one small testament to their caring and love for her. The food on the table, the light bill getting paid, a room full of Winnie the Pooh, the clothes on her little back - none of that came from the unemployed Casey - it's not hard to see that they loved her and wanted to protect her....even through vitriol, not hard to see.

snipped by me.

All the above is great, BUT, more important to ME, would be if they had cared enough to actually meet the Nanny that was supposedly caring for the granddaughter they loved and wanted to protect so much.

THAT speaks volumes to me. IMO
 
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