2011.10.19 Former Friends Of DB Speak Out

[In da Middle]

It actually might be quite a bit easier to find residential trash pick up on Tuesday that is VERY close to the Irwin residence. I was able to locate this map in about 10 seconds. I've had to use it in the past when Deffenbaugh (our trash service) repeatedly changed our pick up days.

**The map below is for Gladstone, but Gladstone is a small suburb contained w/in Kansas City just a few miles from the Irwin home. Looks like anyone could have easily had an opportunity to hide her in plain sight.

http://www.deffenbaughinc.com/pdfs/schedules/Gladstone.pdf

According to the news reports on that Friday, KCPD said that they searched the landfill as trucks came in Tuesday also. So they at least were already thinking of that possibility. KCMrg also has trash pickup info online.

 

[tehcloser]

I was pppfffting at Chaz having 4 years to live..........................not the Debra story, I don't doubt that at all, the only thing I wonder is if she's changed and somehow I don't think she has.

 

[JeannaT]

BBM
To answer the bolded question...yes. I have the same morals and beliefs that I had as a teenager. By that age, much of our personality is molded. Yes we mature. Yes we sometimes do stupid stuff as teens that we would never do as mature adults. But this woman isn't that far past her teenage years, and the type of behavior described goes to a person's basic fiber. Setting out to sleep with someone's husband to hurt a person is hardly the same as egging a car on Halloween or some of the other stupid things we do as teens. It is despicable at any age.

But the thing is, we have NO IDEA if that's true. It might well be the husband came on to her, and to cover for that he told his wife she came on to him. Or the woman in the Enquirer is just a flake who makes stuff up. The fact that she's selling her story to the Enquirer - IMHO - makes the second possibility the most likely.

 

[epiphany]

Although this news from The NE has nothing to do with whether DB is even capable of being involved in the disappearance of her baby or not, my hunch is it's likely true. Just an interesting tidbit. If true, she's certainly not the first married woman to go after a friend's husband, and unfortunately, she won't be the last.

 

[epiphany]

But the thing is, we have NO IDEA if that's true. It might well be the husband came on to her, and to cover for that he told his wife she came on to him. Or the woman in the Enquirer is just a flake who makes stuff up. The fact that she's selling her story to the Enquirer - IMHO - makes the second possibility the most likely.

Or it is true AND she's selling the truth as it happened to The National Enquirer.

 

[epiphany]

I think a few of us are waiting to see if DB can be romantically linked to another male in her more recent past in addition to her current partner. I and others speculated about this prior to ever hearing from these women in other MSM (pre-NE story).

 

[Melanie]

And sadly, we must report that Chaz Bono only has 4 years to live. (Don't anyone tell, Chaz.)

Not to get OT, just an observation. NE had some doctor speculate that Chaz could be dead in 4 years (not that he's gonna die in 4 years). This was based on his/her size, the amount of meds necessary to maintain a male appearance whilst in a female body, and other factors.

Sure Chaz could die in 4 years, so could I. It's just sensational jornalism at its weakest

MOO

Mel

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I think a few of us are waiting to see if DB can be romantically linked to another male in her more recent past in addition to her current partner. I and others speculated about this prior to ever hearing from these women in other MSM (pre-NE story).

I can't help wondering if Jeremy Irwin is truly Baby Lisa's biological father. Early in the case, there were suspicions raised about paternity, and I couldn't help thinking about this every time that I watched the couple being interviewed together. jmo

 

[Aedrys]

I just tend to think that DB's drinking was a little more than a beer in the evening or a glass of wine with dinner. Me thinks, she gets, "torn up" from the "floor up" when she does her "several times a week" get her drunk on. :woohoo:

ITA. I mean, she specified it as her "me time". Having one drink or beer in the evening or with dinner is not "me time." "Me time" to me is drinking much more than that and not giving a carp about anyone else, just DB spending her time with her wine until she blacked out or stopped drinking it at some point.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Again, DB was a teenager when this drama was going on.
Are any of us anything like we were when were teenagers? I sure would hate to have the world judge me on some of the stupid things I did when I was in my teens.

And come on, it's the National Enquirer! Would you expect anything less salacious from that rag. Not to mention the character of a person that sells their story to them.

Yes, I was a teenager once too, and I can guarantee you that I never tried to seduce anyone elses husband. Doesn't make DB a murderer, but it shows an immoral core.

 

[norest4thewicked]

I can't help wondering if Jeremy Irwin is truly Baby Lisa's biological father. Early in the case, there were suspicions raised about paternity, and I couldn't help thinking about this every time that I watched the couple being interviewed together. jmo

She looks exactly like him....

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Not to get OT, just an observation. NE had some doctor speculate that Chaz could be dead in 4 years (not that he's gonna die in 4 years). This was based on his/her size, the amount of meds necessary to maintain a male appearance whilst in a female body, and other factors.

Sure Chaz could die in 4 years, so could I. It's just sensational jornalism at its weakest

MOO

Mel

I know...I was just having a laugh about the headline.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

She looks exactly like him....

I don't. I think she resembles Deborah. jmo

 

[jjenny]

I don't. I think she resembles Deborah. jmo

Somebody else here pointed out how DB and JI themselves look alike. I noticed the same thing, they have similar features. So it's pretty much impossible to tell which one of them Lisa resembles more.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Somebody else here pointed out how DB and JI themselves look alike. I noticed the same thing, they have similar features. So it's pretty much impossible to tell which one of them Lisa resembles more.

I'd have to drink a honkin' huge box of wine to see any similarities in DB and JI's looks Don't see it. Lisa Irwin is/was a big baby girl and would likely end up looking just like her mom with similar coloring and body type. jmo

 

[my_tee_mouse]

BBM. Attention-seeking behavior, for sure, and I would really like to know if DB was always like this or if this "drama queen" persona was the result of losing her mother at age 15. jmo

It's possible. I know that after my mother died (I was barely 14), I walked around barefoot the whole winter. Obviously it was a cry for attention...for help. Sadly, not one single person EVER talked to me about the behavior OR my mother's death. No one. Not even my father. But I didn't go around trying to catch other people's husbands or manage to have my children disappear under my watch (or lack thereof). But major traumas coupled with how they are handled make for different outcomes, that's for sure.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

But the thing is, we have NO IDEA if that's true. It might well be the husband came on to her, and to cover for that he told his wife she came on to him. Or the woman in the Enquirer is just a flake who makes stuff up. The fact that she's selling her story to the Enquirer - IMHO - makes the second possibility the most likely.

I wasn't arguing whether the story is true or not. I was answering the bolded question of whether or not we are the same people we were as teens. However, for the record, I'm thinking there's a good bit of truth to the story.

 

[Cazzie]

I'm reading this (and the MSM interview they did on video) with a huge shaker of salt. Could be they were jealous of DB for whatever reason(s). And now they have a chance for revenge, and $ from selling their story(ies).

It could be true, and I would still think the same. What do these stories have to do with Lisa being missing?

JMO.

 

[gliving]

Aren't the two women who are quoted the same women who gave interviews on MSM last week? NE delved a little deeper into the situation to sell their sensational rag. jmo

I think NE $weetened the pot and the girl friends $weetened their $tory. There wasn't any delving, only a flash of cash.

Pot kettle black.

 

[cj1132]

Maybe it was the way the article was presented, but my thought from the previous article and this one, reminds me of my daughter in junior high. Maybe I'm just getting old.