4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #89

[Chloegirl]

DBM

 

[maskedwoman]

https://x.com/angenette5/status/1711534234035159171?s=61&t=Vp-AZ81ShrhzLNqqCFHAgA

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I went and scanned the Blum article and was beyond floored when he wrote that SG "skulked away" after this alleged FBI letter. Anyone with Blum's experience would know what sort of visual that created, and it was a low blow IMO. I was impressed by the restraint in the Goncalves family statement.

 

[ktm44]

Does VSS affect depth perception?

Might be an organic reason for tailgating?

JMO

We only have the word of someone posting online that used an assumed old email of his that indicates this was the case but even if it is fact, it doesn't give him a pass for bad driving, bad behaviour or any other misconduct.

If this condition is fact and affects his driving so badly that he seemingly shouldn't drive at night and can't function well enough to obey rules of the road, his license should have been suspended or restricted.

 

[Montecore1]

The police took the video footage to an FBI officer who specializes in identifying vehicles. Not only was the officer an expert on types and makes of vehicles, but he also knew that there were regional differences in the same make of car—sometimes a certain part may be used for cars sold in one part of America but not in another.



MOO

Regional Differences in same make of car??? @Monticore Or Others?

@girlhasnoname snipped for focus. Not meaning to doubt you or FBI on this Regional Differences point, but just curious about something new to me.

@Monticore Your posts offered critical insight in earlier threads about the Elantra identification.

Are those RDs detectable based on photos of vehicle's exterior?
Or are those RDs tucked away under the hood so to speak and not visible from ext. pix, even to eyes of professionals?
TiA.

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As an example, I'm assuming that exteriors of vehicles meeting certain California's emission standards (also adopted by other states, including Pennsylvania) would not look different from vehicles not meeting those standards. Doesn't seem that would be visible, but we know about ppl making

There are not regional differences in the exterior of vehicles sold in the US, there is no reason for that and it would be a parts replacement nightmare for the manufacturers, for aftermarket parts companies and even for the insurers.
Now, the only "regional" difference one may have is something internally with the vehicles cooling system due to much colder weather in the north than in the south but I have only seen that difference in trucks, not cars, even then you would not be able to be see that on the exterior of the vehicle.
There could also be emissions difference, usually only California sold automobiles but again that would not be able to be seen or identified from the exterior of the auto.
Now cars/trucks sold in different countries can vary in exterior design greatly...but there are no differences here in the good ol' USofA. An Elantra bought in NY, Cali, Florida or Texas are all identical in appearance.

Hope this helps @al66pine

 

[Baby baby Jane]

There are not regional differences in the exterior of vehicles sold in the US, there is no reason for that and it would be a parts replacement nightmare for the manufacturers, for aftermarket parts companies and even for the insurers.
Now, the only "regional" difference one may have is something internally with the vehicles cooling system due to much colder weather in the north than in the south but I have only seen that difference in trucks, not cars, even then you would not be able to be see that on the exterior of the vehicle.
There could also be emissions difference, usually only California sold automobiles but again that would not be able to be seen or identified from the exterior of the auto.
Now cars/trucks sold in different countries can vary in exterior design greatly...but there are no differences here in the good ol' USofA. An Elantra bought in NY, Cali, Florida or Texas are all identical in appearance.

Hope this helps @al66pine

Canada … might be different spec, quite close to Idaho.

 

[Montecore1]

Canada … might be different spec, quite close to Idaho.

I would bet my bottom dollar that in 2015 Mr & Mrs Kohberger didn't leave there community in the Poconos to travel to Canada in order to buy a new Hyundai, pay the extra duties and fees instead of the Hyundai dealership 40 miles away. But hey...MOO!

 

[maskedwoman]

There are not regional differences in the exterior of vehicles sold in the US, there is no reason for that and it would be a parts replacement nightmare for the manufacturers, for aftermarket parts companies and even for the insurers.
Now, the only "regional" difference one may have is something internally with the vehicles cooling system due to much colder weather in the north than in the south but I have only seen that difference in trucks, not cars, even then you would not be able to be see that on the exterior of the vehicle.
There could also be emissions difference, usually only California sold automobiles but again that would not be able to be seen or identified from the exterior of the auto.
Now cars/trucks sold in different countries can vary in exterior design greatly...but there are no differences here in the good ol' USofA. An Elantra bought in NY, Cali, Florida or Texas are all identical in appearance.

Hope this helps @al66pine

That makes much more sense than what was presented in that article. I would love to be able to ask some of these "reporters" where on earth they come up with this crazy stuff.

 

[al66pine]

There are not regional differences in the exterior of vehicles sold in the US, there is no reason for that and it would be a parts replacement nightmare for the manufacturers, for aftermarket parts companies and even for the insurers.
Now, the only "regional" difference one may have is something internally with the vehicles cooling system due to much colder weather in the north than in the south but I have only seen that difference in trucks, not cars, even then you would not be able to be see that on the exterior of the vehicle.
There could also be emissions difference, usually only California sold automobiles but again that would not be able to be seen or identified from the exterior of the auto.
Now cars/trucks sold in different countries can vary in exterior design greatly...but there are no differences here in the good ol' USofA. An Elantra bought in NY, Cali, Florida or Texas are all identical in appearance.

