4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 73

[whiterhino]

I think if it had been a regular thing with him to glove constantly, we would have heard about it at least from his fellow students at WSU or from the people who knew him from his apartment building. They talked about him being weird and staring and giving a strange vibe and being creepy and sexist, but no one mentioned wearing gloves all the time or being anxious about germs. According to a relative he was rigorous about the utensils used for his food, but that seems to be an attitude common to a number of vegans, based on prior conversations on the threads.

MOO

Agreed.

I've misworded and misedited my comment about wearing gloves due to neurosis lol! What I meant to say is that BK could have been anxious for various reasons, whether it is because he is a germaphobe or due to the fact that he is/was hiding something. I doubt he was doing it for his own personal beliefs/reasons. JMOO.

I have heard this to be true about utensils. For some it is also religious and therefore quite strict but not meant to offend anyone else. Not to go OT but I once met a vegan person who wouldn't give me the time of day once they found out that I was not also vegan.

 

[Boxer]

Yes, there were a total of three knives. I confused item 47 with the Smith and Wesson, but Item No. 1 just says “knife” with no other description. I am hoping that is THE knife. The importance of it being the first item on the list stood out to me…IMO

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Like a Kabar, iconic.

Examples In sheaths are double edged dirk boot knives, fighting/utility knives and fish knives.

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[Nova]

I'm a little skeptical it says "ID cards" only because there is a separate line item for "Personal identifying documents," which sounds to me like the same thing. But who knows.

I admit I can't see it.

But could it say "ID (UDS)"? As in "University of DeSales"? Actually, it's DeSales University, but the writer may not have known that.

 

[jcamh]

I read there were 5 vehicles impounded... Xana, Kaylee, Ethan, Ethan's brother... and who else?

Ethan's brother's car which was parked behind Ethan's car.

 

[Cool Cats]

Final search warrants reveal knife, gun in Kohberger’s PA home

MONROE COUNTY (WBRE/WYOU) — The final two unsealed search warrants have revealed more about what police found in Bryan Kohberger’s family home in Pennsylvania’s Pocono Mountains in late Decemb…

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According to documents, state police seized items inside the car including:

• 7 quarters, 36 dimes, 32 nickels, 8 pennies,
• Gloves
• Receipts
• Car insurance, registration
• Hiking boots
• Comfort Inn room key holder
• Tire irons,
• Shovel
• Goggles
• Wrench
• Door panel
• Band-aids

The second warrant was focusing on weapons inside the Kohberger’s home that could connect him to the scene of the crime, police stated.

The following items were seized from inside the home:

• Knife
• Glock 22. .40 Caliber
• Smith Wesson pocket knife
• Three Block .40 Caliber magazines that were empty
• Tayor cutlery knife with leather sheath
• Black face mask
• Black gloves
• Black hat
• Black mask
• AT&T bill for Bryan Kohberger
• Book with underlining on page 118
• Prescriptions
• Cell phone
• Laptop
• Multiple dark-colored pants
• Columbia navy fleece
• New Balance shoes
• 2 pairs of dark-colored boots
• Criminal Psychology book
• Note to Dad from Bryan

 

[iamshadow21]

I admit I can't see it.

But could it say "ID (UDS)"? As in "University of DeSales"? Actually, it's DeSales University, but the writer may not have known that.

Look at the rest of the document, at what are 'a' and 'd' letters for sure. The writer just leaves both open at the top virtually every time. Others spotted it too, and it's what convinced me it was 'cards' rather than a university or other organisation acronym between brackets.

MOO

 

[Dotta]

Did he have permit to have a gun?

 

[CSIDreamer]

10ofRods can speak for him/herself, as s/he is an expert.

But I suspect that by looking at the wear pattern of the ball of the foot, the length of the toes can be deduced. It isn't required that each toe or any toe leave an impression.

I could be wrong, but I don't think I am that OP is not a footprint expert, therefore I'm perfectly entitled to have an opinion. Further. OP was stating toeprints were visible in the latent footprint left from a shoe. Let me go back and check that. JMO

Ah. Possible TOEPRINTS in the latent footprint.

 

[steeltowngirl]

Final search warrants reveal knife, gun in Kohberger’s PA home

MONROE COUNTY (WBRE/WYOU) — The final two unsealed search warrants have revealed more about what police found in Bryan Kohberger’s family home in Pennsylvania’s Pocono Mountains in late Decemb…

www.pahomepage.com

According to documents, state police seized items inside the car including:

• 7 quarters, 36 dimes, 32 nickels, 8 pennies,
• Gloves
• Receipts
• Car insurance, registration
• Hiking boots
• Comfort Inn room key holder
• Tire irons,
• Shovel
• Goggles
• Wrench
• Door panel
• Band-aids

The second warrant was focusing on weapons inside the Kohberger’s home that could connect him to the scene of the crime, police stated.

