2015.12.29 Breaking News!!! New Discovery Docs now released

[susnoat]

Yes. This is the thing - it is not that I ever doubted you susnoat. However, at the time, I felt like it might have been TMI of a past history that had no real bearing on their current relationships. All I ask is this - we have no less that 10 verified insiders (Sievers & Bolin). Additionally, there are several others that I know who have chosen not to be verified. I would NEVER confirm how any of these people are related/connected to others but I beg of everyone to assume that ALL families may be represented here.

So, considering this new info please feel free to enlighten us. I would like to respectfully ask that you choose your words with care and try to do describe it as gently as possible because we never know who may be learning something new for the first time about their loved one.

I hope that makes sense. Sorry if it sounds a bit cryptic. It is certainly not my intention. Just food for thought.

Isn't one of the first things you learn in life is that Leopards can not change their spots? No offense taken. Ive been telling this incredibly sick story for many years. They have been trying to convince everyone that I was lying and or crazy. Yeah......

 

[Riversinthedesert]

MS hired CWW and didnt know that CWW hired JR supposedly. If CWW offered JR $10,000 he must have been expecting a really good payout from MS. Otherwise, CWW would have done the job by himself and kept that much of the money. I have no doubt JR was to be the fall guy if something went wrong. jmo

One of the MSM stories which keeps being updated stated that Rodgers and Sievers hated each other.

 

[concernedmother]

So MS was sending video and pics of his affairs to TS? Somehow I doubt she cared who he slept with and was secretly hoping one of them would take him off her hands. jmo

 

[KayCherry]

Ditto what you said ! lol

Hello! I'm kinda new, & pretty sure this post is against protocol .. But, if you would allow my digression,, I want to take a moment to say YEEEHA! :happydance:

Imagine my surprise to sign on to see if there was any **new news and to find this!!

Got my glass of Christmas wine and ready to kick back to a nite of sleuthing ))

TY you guys, you do an awesome job here������:loveyou:

 

[Frigga]

Please share what you can Susnoat- the picture is becoming clearer by the moment as all of the puzzle pieces are finally being taken from the box.

 

[irishchook]

"Additionally, a post to Rodgers' Facebook page days before the murder said "One Free Murder -- This voucher entitles you to commit one murder without legal, social or financial consequences."

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/30847772/girlfriend-says-one-sievers-suspect-owed-the-other-a-favor

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Just saw the local news and the "voucher" was a little cut-out that one would "clip" as as a coupon.

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[beach]

Isn't one of the first things you learn in life is that Leopards can not change their spots? No offense taken. Ive been telling this incredibly sick story for many years. They have been trying to convince everyone that I was lying and or crazy. Yeah......

I understand. Using your analogy, I'm just saying there may be some people who are not as familiar as you are with their sordid history. I wouldn't want any persons who are cooperating with LE and doing the right thing to be hurt in the crossfire. Just keep the stories relevant as to major players - please don't reference everyone they screwed over (literally and figuratively) in Jefferson and surrounding counties. Cause frankly, I'm sure there are PLENTY of them.

 

[irishchook]

No doubt he was supposed to be CWW's plan B. But now I have to wonder if the fight between JR and MS over a parking space (say what?!!) at CWW's wedding might have put JR in the mood to hang onto evidence and confide in his gf Taylor about MS's involvement. Fights over parking spaces never end well!

Weirder things have happened. Example: the man who didn't like hearing rap music while pulling into a convenience store. Shoots him dead. Gets life in prison.

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[Scout]

MS hired CWW and didnt know that CWW hired JR supposedly. If CWW offered JR $10,000 he must have been expecting a really good payout from MS. Otherwise, CWW would have done the job by himself and kept that much of the money. I have no doubt JR was to be the fall guy if something went wrong. jmo

I don't believe that Mark didn't know that CWW hired JRR to help. IMO, it was part of the plan that JRR think Mark wasn't aware. And MS instigated the fight to lay groundwork for making JRR the patsy.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

Okay, this pretty much convinces me that Angie is one of those that SMS is considering charging. It seriously doesn't get more obvious that a witness is lying. What's sad, is I doubt any of them care if she ends up facing charges - not JR, not MS AND certainly not her sorry HUSBAND.