Hope this helps @al66pine

@Montecore1 First, apologies for getting your name wrong in my OP.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge from the world of vehicles.

So many pro's in different fields offering wisdom here.

@maskedwoman (Like you say)
Hard to know how the error in referenced post occurred but seems likely a reported misunderstood FBI employee's explanation. And/or a human glitch in the editing process or the pressure to "get the scoop."

 

[schooling]

I would bet my bottom dollar that in 2015 Mr & Mrs Kohberger didn't leave there community in the Poconos to travel to Canada in order to buy a new Hyundai, pay the extra duties and fees instead of the Hyundai dealership 40 miles away. But hey...MOO!

That information has already been revealed...

• BK was the fourth owner of the Elantra.
• The first was a rental car company. Hertz I believe.
• Hertz sold it as all rental car companies do.
• The second owner purchased it from Hertz's used car dealership in NJ and registered it in the Poconos.
• The third owner appeared to purchase it privately or had it gifted to them, registered it in Maryland.
• The car then returned to the Poconos area and was put for sale on a lot there. This is what makes me believe that it might have been a gift or transferred within a family.
• The fourth owner was BK. He bought it off that lot in the Poconos and registered it in the Poconos.
• It never really left the Northeast of the United States which definitely raises some mileage eye brows (just how many trips did BK make to WA???).

I have the name of the place where he actually bought it and I'm pretty sure it's in the full Carfax. I have a copy can't find my source so will refrain from positing it. I have the X (Twitter) thread below bookmarked as "Carfax".

It's from Nicole from Krem 2 who is an approved source and works for an approved source.

I can see a screenshot of at least 2 pages of the CarFax is in her X (Twitter) thread...I don't have an account so don't know if there's more there. You'll notice the VIN number matches the one in the PCA and the one that I decoded.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610471582459387907

 

[schooling]

That information has already been revealed...

• BK was the fourth owner of the Elantra.
• The first was a rental car company. Hertz I believe.
• Hertz sold it as all rental car companies do.
• The second owner purchased it from Hertz's used car dealership in NJ and registered it in the Poconos.
• The third owner appeared to purchase it privately or had it gifted to them, registered it in Maryland.
• The car then returned to the Poconos area and was put for sale on a lot there. This is what makes me believe that it might have been a gift or transferred within a family.
• The fourth owner was BK. He bought it off that lot in the Poconos and registered it in the Poconos.
• It never really left the Northeast of the United States which definitely raises some mileage eye brows (just how many trips did BK make to WA???).

I have the name of the place where he actually bought it and I'm pretty sure it's in the full Carfax. I have a copy can't find my source so will refrain from positing it. I have the X (Twitter) thread below bookmarked as "Carfax".

It's from Nicole who is an approved source and works for an approved source.

I can see a screenshot of at least 2 pages of the CarFax is in her X (Twitter) thread...I don't have an account so don't know if there's more there. You'll notice the VIN number matches the one in the PCA and the one that I decoded.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610471582459387907

Self quoting so i don't clutter up that thread...

According to the CarFax that Nicole from KREM 2 posted...

• 1/15/2020 after buy the car a few weeks prior, BK officially registers it with 77,033 miles on it.
• 6/25/2020 over the lasts 5 months only 3,000 miles have been put on the car. It's now at 80,243.
• 8/13/2021 over the last 14 months BK has put an additional 14,000 miles on the Elantra, as recorded during a service and tire change in the Poconos. The mileage is now at 94,328.
• 8/15/2022 a year later. BK arrives in WA with 111,808 on the odometer. Racking up another 17,000 in 12 months.

I know people who travel a good distance for work, or have a bunch of kids to drive around, or they themselves commute to school day in and day out. Those people regularly put 15k+ miles on a car every year.

But I'm starting to wonder how many trips BK made out to Pullman (or other colleges in consideration) in the time he owned his Elantra. Especially in the 12 month span where he put 17,000 miles on it...which is an average of 1,400 miles a month.

 

[Justice101]

Why do I get the feeling that this trial will not be until 2025?

 

[maskedwoman]

Self quoting so i don't clutter up that thread...

According to the CarFax that Nicole from KREM 2 posted...

• 1/15/2020 after buy the car a few weeks prior, BK officially registers it with 77,033 miles on it.
• 6/25/2020 over the lasts 5 months only 3,000 miles have been put on the car. It's now at 80,243.
• 8/13/2021 over the last 14 months BK has put an additional 14,000 miles on the Elantra, as recorded during a service and tire change in the Poconos. The mileage is now at 94,328.
• 8/15/2022 a year later. BK arrives in WA with 111,808 on the odometer. Racking up another 17,000 in 12 months.

