4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 73

[Dotta]

I guess this house was too much of a burden for the owner's shoulders.

JMO

 

[10ofRods]

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[10ofRods]

Absolutely agree! The coroner estimated TOD determination on site and the ME autopsy results.

edit: And maybe there was a forensic pathologist involved since the fbi was called in early on?
EBM JMO

The medical examiners for Spokane are forensic pathologists. They have a brand new, state of the art facility as well as colleagues at the University of Washington/Seattle who are at the forefront of several types of forensic research.

I am awaiting the autopsy reports patiently - no telling when we'll see them. But I do believe it was the Spokane team who did the autopsies and not the FBI.

IMO.

MOO He may have meant someone else but he was standing in his parents house which was entered as aggressively as possible, flash banged, doors and windows broken open.

Exactly. His parents were likely ushered out to separate squad cars for questioning in their pajamas and robes, while BK was taken from his bed, searched and asked to dress (and read his rights, no doubt). They didn't let BK wander around the house to talk to his parents - and they didn't let him go over to talk to them after his arrest (or even see them, IMO). He might have got a glimpse of his parents being escorted out of the house and thought they'd been arrested too.

To me, that's Occam's Razor.

IMO.

 

[Sleuth2010]

I guess this house was too much of a burden for the owner's shoulders.

JMO

There is nothing but sorrow. A memorial (garden) is a healing and consoling space. Loves loves loves loves.

 

[Nila Aella]

The medical examiners for Spokane are forensic pathologists. They have a brand new, state of the art facility as well as colleagues at the University of Washington/Seattle who are at the forefront of several types of forensic research.

I am awaiting the autopsy reports patiently - no telling when we'll see them. But I do believe it was the Spokane team who did the autopsies and not the FBI.

IMO.

I agree about where the autopsies were conducted.
I was thinking that maybe a fbi forensic pathologist visited the crime scene. JMO

 

[10ofRods]

Bryan's question about someone else being arrested was likely based on what he believed at the time and not on his sudden desire to learn more about laws and how those laws or facts might affect his parents.

Did BK believe that he had involved his parents (even if he knew they were unwitting)? How did BK think the police viewed the matter? That's who he was talking to: the police who were now in his parents' house in the middle of the night, having broken glass and entered with weapons.

He was not speaking to the world. He was speaking to the people who were arresting him for four murders in Idaho.

He may well have believed, given that the search warrant was being executed on his parents' entire property, that they were in trouble too. He had no way of knowing at that exact moment whether he, himself, was being considered a fugitive.

IMO.

 

[Sleuth2010]

I guess this house was too much of a burden for the owner's shoulders.

JMO

IMO
The house is only sorrow. A memorial (garden) is a healing and consoling space. Love love love love. MOO
IMOO JMO

 

[10ofRods]

I agree about where the autopsies were conducted.
I was thinking that maybe a fbi forensic pathologist visited the crime scene. JMO

Could be - although the bodies were removed sometime in the wee hours of the 14th, IIRC. Forensic pathologists typically do autopsies and make slides for lab analysis. If such slides were needed from the house, there sure could have been one at the house.

What I'd like to know is if any of the bodies were subjected to MRI analysis of their knife wounds, to see if there were any microscopic metal fragments.

So much we don't know!

IMO.

 

[Charlot123]

I bet he thought he had a lucky escape.
Home, sweet home
Ha!

JMO

Some things make sense though. For example, waiting till home to dispose of stuff in neighbors' bins.

 

[Dotta]

Some things make sense though. For example, waiting till home to dispose of stuff in neighbors' bins.

He should be careful not to mess with his future neighbours.
Just saying.

 

[Cool Cats]

Agree, MOO he did not tell father. I don’t think father had any suspicion on the road trip from his demeanor in either of the police stops.
But he may have had some idea after from BKs behavior while at home, “out damn spot etc..”
I am sure no one wants to charge this poor father with anything, but the truth remains if the father came to the conclusion that BK committed the murders, his status changed to accessory for providing harbor. And I think a criminalogy student would be sensitive to what that would mean.

No proof BK even asked if anyone else was arrested. This came out at the same time as the bogus jail assertions that BK was talking to inmates in jail and exposing himself.

According to Brian Entin of NewsNationNow, one of the first comments Kohberger reportedly made came shortly after he was arrested.

"I am told when Idaho quadruple homicide suspect Bryan Christopher Kohberger was in custody—he 'asked if anyone else was arrested.' I'm told he had a 'quiet, blank stare,'" Entin tweeted. Newsweek has been unable to independently verify these comments.

Everything Bryan Kohberger has said about Idaho murders

In a statement on January 1, Kohberger's public defender said that his client "is eager to be exonerated."

www.newsweek.com

 

[Shamrock1]

Agree, MOO he did not tell father. I don’t think father had any suspicion on the road trip from his demeanor in either of the police stops.
But he may have had some idea after from BKs behavior while at home, “out damn spot etc..”
I am sure no one wants to charge this poor father with anything, but the truth remains if the father came to the conclusion that BK committed the murders, his status changed to accessory for providing harbor. And I think a criminalogy student would be sensitive to what that would mean.

