4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 74

[Gemmie]

MOO MOO the writer had a skip and repeated the word “inside”
my guess is they were interrupted. I believe it is meant to say:
“10 cards inside glove box.”

While I've been more apt to think what looks like a u is really an a (since many other a's in that long list look like u's)... the word cards has 5 letters and there looks like there are 6 letters in the word (to me).

And I was about to agree that it was a skip and they repeated the word 'inside' as you said (and they were saying it was found in the glove box)... but I got to thinking about that a little more. Things outlined on that list are what was taken, not where it was found. And they aren't going to take 10 something or others still inside the glove box by pulling the glove box out of the dash. So I'm back to it's 10 somethings, OR the first word could be 'ID' as others have posted, but whatever it was it was inside a glove and inside a box. All MOO

Knife, gun and ammunition seized from Bryan Kohberger's home

The full list of items seized by Pennsylvania police from Bryan Kohberger's parents' house was revealed on Thursday and includes a knife, gun, ammunition and a 'criminal psychology book'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[whiterhino]

BBM: I don't think it could mean something in the glove box of a car, only because the item is on the residence list of items seized not the car list. I don't think that LE/the FBI put the item on the wrong list, or at least I'm willing to assume that they didn't!

JMO but to me it says "inside glove, inside box" NOT "inside glove box". Possibly inside glove, inside a box, kept in the glove box of the Elantra?

 

[jepop]

JMO but to me it says "inside glove, inside box" NOT "inside glove box". Possibly inside glove, inside a box, kept in the glove box of the Elantra?

Yea, that is exactly what it says...the idea that the phrase "...inside a glove inside a box" might be a typo for "glove box" is a moot point I think, because the item did not come from the car search. It came from the residence search. It could only be a typo for a vehicle "glove box" if LE/the FBI seized a loose glove box inside the house (huh, the chances?!) or LE put this item on the residence list instead of the car list AND then removed the glove box from the car (which I assume is not the case). MOO

 

[Nila Aella]

While I've been more apt to think what looks like a u is really an a (since many other a's in that long list look like u's)... the word cards has 5 letters and there looks like there are 6 letters in the word (to me).

And I was about to agree that it was a skip and they repeated the word 'inside' as you said (and they were saying it was found in the glove box)... but I got to thinking about that a little more. Things outlined on that list are what was taken, not where it was found. And they aren't going to take 10 something or others still inside the glove box by pulling the glove box out of the dash. So I'm back to it's 10 somethings, OR the first word could be 'ID' as others have posted, but whatever it was it was inside a glove and inside a box. All MOO

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Knife, gun and ammunition seized from Bryan Kohberger's home

The full list of items seized by Pennsylvania police from Bryan Kohberger's parents' house was revealed on Thursday and includes a knife, gun, ammunition and a 'criminal psychology book'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

If you look at #52 on the list. The d in colored is also two strokes that do not connect, so it looks like 2 letters when it is really one. JMO

I am not sure if it is 10 or ID either. If it were ID cards I would think that a number would be listed.
What I am used to seeing on lists is the number written out and then the actual number in parentheses and then a description: Ten (10) cards, or Ten (10) ID cards.
I guess there is variation depending on who is writing the list?
JMO

https://twitter.com/x/status/1631295769000005632

 

[Gemmie]

If you look at #52 on the list. The d in colored is also two strokes that do not connect, so it looks like 2 letters when it is really one. JMO

I am not sure if it is 10 or ID either. If it were ID cards I would think that a number would be listed.
What I am used to seeing on lists is the number written out and then the actual number in parentheses and then a description: Ten (10) cards, or Ten (10) ID cards.
I guess there is variation depending on who is writing the list?
JMO

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1631295769000005632

Thank you for pointing that out! I had thought about comparing every letter in that long list to figure out that person's handwriting but then decided not to go through the time and trouble. Thank you for pointing this out!

And IMO that person needs take a course in our alphabet. With homework! smh

 

[Gemmie]

If you look at #52 on the list. The d in colored is also two strokes that do not connect, so it looks like 2 letters when it is really one. JMO

I am not sure if it is 10 or ID either. If it were ID cards I would think that a number would be listed.
What I am used to seeing on lists is the number written out and then the actual number in parentheses and then a description: Ten (10) cards, or Ten (10) ID cards.
I guess there is variation depending on who is writing the list?
JMO

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1631295769000005632

So then it COULD BE ID cards (and not 10 something or others with 6 letters)!!! Strange place to store ID cards though. At least for me. I don't put it past BK to do something like that. lol

 

[NyxNY]

Items seized from house:

1. Knife
2. S&W knife
3. Taylor Cutlery knife

I'm staying optimistic that # 1 item on the list "knife" is a roughly 7" blade. JMO

Same

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

BBM: I don't think it could mean something in the glove box of a car, only because the item is on the residence list of items seized not the car list.

I agree about it not being on the car list.
All during Covid I stuffed my used wipes and car garbage/food wrappers into used gloves. I also used them when I was organizing/cleaning out the car and as containers for small loose things. I believe it says 10 cards in a glove in a box and think it's possible that BK put them in the glove to bring them in from his car or to keep them from going all over the place in his bedroom. They could be business cards, punch cards, or from contacts/offices/professors at the university. It might be something totally different.
Maybe BK had the actual box for the gloves in the house. Then the items would have been inside a glove inside a glove box, but not in the car.

 

[Nichevo]

Interesting that they retrieved water bottles and wrappers from his “meticulously” cleaned car. Was this BCK’s effort to keep his DNA out of curbside trash? did he intend to dispose of it elsewhere later? I thought it was unusual they found his father’s DNA in garbage but not his?

