2016.01.07 Docs - Batch 3 Photos *WARNING - GRAPHIC*

[1soccermom22]

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There is a pillow without a case in one of the girls' rooms. The sheets look to be a similar color to the fabric with blood stains. Not sure how to post photos so forgive me if this doesn't come out right.

 

[DeDee]

Yes, I was wondering if there was a photo of female undergarments, BUT....I also remembered reading on a search warrant that (so sorry for having to bring this up...but it is a fact) the search warrant on JRR not only asked for a bucal (spelling?) swab but also for pubic hair.....BY FORCE IF NECESSARY. It really has me asking some questions that have not been addressed, thus far. JRR has become a less "sympatetic" character as I read what he posted on his FB account. Did anyone else have a strange or "hair raised on the back of your neck response" when you read the warrant request on JRR's biologicals????
BATES #4670..request for pubic hair, even if by force (just so you know, I read every single line and took notes. ) I had to refer to my notes to find the actual place where it was requested, and want to thank you for your patience in advance in allowing me to post until I could find it
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JRR not only asked for a bucal (spelling?) swab but also for pubic hair

Oh, my. You don't think we'll see sexual assault charges, do you? GB what that sweet little lady went through makes me detest MS with every fiber of my being.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

Oh, my. You don't think we'll see sexual assault charges, do you? GB what that sweet little lady went through makes me detest MS with every fiber of my being.

I hope not and the timeline was tight the evening TS was killed. JR and CWW are idiots but I don't even think they're stupid enough to leave that kind of DNA evidence at the scene of a hit.

I suspect that LE requested JR's pubic hair to tie him to the jumpsuit found in MO or to hair in the house or rental car.

 

[Dmacky]

I hope not and the timeline was tight the evening TS was killed. JR and CWW are idiots but I don't even think they're stupid enough to leave that kind of DNA evidence at the scene of a hit.

I suspect that LE requested JR's pubic hair to tie him to the jumpsuit found in MO or to hair in the house or rental car.

IIRC They got one from CWW too. I wonder if one of them (or they) went to the bathroom while they were there?

 

[atthelake]

I hope not and the timeline was tight the evening TS was killed. JR and CWW are idiots but I don't even think they're stupid enough to leave that kind of DNA evidence at the scene of a hit.

I suspect that LE requested JR's pubic hair to tie him to the jumpsuit found in MO or to hair in the house or rental car.

IIRC They got one from CWW too. I wonder if one of them (or they) went to the bathroom while they were there?

In the indexing for the second document dump, Search warrants for both CWW and JRR. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?295777-Sievers-Documents-miscellaneous-and-discovery-docs&p=12271360#post12271360

PDF page 221-222
Bates 4572-4573
Search Warrant on CWW person, to include blood, saliva, scalp/facial/pubic hair and photos (October 13 2015)

PDF page 319
Bates 4673
Search warrant for Jimmy Ray Rodgers head hair, face hair, pubic hair during his incarceration (October 13 2015)

Yes Dmacky, your recollection is on target! HTH

ETA: revisited original warrant as to determine if above is correct. JRR did not have blood / saliva warrant as CWW did?



AZL... why do you think that law enforcement did not subpoena JRR as was CWW for blood/saliva?

ETA#2... both below cut/paste from above link. JRR did not have as an extensive subpoena as CWW for blood/bodily fluids.



JRR.............




CWW...................

 

[Dmacky]

Thank you ATL for finding and posting this :hug:
CWW:
Hair to include the follicle and or or bulb
Scalp hair, a minimum of 25 hairs to be pulled from 5 different regions
to include top :eye::eye: side, back, and nape of neck.
:thinking: Good luck with that request. :giggle:


Pubic hair, a minimum of 25 to be pulled from different regions. :hills:

 

[NSS]

Wonder if drug testing will also be run on these samples?

 

[NSS]

Thank you ATL for finding and posting this :hug:
CWW:
Hair to include the follicle and or or bulb
Scalp hair, a minimum of 25 hairs to be pulled from 5 different regions
to include top :eye::eye: side, back, and nape of neck.
View attachment 88142 :thinking: Good luck with that request. :giggle:


Pubic hair, a minimum of 25 to be pulled from different regions. :hills:

I suggest they pluck his facial hair. ouch!

 

[Dmacky]

I suggest they pluck his facial hair. ouch!