There is zero evidence that the father could be charged as an accessory. Further, it doesn’t matter what the father “concluded” or suspected because the requirement is knowledge. Even if the father found his thoughts wandering to the possibility, that’s not knowledge.

 

[Cool Cats]

That's not how I'm reading the law. For Dad to be guilty of accessory after the fact, he had to know his son committed the crime AND BK had to be in hiding (or named a suspect), which he wasn't. The father helping him hide is what would get him that charge. MOO.

If my adult son is staying at my house and tells me he committed murder it is not against the law for me to not say anything.

However, if LE questions me about it and I try to cover for my son by making misleading statements to LE, then that is obstruction of justice and lying to police officers

To harbor a fugitive in your house an arrest warrant has to have been issued. You are not harboring a fugitive without that arrest warrant.

2 Cents

 

[Cool Cats]

BK's dad did not commit a crime. Not fair to him to make it sound like he helped BK flee or harbored BK as a fugitive.

No proof BK even asked if anyone else was arrested and if he did that doesn't mean his dad helped cover for him. 2 Cents

BK's dad cooperated with LE according to his family's statement:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1609657267833696257

 

[Montecore1]

Investigation Discovery will be airing an hour long documentary on this case in two weeks. The "comprehensive" special claims it will dig deep into the evidence and introduce theories around the crime, legal proceedings and offer insight from investigative journalists and crime experts.

ID Announces New Hour-Long Special 'The Idaho College Murders'

'The Idaho College Murders' will premiere on Sunday, March 12 at 10/9c and will be available to stream the same day on discovery+.

www.investigationdiscovery.com

 

[Deleted member 718]

26 February 2023

Bryan Kohberger could face FIRING SQUAD if he's convicted

Accused Idaho murderer Bryan Kohberger could face a firing squad if he is found guilty for the quadruple homicide of four college students last year.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Boxer]

There is zero evidence that the father could be charged as an accessory. Further, it doesn’t matter what the father “concluded” or suspected because the requirement is knowledge. Even if the father found his thoughts wandering to the possibility, that’s not knowledge.

Brian Laundrie’s parents were in a bit similar situation, his girlfriend was missing he went home.
states have different laws regarding accessory after the fact in regards to parents, apparently Florida shields them.

Law may protect Brian Laundrie’s parents from accessory charges but not from other allegations

Parents cannot be charged as accessories after the fact under Florida law, but the exemption stops there.

www.wfla.com

I am not saying the father was an accessory after the fact, I am saying BK would be aware his parents could be in that jeopardy and asked if anyone else was arrested meaning his parents.

Every state has a different stature in the matter.Some but not all shield parents in some way.

BK in fact did have a warrant out for his arrest while he was at his parents house.

 

[Muddy K]

I'm glad the house will be demolished, but I'm also mindful that the actual demolition could be put off pending discussions between the defense and prosecution. Maybe those discussions have already happened, maybe both sides are satisified with 3D renderings and thousands of photos; I don't know. JMO

I remember the O.J. Simpson jury doing walkthroughs. In particular, it was important that they be able to view the constricted area alongside the house where the glove - "if it doesn't fit, you must acquit" - was found by Kato Kaelin and to see the very, very small space in front of Nicole Brown's condo where the victims were found.

OMG, I can't believe that was all the way back in 1995!

Sinpson Jury Vists Crime Scenes

 

[Cool Cats]

Brian Laundrie’s parents were in a bit similar situation, his girlfriend was missing he went home.
states have different laws regarding accessory after the fact in regards to parents, apparently Florida shields them.

Law may protect Brian Laundrie’s parents from accessory charges but not from other allegations

Parents cannot be charged as accessories after the fact under Florida law, but the exemption stops there.

www.wfla.com

I am not saying the father was an accessory after the fact, I am saying BK would be aware his parents could be in that jeopardy and asked if anyone else was arrested meaning his parents.

Every state has a different stature in the matter.Some but not all shield parents in some way.

BK in fact did have a warrant out for his arrest while he was at his parents house.

Not likely BK asked if anyone else was arrested because Newsweek tried to confirm this and wasn't able to. The source for this isn't a reliable source. "I was told this" is not reliable.

Please link if you find a better source. Thank you.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Agree, MOO he did not tell father. I don’t think father had any suspicion on the road trip from his demeanor in either of the police stops.
But he may have had some idea after from BKs behavior while at home, “out damn spot etc..”
I am sure no one wants to charge this poor father with anything, but the truth remains if the father came to the conclusion that BK committed the murders, his status changed to accessory for providing harbor. And I think a criminalogy student would be sensitive to what that would mean.

I disagree. He did not harbor his son. His son had a planned trip out of town and the father had planned to accompany him. They weren't hiding. They didn't change cars. They didn't paint the car. They didn't wear masks. They literally did nothing to evade police. We know this because police found them - twice - in IN. The FBI tailed them. There is nothing to suggest the father broke any laws, whether he knew or didn't know that BK did this.

MOO.