 

[Nila Aella]

So then it COULD BE ID cards (and not 10 something or others with 6 letters)!!! Strange place to store ID cards though. At least for me. I don't put it past BK to do something like that. lol

I think it says: 10 cards inside glove (I think card holder) inside box (like on a dresser).

JMO

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Interesting that they retrieved water bottles and wrappers from his “meticulously” cleaned car. Was this BCK’s effort to keep his DNA out of curbside trash? did he intend to dispose of it elsewhere later? I thought it was unusual they found his father’s DNA in garbage but not his?

His father's DNA was collected before BK was in Pennslyvania for the purpose of determining that a male child of the father could be the source of the DNA found on the knife sheath. BK may have been guarding his own DNA, he would have no idea that they already had his father's.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Nichevo]

His father's DNA was collected before BK was in Pennslyvania for the purpose of determining that a male child of the father could be the source of the DNA found on the knife sheath. Correct me if I'm wrong.

My understanding is they collected DNA after both arrived back in PA. The airplane that transported BCK to Idaho had made an earlier trip from PA to Moscow/Pullman regional airport. MOO This was to transport DNA evidence. The genetic link was the “pivitol” evidence for issuing arrest warrant MOO.

 

[Nichevo]

My understanding is they collected DNA after both arrived back in PA. The airplane that transported BCK to Idaho had made an earlier trip from PA to Moscow/Pullman regional airport. MOO This was to transport DNA evidence. The genetic link was the “pivitol” evidence for issuing arrest warrant MOO.

I remember one of the flight tracker sleuths saying it was the second time that airplane had made that trip within a week, or similarly short time frame.

 

[Katrinepa]

Pulling this from the last thread, as I posted it a minute before the new thread.


Agree. IMO, raids should exist for worst-case scenarios. Not for arresting a suspect like BK in his parents' home after at least days of surveillance, unless LE saw something during surveillance that suggested BK would get violent.

BK was not an active shooter or kidnapper. I think LE could have taken him peacefully and without traumatizing his family and destroying their property. Even if they used less force that night, arriving at around 1:30 a.m. afforded them the element of surprise.

I suspect the raid occurred because this is a case followed nationally and also because LE likes to test its toys. The latter may not be a popular statement, but I'm standing by it. There are many examples of this type of LE activity that ended in lost lives.

This raid may have satisfied those of us who feel anger toward BK but that doesn't mean the raid was appropriate.

All JMO.

He did drive back to PA with his Father, and did not know if they both may be involved. As we do not know What LE knew, I would be more likely to trust LE judgement. I do not live far from the town, but do not have all details either. MOO

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I think it says: 10 cards inside glove (I think card holder) inside box (like on a dresser).

JMO

I am fully persuaded of the exact same interpretation since the items were from the house not the car. Now, if we could get every single other person on this forum round to the same point of view and stop talking about curls of hair or cards hidden inside hand gloves. ...

 

[Nila Aella]

His father's DNA was collected before BK was in Pennslyvania for the purpose of determining that a male child of the father could be the source of the DNA found on the knife sheath. BK may have been guarding his own DNA, he would have no idea that they already had his father's.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

It was collected December 27th 2022 in PA.

On December 27, 2022, Pennsylvania Agents recovered the trash from the Kohberger family residence located in Albrightsville, PA. That evidence was sent to the Idaho State Lab for testing. On December 28,2022, the Idaho State Lab reported that a DNA profile obtained ftom the trash and the DNA profile obtained from the sheath, identified a male as not being excluded as the bioiogical father of Suspect Profile. At least 99.9998% of the male population would be expected to be excluded from the possibility of being the suspect's biological father.

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/122922%20Affidavit%20-%20Exhibit%20A%20-%20Statement%20of%20Brett-Payne.pdf

 

[kae27]

So then it COULD BE ID cards (and not 10 something or others with 6 letters)!!! Strange place to store ID cards though. At least for me. I don't put it past BK to do something like that. lol

I was resisting at first the idea that it said "ID cards," but I've come around to decide I was wrong. That looks much more like a "D" than a "0" given the vertical line on the left side of the figure. The only way I end up with a "0" that looks like that is if I accidentally put a "1" and then try to make it a "0". It also looks exactly like the capital "D" that is in item 32 on the prior page, where it says "Desales."

Seems fairly clear to me that it's a capital "D" given all of that.

Link to prior page with item 32.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

His father's DNA was collected before BK was in Pennslyvania for the purpose of determining that a male child of the father could be the source of the DNA found on the knife sheath. BK may have been guarding his own DNA, he would have no idea that they already had his father's.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes, his father's DNA was covertly tested in order to prove the familial link to that found on the knife sheath IIRC, cannot provide link

 

[Katrinepa]

PA is different, I guess? I have friends who grew up in Maine, New Hampshire. Some still have houses there now. I went to school in the Berkshires for 6 years (4+2) and spent the first 28 years of my life in the city of Boston. Traveling often up into New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont. Frequented NYC and Upstate New York to visit friends. Fall, Spring, Summer, and the dead of winter.

Never had a shovel in my trunk. Never knew anyone who had a shovel in their truck. But then again I lived in California and always laughed at people who rode around with snow chains in their trunk. I never knew those even existed. Maybe us New Englanders are just different? MOO

My Dad(we living in NJ and NY) always had a Snow shovel in the trunk of the car.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Can someone please remind me, or summarise, what *was* the point of the road trip that BK and his father went on as far as we know? What explanation was given to the police at the stops they had and what do people think the intention was?