2016.02.26 Mark D. Sievers: Charged with Murder in the 2nd Degree

[human]

Pleading not guilty s a legal maneuver. There are better explanations on the net, but here are some. And, what happened to the thousands of dollars that he had in the house?????

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-defendants-who-are-clearly-and-obviously-guilty-often-plead-not-guilty

 

[Greater Than]

Mrs Ark- Mark's arraignment has been moved to April 18th- BTW- just wanted to let you know.

April 18th is his arraignment in dependency court (regarding the girls).

Monday is still his arraignment in criminal court. Since he already submitted his plea in writing, he may wave his appearance. But he is still on the judge's schedule:

http://www.ca.cjis20.org/pdf/schedules/mfechner/3-28 DIV E UPDATED.pdf

 

[Greater Than]

He's got 5,000 in the bank. But what about the 40,000+ that was in his house? Did he give that to his mom to keep for him?
I think that's a stretch lie. What year is the Mercedes?

IDK but he's clearly not claiming all he has. I guess with the $40k he wouldn't be declared indigent, but with the $40k he still couldn't afford his own attorney so he conviently left the cash in his safe out of the equation? Sounds like fraud to me.

But claiming so little in the bank with so much outstanding debt sure lends itself to the 4 million dollar motive IMO.

 

[Frigga]

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April 18th is his arraignment in dependency court (regarding the girls).

Monday is still his arraignment in criminal court. Since he already submitted his plea in writing, he may wave his appearance. But he is still on the judge's schedule:

http://www.ca.cjis20.org/pdf/schedules/mfechner/3-28 DIV E UPDATED.pdf

Oh- thanks. My mistake!

 

[DaleTray]

IDK but he's clearly not claiming all he has. I guess with the $40k he wouldn't be declared indigent, but with the $40k he still couldn't afford his own attorney so he conveniently left the cash in his safe out of the equation?

Just goes to show all of us here on WSs probably fall into one of two categories. The honest ones or the lazy ones. Now that I think about it today I am sort of surprised it hasn't been reported that someone has entered the house and made off with the safes.
(it's not as if I am suggesting I would enjoy MS not have 40K casual funds that a relative or friend could slowly funnel into his prison canteen account) (or would be sad if his 40K wasn't there when he tries to retrieve at a future date)....or....maybe that is why he was creeping next door...to see neighbors field of view to see if neighbors could see MS preparing for his imminent arrest so he dug a hold in his back yard and buried cash......and yes, I do have an appropriate pic for this post but will refrain

 

[Frigga]

I would assume he blew through the $40 grand over the past 8 months. He had utilities, the mortgage, food and an attorney during that time frame. He retained Mr Hollander within a week after the hired hit was carried out. We know from an insider he continued to have lawn service and even some work done and concrete removed. He probably kept up with the pool service too.

 

[DaleTray]

I would assume he blew through the $40 grand over the past 8 months. He had utilities, the mortgage, food and an attorney during that time frame. He retained Mr Hollander within a week after the hired hit was carried out. We know from an insider he continued to have lawn service and even some work done and concrete removed. He probably kept up with the pool service too.

I guess I can put aside thoughts of pulling a 14 hr drive tonight

 

[1&2&3]

Still curious what that trailer that was parked in his drive way for several days was doing? One of our locals posted a picture and kept us updated is how we knew about it.

Wonder if it was the safes or the contents of the safes being loaded inside? Heck, MS may have had hidden spaces that LE didn't find. From above post, ^^^^DaleTray, that is too funny about a hole in the backyard. . . Who is going to retrieve the money when the house is foreclosed/sold?

 

[DaleTray]

. . Who is going to retrieve the money when the house is foreclosed/sold?

Maybe in MS mind he will beat this charge or have it greatly reduced. The house will have been sold so he will have to just sneak into back yard with a shovel. It beats money being discovered in a safe deposit box or somewhere where it can be traced and go to the TS estate. But like Frigga said he probably blew right through 40K with his bills previous 8 months......but I bet he was receiving a nice monthly check from SS on the girls losing their mother. It's probably been discussed and my poor memory just cant recall but if MS chooses to sell house on Jarvis now and even his condo in Missouri would that cash be at his disposal or would that be somehow figured into the TS estate. I will assume since TS death everything goes to MS....other than the life insurance if/when MS is convicted. Liabilities and debts considered, if he sells both homes and settles up i doubt he would clear more than 250K. I am sure his legal counsel has already crunched these numbers (No disrespect intended AZ):blushing:

 

[Dmacky]

IDK but he's clearly not claiming all he has. I guess with the $40k he wouldn't be declared indigent, but with the $40k he still couldn't afford his own attorney so he conviently left the cash in his safe out of the equation? .
Sounds like fraud to me
But claiming so little in the bank with so much outstanding debt sure lends itself to the 4 million dollar motive IMO.

He knows that all 3 vehicles would sell for more than 14k. The Mercedes itself is worth that! All the money he doesn't seem to have sounds like fraud to me too, but then again that's how the man has skated thru life on TS's coattails. That suit alone he got at the auction in March (for TS's impending FUNERAL) is worth a pretty penny alone. Every time I see him strutting in like a peacock with so much confidence I want to smack the $h*t outta him.
He literally makes my stomach turn. uke:

Coin collection = $$
Gun collection = $$$

 

[DaleTray]

Does anyone know the year of mftr on TS white Mercedes? I can find pics but can't find yr listed anywhere.

 

[Dmacky]

Does anyone know the year of mftr on TS white Mercedes? I can find pics but can't find yr listed anywhere.

No, but I have tried to find out!

 

[Deleted member 39678]

The Florida statute that covers indigent status in criminal cases is rather lengthy. Here are some parts that I found interesting.

[SIZE=-1]27.52 Determination of indigent status
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[SIZE=-1](a) An applicant, including an applicant who is a minor or an adult tax-dependent person, is indigent if the applicant’s income is equal to or below 200 percent of the then-current federal poverty guidelines prescribed for the size of the household of the applicant by the United States Department of Health and Human Services or if the person is receiving Temporary Assistance for Needy Families-Cash Assistance, poverty-related veterans’ benefits, or Supplemental Security Income (SSI).1. There is a presumption that the applicant is not indigent if the applicant owns, or has equity in, any intangible or tangible personal property or real property or the expectancy of an interest in any such property having a net equity value of $2,500 or more, excluding the value of the person’s homestead and one vehicle having a net value not exceeding $5,000.
2. Notwithstanding the information that the applicant provides, the clerk may conduct a review of the property records for the county in which the applicant resides and the motor vehicle title records of the state to identify any property interests of the applicant under this paragraph. The clerk may evaluate and consider the results of the review in making a determination under this subsection. If the review is [SUP]1[/SUP]conducted, the clerk shall maintain the results of the review in a file with the application and provide the file to the court if the applicant seeks review under subsection (4) of the clerk’s determination of indigent status.


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http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...tute&URL=0000-0099/0027/Sections/0027.52.html

 

[Deleted member 39678]

This part covers fraud in filing an application for indigent status.

[SIZE=-1](7) FINANCIAL DISCREPANCIES; FRAUD; FALSE INFORMATION.—(a) If the court learns of discrepancies between the application or motion and the actual financial status of the person found to be indigent or indigent for costs, the court shall determine whether the public defender, office of criminal conflict and civil regional counsel, or private attorney shall continue representation or whether the authorization for any other due process services previously authorized shall be revoked. The person may be heard regarding the information learned by the court. If the court, based on the information, determines that the person is not indigent or indigent for costs, the court shall order the public defender, office of criminal conflict and civil regional counsel, or private attorney to discontinue representation and revoke the provision of any other authorized due process services.
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http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...tute&URL=0000-0099/0027/Sections/0027.52.html

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I'm wondering how this part works in this case.

[SIZE=-1]2. Notwithstanding the information that the applicant provides, the clerk may conduct a review of the property records for the county in which the applicant resides and the motor vehicle title records of the state to identify any property interests of the applicant under this paragraph. The clerk may evaluate and consider the results of the review in making a determination under this subsection.[/SIZE]

What if the applicant owns real estate in another state? If the clerk only checks property records in the county which the applicant resides they would miss property which MS owns out of state.

What happens if MS had transferred the title of the Mercedes to someone else? It wouldn't show up under his name in a motor vehicle title search.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...tute&URL=0000-0099/0027/Sections/0027.52.html

 

[Matlacha]

I would assume he blew through the $40 grand over the past 8 months. He had utilities, the mortgage, food and an attorney during that time frame. He retained Mr Hollander within a week after the hired hit was carried out. We know from an insider he continued to have lawn service and even some work done and concrete removed. He probably kept up with the pool service too.

What about sex? A guy needing multiple encounters a day and facing (at best) life in prison would want to score while still free to do so; but with all the bad press, dinner and a movie probably wouldn't do it (though he did gain weight). No, he probably needed to move from women in the professions to professional women. Eight months, 30 days a month, at least two encounters a day (maybe more with the stress), and a guy like Mark could easily f--I mean fritter--away $40,000 even with no other expenses. Time of your life, huh kid?

 

[howonkee]

The Florida statute that covers indigent status in criminal cases is rather lengthy. Here are some parts that I found interesting.



http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...tute&URL=0000-0099/0027/Sections/0027.52.html

He does own the condo in MO. I would imagine there's more than $2500 in equity in it. As for the personal property, there probably was at least that much in the extensive gun and coin collection. Surely, between both of those things, he would seem to be ineligible for indigency status. I think he may have had the guy in the purple truck take all the guns, coins and any other valuables out of the house. But since it is known that he did own those items, there seems to be a basis for a determination of fraudulently claimed financial status.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

He does own the condo in MO. I would imagine there's more than $2500 in equity in it. As for the personal property, there probably was at least that much in the extensive gun and coin collection. Surely, between both of those things, he would seem to be ineligible for indigency status. I think he may have had the guy in the purple truck take all the guns, coins and any other valuables out of the house. But since it is known that he did own those items, there seems to be a basis for a determination of fraudulently claimed financial status.

I wonder if it's possible for MS to "give away" all of his more valuable possessions in order to meet the indigent status requirements.

I would imagine it's legal.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I may have found an answer to one of my questions.

[SIZE=-1]There is a presumption that the applicant is not indigent if the applicant owns, or has equity in, any intangible or tangible personal property or real property or the expectancy of an interest in any such property having a net equity value of $2,500 or more, excluding the value of the person’s homestead and one vehicle having a net value not exceeding $5,000.[/SIZE]

If MS transfers title or gives possession of property to a close friend or family member, it could be considered he has an expectancy that he will get the property back at a later date.

JMO

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...tute&URL=0000-0099/0027/Sections/0027.52.html

 

[Timekeeper65]

He knows that all 3 vehicles would sell for more than 14k. The Mercedes itself is worth that! All the money he doesn't seem to have sounds like fraud to me too, but then again that's how the man has skated thru life on TS's coattails. That suit alone he got at the auction in March (for TS's impending FUNERAL) is worth a pretty penny alone. Every time I see him strutting in like a peacock with so much confidence I want to smack the $h*t outta him.
He literally makes my stomach turn. uke:

Coin collection = $$
Gun collection = $$$

DMacky, I really like you. Puhleez don't use Peacock to describe MS!

Like you said before...

Thank ya, thank ya very much. (Where's Elvis when I need him?).