I know people who travel a good distance for work, or have a bunch of kids to drive around, or they themselves commute to school day in and day out. Those people regularly put 15k+ miles on a car every year.

But I'm starting to wonder how many trips BK made out to Pullman (or other colleges in consideration) in the time he owned his Elantra. Especially in the 12 month span where he put 17,000 miles on it...which is an average of 1,400 miles a month.

Great details. That is a lot of miles in a short period of time. He went from averaging 20 miles a day to a little over 32 miles a day in the first 19 months. Then another year goes by and his average is up to around 46 miles a day - while going to school online. Either he made several long road trips or he was doing a lot of night driving.

 

[schooling]

I went and scanned the Blum article and was beyond floored when he wrote that SG "skulked away" after this alleged FBI letter. Anyone with Blum's experience would know what sort of visual that created, and it was a low blow IMO. I was impressed by the restraint in the Goncalves family statement.

i wanted to keep reading after the first article in the series. But his insistence on characterizing and sensationalizing details that he coudln't have possibly known turned me off. it's too bad too. I'm a big fan of his Guilianni vs the Mob book (name escapes me) and always looked out for his long reads on Vanity Fair.

 

[schooling]

Great details. That is a lot of miles in a short period of time. He went from averaging 20 miles a day to a little over 32 miles a day in the first 19 months. Then another year goes by and his average is up to around 46 miles a day - while going to school online. Either he made several long road trips or he was doing a lot of night driving.

It's a 5,000 mile round trip from his home in PA to Pullman. I remember people speculated that he may have driven out to Pullman for a campus visit prior to moving there...17,000 miles certainly supports some of that speculation.

 

[Helechawagirl]

We only have the word of someone posting online that used an assumed old email of his that indicates this was the case but even if it is fact, it doesn't give him a pass for bad driving, bad behaviour or any other misconduct.

If this condition is fact and affects his driving so badly that he seemingly shouldn't drive at night and can't function well enough to obey rules of the road, his license should have been suspended or restricted.

That same email stated he saw better or found it less stressful to see at night.

 

[Balthazar]

Self quoting so i don't clutter up that thread...

According to the CarFax that Nicole from KREM 2 posted...

• 1/15/2020 after buy the car a few weeks prior, BK officially registers it with 77,033 miles on it.
• 6/25/2020 over the lasts 5 months only 3,000 miles have been put on the car. It's now at 80,243.
• 8/13/2021 over the last 14 months BK has put an additional 14,000 miles on the Elantra, as recorded during a service and tire change in the Poconos. The mileage is now at 94,328.
• 8/15/2022 a year later. BK arrives in WA with 111,808 on the odometer. Racking up another 17,000 in 12 months.

I know people who travel a good distance for work, or have a bunch of kids to drive around, or they themselves commute to school day in and day out. Those people regularly put 15k+ miles on a car every year.

But I'm starting to wonder how many trips BK made out to Pullman (or other colleges in consideration) in the time he owned his Elantra. Especially in the 12 month span where he put 17,000 miles on it...which is an average of 1,400 miles a month.

DeSales University was about 45-50 minutes from his parents home where he was living, so some of the mileage may be accounted for by driving to school for classes, although I think I read he mostly attended class remotely. It may also indicate that his assertion in his alibi that he has a longstanding habit of driving around at night, is true. JMO.

 

[schooling]

DeSales University was about 45-50 minutes from his parents home where he was living, so some of the mileage may be accounted for by driving to school for classes, although I think I read he mostly attended class remotely. It may also indicate that his assertion in his alibi that he has a longstanding habit of driving around at night, is true. JMO.

I thought I had included the night driving thing being a plausible explanation. I tend to edit my posts a thousand times before I finally let them go. So it was probably edited out.

I have a friend who had to roll $17,000 in negative equity into a new car loan because his lease trade was grossly over its allotted miles. He was a night driver. Visited friends in other states any chance he got.

 

[katydid23]

Great details. That is a lot of miles in a short period of time. He went from averaging 20 miles a day to a little over 32 miles a day in the first 19 months. Then another year goes by and his average is up to around 46 miles a day - while going to school online. Either he made several long road trips or he was doing a lot of night driving.

An average of 46 miles per day is a lot for someone who lives on the same campus where they work and go to school.

Where is he driving to and from besides that? Is it from his long, late night drives? Strange to consider, since that is what serial predators often do. JMO

 

[arielilane]

7 minute video​

Bryan Kohberger's Internet Searches​

10.8.2023
New requests asks for internet data from accused killer, Bryan Kohberger, as prosecutors look for more evidence to prove Kohberger was at the crime scene of the quadruple murder in Idaho. Kohberger's next court date is on October 26, 2023 for a Motion to Dismiss hearing.

For anyone who is interested.

 

[Balthazar]

Just out of curiosity, I looked up how many miles Genesee is from Pullman and it is 23 miles - so maybe he was going there and back on some of his late night drives? That seemed to be where BK's car was when it started pinging the tower near Blaine.