2015.12.29 Breaking News!!! New Discovery Docs now released

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I've been busy the last couple of months and just logged back in tonight--All I can say is WOW--certainly good timing on my part

SO happy to see you back! :happydance:

You have been missed! :)
 
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re: things or lack thereof, in all documents released so far, pertaining to MS and relevant to his culpability in the planning, commission, and cover-up of Teresa's death

i may be wrong, but my understanding is the documents that have been released thus far are related to CWW's involvement/arrest/charges

...and that if MS is arrested, following that, would come a time where we would see more of the puzzle pieces that he contributed

jmo & i have no clue if that is true or not

Correct.

We're not seeing everything the SA has. We're seeing what they have to turn over to CWW and his defense attorneys, in order to comply with the discovery rules. I know there are certain items which LE would have routinely issued subpoena duces tecums and they should have received the requested docs by now. Whatever is in those we would not see if they did not implicate CWW or help support the state's case.

That is not to say that whatever the state has that we have yet to see is damaging or not regarding Mark. Just unknown.
 
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-When asked if she had ever had sex with Mark Sievers, Wright's wife Angela Wright said "not that I know of."

She described how she got "pretty drunk the night before my wedding and don’t remember bits and pieces of it. ... But seriously, Mark and my husband looked an awful lot alike, too.”

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/crim...ents-in-Dr-Teresa-Sievers-case-363748851.html

I wonder, given the resemblance between MS and CWW, if this was part of their long standing bond, built over years. I suspect they may have swapped places with females in the past, one stepping away from the action to observe while the other stepped out of the voyeur role and into his place. That feeling of "pulling something over" on inebriated sexual partners could have heightened their enjoyment of the situation. They both strike me as very controlling personalities. Both seem very concerned with presenting themselves how they would like to be viewed. Another means of control for two who seem very into being dominant.

Sick pups. I can only imagine the stuff each has on the other from their many years of friendship.
 
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-When asked if she had ever had sex with Mark Sievers, Wright's wife Angela Wright said "not that I know of."

She described how she got "pretty drunk the night before my wedding and don’t remember bits and pieces of it. ... But seriously, Mark and my husband looked an awful lot alike, too.”

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/crim...ents-in-Dr-Teresa-Sievers-case-363748851.html

I wonder, given the resemblance between MS and CWW, if this was part of their long standing bond, built over years. I suspect they may have swapped places with females in the past, one stepping away from the action to observe while the other stepped out of the voyeur role and into his place. That feeling of "pulling something over" on inebriated sexual partners could have heightened their enjoyment of the situation. They both strike me as very controlling personalities. Both seem very concerned with presenting themselves how they would like to be viewed. Another means of control for two who seem very into being dominant.

Sick pups. I can only imagine the stuff each has on the other from their many years of friendship.
Such a fine, upstanding, church going fella that Curtis Wayne Wright is. What position did he hold in the church again- anyone remember? SMDH
 
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<snipped>

WTF?!?!!!

Angie needs to come clean because she will be ANNIHILATED under cross-examination. She sounds horrible even in print! I've never seen such a ridiculous statement.

I am just starting to catch up but this is new info that surprised me. Yikes! Sounds like she's laying the foundation to say, well if I did have sex with MS it was because I was drunk and/or he looks like CWW? Does LE have evidence that suggests something sexual did occur between AW & MS? On the other end of the spectrum, if AW is telling the truth and does not remember a sexual encounter that occurred while she was drunk, did she consent? If MS and CWW pulled a switcheroo on a drunk AW I really hope she turns on them, soon.
 
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-When asked if she had ever had sex with Mark Sievers, Wright's wife Angela Wright said "not that I know of."

She described how she got "pretty drunk the night before my wedding and don&#8217;t remember bits and pieces of it. ... But seriously, Mark and my husband looked an awful lot alike, too.&#8221;

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/crim...ents-in-Dr-Teresa-Sievers-case-363748851.html

I wonder, given the resemblance between MS and CWW, if this was part of their long standing bond, built over years. I suspect they may have swapped places with females in the past, one stepping away from the action to observe while the other stepped out of the voyeur role and into his place. That feeling of "pulling something over" on inebriated sexual partners could have heightened their enjoyment of the situation. They both strike me as very controlling personalities. Both seem very concerned with presenting themselves how they would like to be viewed. Another means of control for two who seem very into being dominant.

Sick pups. I can only imagine the stuff each has on the other from their many years of friendship.

Most seem to think the similarity is coincidental or a product of their upbringings. My (pure) guess is that they've made efforts to look alike over the last few years. I'd love to see pictures of each from 2010! Having a MS look-a-like around the house the night of the murder may confuse witnesses. MS wouldn't care because he was in CT anyway.
 
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I am even more sickened by MS's actions of sending videos of his affairs to his wife!
This guy gets creepier with every new revelation about him!

Just think what TS was living in or thru or with! This marriage was in deep trouble and the intimacy side had ended, so MS sent her tapes of his rendezvous. JMO. I imagine she could have cared less, it was his childish narcissistic side showing her he could get what he wanted.
One can only imagine the verbal abuse that TS took from MS! She was living in a he77ish nightmare and we only know bits and pieces! IMO.

Please get those Precious girls out of his control. NOW
 
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Could it be possible that CWW/MS set JRR up by fighting over the parking space initially? So he could be used later on as a fall guy with a grudge against MS?
 
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I am even more sickened by MS's actions of sending videos of his affairs to his wife!
This guy gets creepier with every new revelation about him!

Just think what TS was living in or thru or with! This marriage was in deep trouble and the intimacy side had ended, so MS sent her tapes of his rendezvous. JMO. I imagine she could have cared less, it was his childish narcissistic side showing her he could get what he wanted.

One can only imagine the verbal abuse that TS took from MS! She was living in a he77ish nightmare and we only know bits and pieces! IMO.

Please get those prescious girls out of his control. NOW!

We should probably keep our personal morals out of this. Maybe they were both into the swinging life? Maybe they both loved to watch videos of their spouse with another? Frankly; that's immaterial...I truly believe that TS was a good mother.

We need to focus on the fact that TS was murdered in the most vile way. Justice is coming (although a little late - IMO). The next emergency issue is the kids
 
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I am just starting to catch up but this is new info that surprised me. Yikes! Sounds like she's laying the foundation to say, well if I did have sex with MS it was because I was drunk and/or he looks like CWW? Does LE have evidence that suggests something sexual did occur between AW & MS? On the other end of the spectrum, if AW is telling the truth and does not remember a sexual encounter that occurred while she was drunk, did she consent? If MS and CWW pulled a switcheroo on a drunk AW I really hope she turns on them, soon.

What Ive been trying to say is this whole situation has so many similarities to RB murder. However, 20 years ago, SF (Angie's aunt) was the sock puppet. Now Angie is.
 
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Could it be possible that CWW/MS set JRR up by fighting over the parking space initially? So he could be used later on as a fall guy with a grudge against MS?

Absolutly
 
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New documents released in Sievers slaying
10:11 p.m. EST December 29, 2015
http://www.news-press.com/story/new...released-sievers-slaying-check-back/77366320/

Angela Wright, Wayne Wright's bride, knew Mark Sievers growing up. He was the best man at their wedding. Mark Sievers dated Angela Wright&#8217;s mother, who is nearly 12 years his senior, and her aunt when he lived in Missouri.

She never dated Sievers but categorized him as a flirt.

Jerry Lubinski, a friend of Wright's who met Mark Sievers at the wedding, called him charismatic. "He was the life of the party."

He and Wright looked alike, he said. "He could pass &#8230; actually could pass as his brother," Lubinski said of Sievers.

Investigators spent a good deal of their interview with Lubinksi and his live-in girlfriend, SH, nailing down when they saw Wayne Wright and his wife and when Wright called him.

Wow, just wow, I didn't want to read the details of Hillbilly 🤬🤬🤬🤬. (can't think of a better description wright now) So, Mark Sievers had been the boyfriend of ANGIE'S MOTHER, engaged to ANGIE'S AUNT, and did the wild thing with ANGIE the night before her wedding in a Hillsboro trailer park? Oh lordy, family reunions must be a real hoot. (Must be one of the "funny stories" Skinner was alluding to, in regards to Mark Sievers and women, huh?) U-N-B-E-L-I-E-V-A-B-L-E Connectivity.

"Karen Wideman said Tuesday that her daughter Angela Wideman Wright, 42, dated Wright, 47, more than 24 years ago and reconnected with him about a year and a half ago at a church function."
"The entire family is in counseling after Wright's arrest, Wideman said. "I told her, 'You've got to get yourself together.'"
http://www.news-press.com/story/new...ght-mother-law-sievers-link-deep-mo/72633014/
 
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Naples Daily News

Among the new details released are:

-That detectives requested a search warrant for hair from the Sieverses' two dogs and one cat, saying animal hair was found in suspect Curtis Wayne Wright's rental vehicle

-That Wright's wife, Angela Wright, told detectives on July 12 that her husband had gone to Titusville, Florida to help his friend Jerry Lubinski with his auction business, contradicting her earlier story that he had gone to Bonita Springs to help his friend Mark Sievers with some computers

-That Curtis Wayne Wright installed security cameras outside the Sievers residence while he was in town for Dr. Sievers' funeral

-That many of the Sieverses' life insurance policies dated back several years, including a $300,000 policy in Dr. Sievers' name from back in 2000

-That many of the life insurance policies had a hold placed on them by law enforcement due to the pending homicide investigation

-That suspect Jimmy Rodgers and his girlfriend, Taylor Shomaker, denied having contact with Wright for several months, despite photos posted to Facebook showing the three hanging out in the weeks before Sievers was killed

The only thing new to me was the first point about animal hair being found in the rental car. Everything else ..in general .. We have discussed here...I knew. Oh.. I did not know that $300,000 policy was from 2000
 
  • #137
Seems like TS knew MS was having multiple affairs. What changed? I still think there is a woman that became more than an affair. And he wasn't walking away without that money. jmo.
 
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I haven't really followed this case closely . . . but I'm pretty sure I will now. Sadly, TS did not deserve to die and it sounds like MS was planning this for awhile. I assume LEO is putting their case together to bring him to trial. 3 other individuals who could have stopped this menacing plan and TS died. :(
 
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This thread is starting to make "craigslist-casual encounters" ads look like child's play. Two dudes doing "things" with one woman is called "taggin'". The bond that the two dudes develops into one that is stronger than "friends" or "brothers". However having the one woman involved, keeps them "straight".

JMO
 
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Wow, just wow, I didn't want to read the details of Hillbilly 🤬🤬🤬🤬. (can't think of a better description wright now) So, Mark Sievers had been the boyfriend of ANGIE'S MOTHER, engaged to ANGIE'S AUNT, and did the wild thing withANGIE the night before her wedding in a Hillsboro trailer park? Oh lordy, family reunions must be a real hoot. (Must be one of the "funny stories" Skinner was alluding to, in regards to Mark Sievers and women, huh?) U-N-B-E-L-I-E-V-A-B-L-E Connectivity.

"Karen Wideman said Tuesday that her daughter Angela Wideman Wright, 42, dated Wright, 47, more than 24 years ago and reconnected with him about a year and a half ago at a church function."
"The entire family is in counseling after Wright's arrest, Wideman said. "I told her, 'You've got to get yourself together.'"
http://www.news-press.com/story/new...ght-mother-law-sievers-link-deep-mo/72633014/
Im confused. Is Karen Wideman or Kathy Moran the mother of AW or are tbey the same person?
What Ive been trying to say is this whole situation has so many similarities to RB murder. However, 20 years ago, SF (Angie's aunt) was the sock puppet. Now Angie is.

Absolutly


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