The following items were seized from inside the home:

• Knife
• Glock 22. .40 Caliber
• Smith Wesson pocket knife
• Three Block .40 Caliber magazines that were empty
• Tayor cutlery knife with leather sheath
• Black face mask
• Black gloves
• Black hat
• Black mask
• AT&T bill for Bryan Kohberger
• Book with underlining on page 118
• Prescriptions
• Cell phone
• Laptop
• Multiple dark-colored pants
• Columbia navy fleece
• New Balance shoes
• 2 pairs of dark-colored boots
• Criminal Psychology book
• Note to Dad from Bryan

3 knives!
I want to know more about what was underlined in the book.
And of course the note to Dad.

 

[Down To Earth]

Sure would like to know the title of the book, with underlining on page 118.

Me too. Could it be from his professor Katherine Ramsland's book "The Mind Of A Murderer"? Page 118 would fall in the chapter about Ted Bundy, Al Carlisle, and James Dobson. Of course it could be any book in the universe, but it does seem intriguing that the underlining on a specific page is itemized, and that this book is not simply included with the haul of "vooks" that's listed on another line. If I'm an agent gathering items in this raid and came across a book like "The Mind Of A Murderer" or "How To Catch A Killer" or something similar, I would certainly fan through the pages just by nature. Even if it were a Ramsland or similar book, anything underlined could be attributed to his studies. But as circumstantial evidence I am very curious about this.

 

[jcamh]

Whether there is a reasonable expectation of privacy in trash is a classic essay question/research project for first-year law students. Some states recognize that trash contains things many consider private, such as birth control wrappers, RX labels, and layoff notices. Others - including PA - generally hold that there is no REOP when trash is placed on the curb for collection (versus on the property and not yet set out for collection). JMO.

My understanding about trash left at the curb is that once you put the trash at the curb, it is considered abandoned property.

 

[Cool Cats]

3 knives!
I want to know more about what was underlined in the book.
And of course the note to Dad.

Me too.

This is interesting considering the witness said she saw a man dressed in black wearing a mask:

• Black face mask
• Black gloves
• Black hat
• Black mask
• 2 pairs of dark-colored boots

 

[vls12345]

I think if it had been a regular thing with him to glove constantly, we would have heard about it at least from his fellow students at WSU or from the people who knew him from his apartment building. They talked about him being weird and staring and giving a strange vibe and being creepy and sexist, but no one mentioned wearing gloves all the time or being anxious about germs. According to a relative he was rigorous about the utensils used for his food, but that seems to be an attitude common to a number of vegans, based on prior conversations on the threads.

MOO

In the bodycam footage when BK and his dad were stopped twice during the drive back to PA, I didn't see BK wearing gloves of any kind.

I am guessing he had some gloves in his pants pockets so he would have them if he was out and about (either doing something nefarious or when shopping since I think there have been mentions of him wearing gloves when grocery shopping).

MOO.

 

[jcamh]

No idea, but I doubt it's oregano, and I suspect the general practice is to blaze it.

My guess is marijuana.

 

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[Idaho transplant]

Sure would like to know the title of the book, with underlining on page 118.

Has anyone thought to look at that page in the book his former professor wrote about the BTK?

 

[Nila Aella]

These:

• Item photographed but not taken
• Record of sale Glock 22. Gen s 40 Caliber
• New Balance shoes
• Note from Bryan from Montana
• Note in desk
• Note to Dad from Bryan
• A man's hand drawing
• Knife
• Taylor cutlery knife with leather sheath
• Black mask (different than face mask listed seperately)

So something interested them that they could not take (not on the warrant list)?
When did he buy the gun?
New balance shoes - soles I looked at were wavy and octagon (only a brief search). Maybe they were black shoes?
When was BK in Montana?
Is that a drawing of a hand? Or a hand drawn picture?
knife with no description
Taylor knife with sheath - they make fixed blade, pocket, and kitchen knives
No ammo?
MOO
edit: added MOO

 

[Down To Earth]

If the green leafy substance is indeed the devil's lettuce, that would explain leaving the knife sheath at the crime scene. Cuz like.....ummm......wait what was I saying?

Btw, the Vans waffle gum-sole is a tightly protected patent by the Van Doran Rubber Company, as is the press that creates the soles. No other shoe company can use a pattern within a certain degree of likeness to the Vans waffle sole. So while you see lots of knockoff brands of shoes that look like Vans, especially basic slip-ons, the single feature that distinguishes them apart from all other shoes is the pattern of the waffle sole. IMO with just a small portion of the print an expert analyzer would easily be able to determine if indeed the print is Vans, for whatever that's worth. This isn't a case of Elantra vs Prius vs whatever that we had with the car. If the print is determined NOT to be Vans though, then, again IMO, it might be more difficult to determine brand.

 

[isabella88]

My guess is marijuana.

Yep, BK is known to be a smoker: Bryan Kohberger’s former friends tell how he became addicted to heroin

He could have a medical marijuana card in PA. JMO

 

[Down To Earth]

Has anyone reading this ever kept anything inside of a glove inside of a box? If it's not his boxing gym ID cards inside of his boxing gloves in a sporting box of some type, then I am highly suspicious as it seems like a purposeful hiding place.