4 infants found dead when landlord cleaned out rental home - Sept 2025 - Ford City PA

  • #181
Sadly none of them got the chance to be toddlers. I would be interested to know the gender of the babies lost and the ones allowed to live and did this have any bearing on their fate.
JMO
Wonder if we will ever learn the genders of the infants. Or cause of death. She’s charged with 1 count of homicide, and 1 count of involuntary manslaughter, so they must have evidence that at least two infants were alive at birth. Hopefully, they aren’t basing those charges off of what JM told them. Her defense attorney is alluding to JM’s version of facts possibly not being accurate. One fact can’t be disputed. She concealed the infant’s bodies.
 
  • #182
Wonder if we will ever learn the genders of the infants. Or cause of death. She’s charged with 1 count of homicide, and 1 count of involuntary manslaughter, so they must have evidence that at least two infants were alive at birth. Hopefully, they aren’t basing those charges off of what JM told them. Her defense attorney is alluding to JM’s version of facts possibly not being accurate. One fact can’t be disputed. She concealed the infant’s bodies.

Is there evidence? Or is it because she admitted the 2 were alive and how they died? I think she said that very early on
 
  • #183
Do prosecutors need autopsy evidence that a deceased newborn was alive and can't use the mother's words that they were born alive as evidence against her?

One of JM's stories is similar to Laken Snellings ( did she read about SL?)
I had read that the 2 infants were females and I remember thinking that she has 2 sons...but nothing was reported about the sex of the other 2 deceased babies.
imo

"About a year ago, Mauthe told investigators, she gave birth to a child who made several noises before she held the child "against her, where it remained until it stopped making noises and stopped breathing," police wrote.

Mauthe told troopers that one newborn had whimpered after she gave birth to it about six years ago, after which she passed out on the floor, according to the affidavit. When she awakened, the baby was beneath her and was not breathing, she told them.'


 
  • #184
"State police investigators say Mauthe told them some of the babies were born alive, while others fell into the toilet and made no sounds. As to why she didn't report the births, in one instance, she allegedly told troopers she didn't want to get in trouble because she was on suboxone, an anti-addiction drug she didn't have a prescription for. '


 
  • #185
Is there evidence? Or is it because she admitted the 2 were alive and how they died? I think she said that very early on
JM’s defense stated that no scientific evidence was presented at the hearing. Despite her confession, the state can’t get a conviction unless they can prove that a crime actually happened. Her defense seems to be indicating that no evidence of homicide has been offered. Possibly awaiting final autopsy reports?

JMO
 
  • #186
So JM and Snelling can both walk away with just abuse of a corpse(s) and not reporting a birth.
Why would either woman tell LE that the baby (s) were alive if they weren't?
It worked with the other mother who burned her babys remains so the autopsy was inconclusive and she skated.
Forgot her name.
imo
 
  • #187
JM’s defense stated that no scientific evidence was presented at the hearing. Despite her confession, the state can’t get a conviction unless they can prove that a crime actually happened. Her defense seems to be indicating that no evidence of homicide has been offered. Possibly awaiting final autopsy reports?

JMO

Sorry that was an early morning not thinking moment. I missed like half of your post lol I agree I hope there is more evidence than we’ve heard of to support that but I can’t figure out how there could be.
 
  • #188
Sorry that was an early morning not thinking moment. I missed like half of your post lol I agree I hope there is more evidence than we’ve heard of to support that but I can’t figure out how there could be.
Aw you’re fine! I’m trying to sort it all out, too. I have no idea how the medical examiner determines if the infant remains were alive at birth. :(
 
  • #189
Aw you’re fine! I’m trying to sort it all out, too. I have no idea how the medical examiner determines if the infant remains were alive at birth. :(
There is few tests, but afaik, them do not always give reliable results. Also body decompose bit different if the infant has died in utero than after being born, but longer the period after the day of their passing the more harder it becomes.

I am not adding links here, but there is information on these methods online in sources related to forensic pathology about this subject.
 
  • #190
I would think out of wedlock means exactly that, that the father is unknown.
Why would ''out of wedlock" mean the father is unknown? It just means she was not married when she had the baby.

"Out of wedlock" shouldn't have anything to do with whether she knew who the father was. Just because you're unmarried when you have a baby, doesn't mean the father isn't known.
 
  • #191
The 'out of wedlock' part of the charge is probably just antiquated language from olden times. If it was used intentionally (which I doubt), perhaps the purpose was to clearly release JM's husband from any responsibility in the criminal case.

JMO
 
  • #192
The 'out of wedlock' part of the charge is probably just antiquated language from olden times. If it was used intentionally (which I doubt), perhaps the purpose was to clearly release JM's husband from any responsibility in the criminal case.

JMO
That's how I see it. And I don't know how US does it, but here it's pretty much common to put down the child under your husband, even if they were not really his. The system seriously do suck at this part, and courts don't like to change the fact either. But if you're live-in partner, the child would be "out of wedlock"/unknown, unless the father is there to confirm the baby being theirs within few months, after which they require paternity test as a proof (they tests the mom's too.)
 
  • #193

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