2015.12.29 Breaking News!!! New Discovery Docs now released

[atthelake]

One report said it is 3,000 pages and filled 2 boxes. They have only had these docs about 1 1/2 hours. They have barely had time to scratch the surface... We will be seeing these news reports updated all night probably.

It amazes me that they don't do/require that they release things electronically. Could that not make as much money for the state in doing such?

Is that a delay tactic for the release of information to the defense that they have to weed through it if hard copy ?

Doesn't make sense these days and ages as the media will have it released electronically and be able to have searchable documents

 

[Cricket99]

Riding off my own post, but I've never read this before.

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And there you have it - Wrights defense attorneys will say JR did this all by himself cuz he was angry at Mark. Wright probably even tried to stop him!!

 

[concernedmother]

And there you have it - Wrights defense attorneys will say JR did this all by himself cuz he was angry at Mark. Wright probably even tried to stop him!!

I dont think it will matter though. If LE can prove he was in that house too, he is just as guilty no matter who swung the hammer. I think its possible JR did the killing. CWW there to make sure the job got done. jmo

 

[Frigga]

What Ive been trying to say is this whole situation has so many similarities to RB murder. However, 20 years ago, SF (Angie's aunt) was the sock puppet. Now Angie is.

Wow! Thank you Susnoat, that really is something. Thank you for your tenacity. I hope they are able to nail CWW for Ronnie's murder because of this case. I truly believe justice is coming for both Ron and Theresa. The Universe has a way of bringing truth to light one way or another- it's just so very tragic he was able to take another life before being put away for good. They ARE monsters- the whole lot of them.

 

[Kensie]

I am not defending AW in anyway but she may have been forced into doing something she was uncomfortable with as far as CW and MS. You can joke about it but many people live with a perverted spouse and it is demeaning and difficult.

I have not posted here in a long time but felt the need to say something.

 

[concernedmother]

Maybe it happens more often than one would think, but this is the first time I ever heard of someone pimping their bride out the night before their wedding. jmo.

 

[atthelake]

One of the MSM stories which keeps being updated stated that Rodgers and Sievers hated each other.

Over a " parking spot ". After reading all of this it makes me think what is meant by the words "parking spot"...

 

[Kensie]

Maybe it happens more often than one would think, but this is the first time I ever heard of someone pimping their bride out the night before their wedding. jmo.

Count your blessings that you are not in that environment. Pervs thrive on perv. If you are not perv it is difficult.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I am not defending AW in anyway but she may have been forced into doing something she was uncomfortable with as far as CW and MS. You can joke about it but many people live with a perverted spouse and it is demeaning and difficult.

I have not posted here in a long time but felt the need to say something.

Agree. I am just glad that I didn't post what I originally was going to post. It would have may came off the wrong way as being insensitive to woman who have been taken advantage of while drunk. So I decided not to go there.

But I must admit that these circumstances seems different. But since idk. I will keep things simple. Jmo. But thanks.

 

[IQuestion]

Im confused. Is Karen Wideman or Kathy Moran the mother of AW or are tbey the same person?

HEY DEBBIEG! Great question. I wondered the same thing....Kathy Wideman Moran, spouse Ed Moran...from the earlier docs. But maybe "Karen" was a typo or she uses both names interchangeably, I Don't Know.

 

[Kensie]

I will go back to reading. Many people do things that they do not like to keep peace. AW, sounds desperate to me but maybe she truly loves CW and will do whatever to keep peace. Life is complicated.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Maybe it happens more often than one would think, but this is the first time I ever heard of someone pimping their bride out the night before their wedding. jmo.

I think CWW had his eyes on another female that night. And I think that Ms nor Aw didn't mind hooking up while Cww did his thing.

Now unless they have a 6000sqft trailer; Then I wonder why Ms would sleep there as well as no witnesses to a brotherly fun orgy with the bride. Jmo.

Wouldnt MS be in a hotel or something.

Maybe CWW use this to test his wife and best friend. And they may have both failed the test.

This could be why CWW used a hammer to kill marks wife and not a quick gun shot that mark may have requested. Idk

Idk

 

[Kensie]

Swingers and pervs generally do not see Anything wrong with exploiting a person. JMO. My last post. Back to reading, I promise.

 

[RagingClue]

I've been busy the last couple of months and just logged back in tonight--All I can say is WOW--certainly good timing on my part

I was wondering where you went.... Welcome back !

 

[atthelake]

-When asked if she had ever had sex with Mark Sievers, Wright's wife Angela Wright said "not that I know of."

She described how she got "pretty drunk the night before my wedding and don’t remember bits and pieces of it. ... But seriously, Mark and my husband looked an awful lot alike, too.”

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/crim...ents-in-Dr-Teresa-Sievers-case-363748851.html

I wonder, given the resemblance between MS and CWW, if this was part of their long standing bond, built over years. I suspect they may have swapped places with females in the past, one stepping away from the action to observe while the other stepped out of the voyeur role and into his place. That feeling of "pulling something over" on inebriated sexual partners could have heightened their enjoyment of the situation. They both strike me as very controlling personalities. Both seem very concerned with presenting themselves how they would like to be viewed. Another means of control for two who seem very into being dominant.

Sick pups. I can only imagine the stuff each has on the other from their many years of friendship.

"Pretty drunk the night before" coincides with the comment of the 2 hours that they both were in the master bedroom. :thinking:

Where was she when she only remembers bits and pieces of the night before?

 

[atthelake]

Could it be possible that CWW/MS set JRR up by fighting over the parking space initially? So he could be used later on as a fall guy with a grudge against MS?

I still don't understand how he is supposedly the fall guy/ they laid plans for such when most of the evidence points to CWW?

 

[creepingskills]

JMO, what if MS sent those videos to hurt TS? I agree the alternative explanation is irrelevant, but what if MS sent those videos as punishment because he was upset with TS for the lack of sex?:moo: More believable IMO.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I still don't understand how he is supposedly the fall guy/ they laid plans for such when most of the evidence points to CWW?

Agree. JR couldn't be the fall guy since Cww told everyone the plans as well.

Now if CWW killed jr on the scene and said that we were there to fix my buddies computers but his wife came home early and Jr killed her so I killed him in self defense. Then ok.

But besides a theory like that. I doubt JR was the fall guy. Jmo

 

[beach]

It amazes me that they don't do/require that they release things electronically. Could that not make as much money for the state in doing such?

Is that a delay tactic for the release of information to the defense that they have to weed through it if hard copy ?

Doesn't make sense these days and ages as the media will have it released electronically and be able to have searchable documents

Oh lordy, don't even get me started on this. lolol

I have been totally baffled by the way these docs are being released. Of course, the redactions take time to do but I will never understand not sending them electronically (upon receipt of payment), or even load them on a cd and have those available for pick-up or courier. In my point of view, they are causing themselves a ton more work, which leads to delays. Heck, I still don't understand why the SA is releasing them instead of us buying them from the Lee Co. Clerk. That said, our contact there has been extremely professional and very accommodating. Every office staff has their way of doing things. As the old saying goes, "when in Rome, do as the Romans' do."....

 

[beach]

Im confused. Is Karen Wideman or Kathy Moran the mother of AW or are tbey the same person?

HEY DEBBIEG! Great question. I wondered the same thing....Kathy Wideman Moran, spouse Ed Moran...from the earlier docs. But maybe "Karen" was a typo or she uses both names interchangeably, I Don't Know.

Yes. Same person. Angie's mother.

I believe she goes primarily by Karen, but she has been referenced as Kathy before too.