That was also on the warrant NNS. I just didn't post that one because he has plenty of hair on his face.
You're right though, plucking hard enough to get the bulb will be painful :giggle:

Here it is: (credit goes to atthelake)

 

[FelicityLemon]

In the indexing for the second document dump, Search warrants for both CWW and JRR. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?295777-Sievers-Documents-miscellaneous-and-discovery-docs&p=12271360#post12271360

PDF page 221-222
Bates 4572-4573
Search Warrant on CWW person, to include blood, saliva, scalp/facial/pubic hair and photos (October 13 2015)

PDF page 319
Bates 4673
Search warrant for Jimmy Ray Rodgers head hair, face hair, pubic hair during his incarceration (October 13 2015)

Yes Dmacky, your recollection is on target! HTH

ETA: revisited original warrant as to determine if above is correct. JRR did not have blood / saliva warrant as CWW did?



AZL... why do you think that law enforcement did not subpoena JRR as was CWW for blood/saliva?

ETA#2... both below cut/paste from above link. JRR did not have as an extensive subpoena as CWW for blood/bodily fluids.



JRR.............

View attachment 88105


CWW...................



View attachment 88106

Regarding pubic hair samples: possibly necessary with so many men shaving their heads these days? ew. I'm thinking not too many metrosexual criminals who landscape their entire bodies. Some do, but, but ew.

 

[FelicityLemon]

I suggest they pluck his facial hair. ouch!

Nose hair in particular.

 

[Mountaingazer]

Thank you ATL for finding and posting this :hug:
CWW:
Hair to include the follicle and or or bulb
Scalp hair, a minimum of 25 hairs to be pulled from 5 different regions
to include top :eye::eye: side, back, and nape of neck.
View attachment 88142 :thinking: Good luck with that request. :giggle:


Pubic hair, a minimum of 25 to be pulled from different regions. :hills:

I feel for whoever had to collect all those hairs! Add that to the list of jobs I never want to do!

 

[mikeinmo]

I feel for whoever had to collect all those hairs! Add that to the list of jobs I never want to do!

Being that I was in an industry that required mandatory and random drug testing it can be embarrassing if there is not head facial or chest hair. they do wan,t a lot of times a minimum length of hair for drug testing that is to check past 3 to 6 mo.

 

[No it's not]

Being that I was in an industry that required mandatory and random drug testing it can be embarrassing if there is not head facial or chest hair. they do wan,t a lot of times a minimum length of hair for drug testing that is to check past 3 to 6 mo.

Check out the FBI standards in human hair examination..interesting read (while waiting for the next doc dump).

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/lab/fo...5/index.htm/standards/2005_04_standards02.htm

 

[U2forever]

I feel for whoever had to collect all those hairs! Add that to the list of jobs I never want to do!

I wonder if the hair collector has to comb the hair first. [emoji69]🏻[emoji43]
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[mikeinmo]

Check out the FBI standards in human hair examination..interesting read (while waiting for the next doc dump).

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/lab/fo...5/index.htm/standards/2005_04_standards02.htm

Thanks NIN for this is very interesting reading most people will question what areas can hair be taken from section 10.2 has good explanation 10.2. Somatic OriginSomatic origin types may include scalp, pubic, facial, limb and body, and eyebrow and eyelash hairs. Somatic origin of human hair can usually be established by considering features, such as length, cross-sectional shape, shaft configuration, medullary configuration, texture, taper, and appearance of the root.

 

[human]

I asked but no one ever responded. I do not have the link, but there is a pic of the master bedroom with the bed and the hospital table.

When you look at the pic, on the left hand side on the floor, there is some yellowish stuff on the floor. Does anyone know what that is?

 

[Frigga]

^^^ I thought it looked like some sort of celophane wrap?

 

[debbiegarcia36]

^^^ I thought it looked like some sort of celophane wrap?

It almost looks like the plastic wrap that dry cleaners use to wrap your dry cleaning.

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[Maxine2U]

I asked but no one ever responded. I do not have the link, but there is a pic of the master bedroom with the bed and the hospital table.

When you look at the pic, on the left hand side on the floor, there is some yellowish stuff on the floor. Does anyone know what that is?

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B717FUtKwdU8S2dVSXF4UHpjYWc&usp=drive_webz

Looks like cellophane or plastic something to me too.

ETA: well shoot I didn't link to the exact pic. GRRRRR. It's Bates #29584. That's the only pic that I found where you can see it. Looks like they moved some stuff out of the way to get to it or pulled it out from under the bed??? :dunno: