2011.07.22 George & Cindy Board Private Jet for Nassau Vacation

[LambChop]

any word how long this vacation is to last???
maybe we will get lucky and they will stay there..........

They couldn't get out of the terminal without someone taking their picture on their phone. lol I'm sure if they are at all visible someone will be taking pictures and sending them to WESH or posting them online. jmo

 

[mentalsolstice]

I am on disability...so I am not condemning anyone else who is. What I am saying is I could see if the IRS was interested in the foundation, but nothing else. When my parents were alive, they sometimes gave me small monetary gifts under the amount that needed to be reported and we would take a trip.

I was agreeing with you. However, the SSA can't investigate CA unless her activities are indicative of her capability of holding down a full-time job. Gifts to a foundation or to her directly is out SSA's hands. If my parents wanted to send me to Bahamas every month, for some downtime from stress, I don't think the SSA can do a da*ned thing about it. The IRS might investigate parents and myself for the $$$ gifts and tax accordingly, but they would not be able to take away one red cent of my SSDI.

So CA and GA may have an IRS issue, however, if she's getting SSDI she'll probably get it until she dies. It doesn't matter if she writes a book or gets a fee for an occasional interview, she'll simply be taxed by the IRS (unless she can shelter it).

 

[jon_burrows]

Mr. Goldman did everything he could think of to hold O.J. Simpson accountable for the senseless butchering of his son, Ronald Goldman.

Mr. Goldman worked tirelessly to prevent Simpson from profiting from the heinous slaughter of two innocent victims, Ronald Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson.

Apples and oranges.

ITA, the Goldman and Brown family were robbed of any justice whatsoever. I saw OJ in a golf cart looking into a camera and taunting Ron's father. It was played all over the news that night. The only way he could make OJ pay was via a civil judgement. OJ wouldn't be sitting in prison right now if it weren't for that law suit. I'll always remember the judge's words...'I don't know if you're stupid or arrogant but I've come to the conclusion you are both' (paraphrasing).

IMO

 

[RubyBlu]

there are THOUSANDS of parents out there with children who have murdered others, including grandchildren and blood relatives as well as mass murders. Most of them have handled it with grace, dignity and even bad judgments at times. If these parents had made the same choices the Anthony's have by feeding into the media idiocy and mass mentality and allowed others to rule their decision making, then you WOULD have heard from them, over and over and over.... just like the Anthony's.

Yes life (whether its their fault or not)..has handed them a chittier deal than most of us will ever have to deal with. Have they handled it with even the slightest good judgment? Have they shown compassion for others who have been dragged into this mess? Have they demonstrated common sense? Have they even bothered to make their lies somewhat consistent so that they don't make larger fools of themselves and expose themselves to even more mockery and derision??

I believe in compassion... I believe in not being able to know what someone thinks, feels or why they decide to make the decisions they do. I believe that good people make bad choices and that everyone on this planet has "been there" and will be so again at some point. I believe that people don;t always make decisions that are in their best interests in spite of that others would do.

HOWEVER, I ALSO believe in allowing people to be held accountable for their actions, no matter what reason they made them. That is all most of these folks on here are doing. INCLUDING ME.

Being the parent or grandparent of a murdered child and going through hell during a trial, does NOT allow you a free pass on your behavior.

Pat

thanks for sharing your experience and wisdom :rose:

 

[rotterdam]

Think about it....KC never said Caylee drowned, JB did.

Just a reminder. Dr G said that kids who ACCIDENTALLY drown in a pool, their loved ones call 911 100% of the time. 100% is greater than the % of any DNA evidence.
Guess if you say accidental drowning enough, some folks start believing it. the mind works in funny ways. Besides , it sounds so much more palatable and sugar coated than what IMO really happened. And I am 100% sure there was no accident.
And I suspect the Anthonys deep down do not buy the accidental drowning either. But then I can not read people like some other folks.
So if you believe the accidental drowning, you must also believe that the carefully orchestrated media spin for $$ started on the day Caylee accidentally drowned.
And that, my friends, I do not believe.

 

[kelian36]

:rocker::great:

 

[kelian36]

What proof is there she didn't? IMO there is way more proof that she did than she was murdered. Oh, and 12 jurors in Orange County agree with me.

Are you asking for proof that Caylee didn't drown in the pool? Check out the verdict thread and the other 9000 post about this case. :Banane37:

 

[SAgal]

What proof is there she didn't? IMO there is way more proof that she did than she was murdered. Oh, and 12 jurors in Orange County agree with me.

Do you have a source that proves Caylee actually drown...Or a source that shows the 12 jurors agree that Caylee drown?

I thought only two of the jurors had made public statements: Juror #3 and the Jury Foreman.
Perhaps I missed the statements made by the other 10 Jurors?
I don't recall any evidence proving Caylee drown. The Defense Opening Statement is not evidence.

Thank you.

 

[rossva]

After the civil suit, Mr Goldman worked tirelessly to make money for him self.

Mr. Goldman did everything he could think of to hold O.J. Simpson accountable for the senseless butchering of his son, Ronald Goldman.

Mr. Goldman worked tirelessly to prevent Simpson from profiting from the heinous slaughter of two innocent victims, Ronald Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson.

Apples and oranges.

 

[rotterdam]

You asked the differance between them and kind, honest, victims.
Did any of those people run out of their house and push old lady's around ?
Dump dog water ? Hose people down? Flash hammers at people ?
Oh yeah and LIE, LIE, LIE, LIE ???

Thank you of reminding me of the dog bowl water dumping. That really got me livid. That was just plain sick/mean in that hot Fla weather. I believe, it was a St Bernard. Whenever I see Lee, it always jumps into my mind like it happened yesterday.
That whole family is non standard and a caricature of the average family.
They are very predatory.

 

[LambChop]

Just a reminder. Dr G said that kids who ACCIDENTALLY drown in a pool, their loved ones call 911 100% of the time. 100% is greater than the % of any DNA evidence.
Guess if you say accidental drowning enough, some folks start believing it. the mind works in funny ways. Besides , it sounds so much more palatable and sugar coated than what IMO really happened. And I am 100% sure there was no accident.
And I suspect the Anthonys deep down do not buy the accidental drowning either. But then I can not read people like some other folks.
So if you believe the accidental drowning, you must also believe that the carefully orchestrated media spin for $$ started on the day Caylee accidentally drowned.
And that, my friends, I do not believe.

It just goes down a little easier than death by duct tape.... jmo

 

[rossva]

The ME stated that in her jurisdiction, Orange County, that it was reported 100% of the time. Any idea how many incidences that 100% of the time amounted to? Although even one accidental drowning is too many, there have been only a small small number of accidental drownings in Orange County. Any idea what that number is for 2011 to date? TWO. So according to the ME 100% of all of TWO incidences so far in 2011 911 has been called.

http://www.orangecountyfl.net/CitizensSafety/ChildhoodDrowningPrevention/tabid/235/Default.aspx

And obviously the ME's stat can not be correct. Caylee accidentally drowned in 2008; 911 was NOT called then, so, it can not be stated that 100%
of the time 911 was called.

This is why the ME stated it's reported 100% of the time. Your brain does not go to let's cover this up and make it look like a homocide.

 

[kelian36]

Where'd my post go? :waitasec:

 

[kelian36]

The ME stated that in her jurisdiction, Orange County, that it was reported 100% of the time. Any idea how many incidences that 100% of the time amounted to? Although even one accidental drowning is too many, there have been only a small small number of accidental drownings in Orange County. Any idea what that number is for 2011 to date? TWO. So according to the ME 100% of all of TWO incidences so far in 2011 911 has been called.

http://www.orangecountyfl.net/CitizensSafety/ChildhoodDrowningPrevention/tabid/235/Default.aspx

And obviously the ME's stat can not be correct. Caylee accidentally drowned in 2008; 911 was NOT called then, so, it can not be stated that 100%
of the time 911 was called.

Caylee did not drown in 2008!


She was murdered in 2008.

 

[rossva]

As stated in the Verified Lawyers thread, Casey would have been in jail the entire time even if the accidental drowning story had been made public at the time of her arrest. The state was not going to say "oh, if that was the case, you might as well go home now".

What parent when being interviewed by police about their "missing" child will refuse that an accident happened, over and over and over by the way, and instead claim that a non-existant nanny kidnapped their child while they were at a job that also didn't exist then sit in jail for 3 years before finally deciding to say that the "missing" child really did die in an accidental drowning and only admit that on the first day of their 1st degree murder charges trial UNLESS the child was in fact murdered and that parent had committed the murder?