He needs to just arrest her it's not like she's ever going to be a credible witness for the prosecution. She's a train wreck.

 

[Greater Than]

Interesting. I had wondered whether or not MS knew CWW hired JR to assist. Now I'm wondering...if they had actually gotten away with it, if/when CWW intended to tell MS.

MS having a threesome with AW and CWW comes as no surprise to me. MS had already admitted to LE he had extramarital affairs and that he and TS were swingers. Him sleeping with his BFF's bride seems like par for the course. But her claiming she doesn't know whether or not she has ever had sex with MS because he looks like her husband is GOLD. She wins Liar of the Year award, by a landslide.

 

[irishchook]

Isn't one of the first things you learn in life is that Leopards can not change their spots? No offense taken. Ive been telling this incredibly sick story for many years. They have been trying to convince everyone that I was lying and or crazy. Yeah......

I truly don't mean to be nosy and hope that I'm not insulting you as a VI, but can you re-cap "the incredibly sick story for many years."?

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[Scout]

So MS was sending video and pics of his affairs to TS? Somehow I doubt she cared who he slept with and was secretly hoping one of them would take him off her hands. jmo

That's according to MS. We don't know if it's true. And if it is true, we don't know that his explanation for doing so is accurate.

 

[Chelly]

He needs to just arrest her it's not like she's ever going to be a credible witness for the prosecution. She's a train wreck.

Disagree.
LE will get more from her by threatening arrest and bargaining. She could be a valuable informant.
My opinion.

 

[beach]

I don't believe that Mark didn't know that CWW hired JRR to help. IMO, it was part of the plan that JRR think Mark wasn't aware. And MS instigated the fight to lay groundwork for making JRR the patsy.

BINGO

We're on the same wavelength, Scout. I don't believe for a minute that Mark didn't know JR was going to accompany Wayne. Wayne didn't have $10K laying around but Mark certainly did. MS even boasted about the $40K cash in his safe at home.

 

[beach]

He needs to just arrest her it's not like she's ever going to be a credible witness for the prosecution. She's a train wreck.

Oh, I think she will be the biggest GIFT OF ALL for the prosecution!!!

Her intention is to "help" her husband and she could not be causing him or MS more harm if she tried.

 

[concernedmother]

Oh, I think she will be the biggest GIFT OF ALL for the prosecution!!!

Her intention is to "help" her husband and she could not be causing him or MS more harm if she tried.

She doesnt have to testify against CWW . But I suppose they could call her to the stand against JR and MS?

 

[irishchook]

Girlfriend says one Sievers suspect owed the other a favor
Posted: Dec 29, 2015 1:59 PM CST
Updated: Dec 29, 2015 4:56 PM CST
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/30847772...t-met-victims-husband-at-wedding#.VoMP2kafZJk

In recorded interviews with detectives, Shoemaker said Rodgers met Mark Sievers at Wright's wedding, and that Rodgers and Sievers fought that night over a parking spot at the wedding.

She went on to claim that Wright hired Rodgers to help with the murder, something she said Mark Sievers did not know. The Lee County Sheriff's Office, in documents released weeks ago, suggested that Mark Sievers had planned the murder along with Wright.

Mark Sievers, however, has not been arrested.

Hope that will not be a part of his defense.

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[concernedmother]

I get it. MS and JR hated each other so JR took revenge by killing MS wife. Could that have been MS and CWW plan?

 

[FightTheOstrich]

Disagree.
LE will get more from her by threatening arrest and bargaining. She could be a valuable informant.
My opinion.

I don't see her flipping until she's spent at least a few nights in jail.