There is no reason whatsoever for a parent to claim repeatedly that there was no accident at all when the police have given that parent an "out" if it was true. There are clear signs that it was in fact murder and not an accidental drowning. Unfortunately the jury in this case did not bother to take the time to examine the evidence, ask questions, re-listen to testimony, etc. The grandparents of the child also decided to ignore the evidence as their daughter meant more to them than justice for their dead granddaughter.

Now not only will the mother (she and her lawyers hope) make lots of money off of her dead daughter, the grandparents (they and their lawyer hope) will make lots of money off of their dead granddaughter. Heck, they all get free vacations off of the back of Caylee as well. Win, win, win for them and a huge lose for Caylee.

MOO

 

[Velouria]

All done to make money for Fred Goldman. Starting a foundation for his son to make money has nothing to do with holding OJ accountable. Auction off the rights to the book OJ wrote (that were awarded to Fred Goldman) was all about making money for Fred Goldman. Had it been about justice for Ron, all he had to do was let the book go unpublished. If it was at all about justice for Ron, winning thye wrongful death accomplished that as much as it could be accomplished. Anything else was all about making money for Fred Goldman.

Oh yeah, it's big, bad FRED GOLDMAN who's the real villain here...

Bet you Mr. Goldman would GLADLY relinquish any funds derived from his civil suit if he could have his murdered son back. And where is the evidence that he's gotten rich off any of these attempts to hold OJ responsible?

 

[JBean]

Fred Goldman is not the topic;nor is OJ. Reference to them is fine, but when the topic becomes a back and forth dialogue about that case it is in the wrong forum.
Thanks.

post lands at random.

 

[rossva]

The civil suit has absolutely nothing to do with why OJ is sitting in jail today. OJ is sitting in jail today because he was arrogant and thought he was above the law.

Count 1: Conspiracy to Commit a Crime (1 year, concurrent)
Count 2: Conspiracy to Commit Kidnapping (12–48 months, concurrent)
Count 3: Conspiracy to Commit Robbery (12-48, concurrent)
Count 4: Burglary while in Possession of a Deadly Weapon (26–120 months, concurrent)
Count 5: 1st Degree Kidnapping with Use of a Deadly Weapon (Bruce Fromong) (15 years, possibility of parole in 5, concurrent, with 12–72 months consecutively)
Count 6: 1st Degree Kidnapping with Use of a Deadly Weapon (Alfred Beardsley) (15 years, possibility of parole in 5, concurrent, with 12–72 months consecutively)
Count 7: Robbery with Use of a Deadly Weapon (Bruce Fromong) (60–180 months concurrent with 12–72 months consecutive)
Count 8: Robbery with Use of a Deadly Weapon (Alfred Beardsley) (60–180 months concurrent with 12–72 months consecutive)
Count 9: Assault with a Deadly Weapon (Bruce Fromong) (18–72 months consecutive with count 8)
Count 10: Assault with a Deadly Weapon (Alfred Beardsley) (18–72 months consecutive with count 9)
* O.J. Simpson was found guilty of all ten charges.*

ITA, the Goldman and Brown family were robbed of any justice whatsoever. I saw OJ in a golf cart looking into a camera and taunting Ron's father. It was played all over the news that night. The only way he could make OJ pay was via a civil judgement. OJ wouldn't be sitting in prison right now if it weren't for that law suit. I'll always remember the judge's words...'I don't know if you're stupid or arrogant but I've come to the conclusion you are both' (paraphrasing).

IMO

 

[LambChop]

As stated in the Verified Lawyers thread, Casey would have been in jail the entire time even if the accidental drowning story had been made public at the time of her arrest. The state was not going to say "oh, if that was the case, you might as well go home now".

Yea, and it's kinda hard to say Caylee drowned with all that duct tape wrapped around her face. Better to wait until there is nothing left to test but bones so you can't determine how she died, then go with the drowning. Yep, that makes perfect sense. jmo

 

[vlpate]

Yea, and it's kinda hard to say Caylee drowned with all that duct tape wrapped around her face. Better to wait until there is nothing left to test but bones so you can't determine how she died, then go with the drowning. Yep, that makes perfect sense. jmo

I agree, no drowning. Besides, did not everyone see the jailhouse tape where she was unphased by the rumor of a drowning? Her words, "surprise, surprise". Of course this is truly meaningless in the big picture given her false emotions and inappropriate reactions to things.

She would have said Caylee drowned a long time ago were it true and the Anthony's would probably have backed her up, but she didn't and you have to ask yourself why.