4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #91

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

That's an fascinating question about whether BK will want or need to be understood. I have always wondered what makes the difference between someone who wants or needs their crimes to be "understood" versus killers who don't care at all about that.

The other day, I caught the tail end of a program on ID. The confessed killer was suspected of more murders, but they didn't have the evidence to charge him for those. The guy's wife had stood by him through it all. He said he wanted to talk to the FBI's profilers and psychologists to understand why he did the things he did. The detectives told him the FBI wouldn't the interested in him because he was not a serial killer. They said he sat there a minute, looked at his wife, then proceeded to confess to the other murders so the FBI would talk to him! Blew my mind at first, but I was very impressed that the detectives recognized a need of his that they could exploit.

Wow, great use of very basic reverse psychology there by detectives!

Also, possibly true... nobody at the FBI really interested in your 'special and different' psychology dude, not here to facilitate your greater understanding of yourself, tell it to a therapist or priest or something.

 

[Valen2]

No I cannot picture BK admitting to the world anything to do with these murders. He is too arrogant and self assured (he's the smartest guy in the room according to him and a lot of the people in class and the few friends he did have), although on the other hand, socially, he is a complete square peg trying to fit into a round hole.

MOO

I wonder if he would see it as bragging. He was so smart that he managed to get in and out and murder four people without being stopped. So many people have said they struggle with accepting that one person could do so much damage in such a short amount of time, that there must be someone else involved. He might see that as a point of pride, which is horrible but possible.

 

[303gmf]

Once trash is out on the curb, anyone can access it.

Yes, thanks for the reminder
Rex Heuerman, LISK suspect discarded a pizza box resulting in his dna sample

 

[girlhasnoname]

Yes, thanks for the reminder
Rex Heuerman, LISK suspect discarded a pizza box resulting in his dna sample

I've never been so stoked about discarded pizza

 

[Justice101]

Yes, thanks for the reminder
Rex Heuerman, LISK suspect discarded a pizza box resulting in his dna sample

yep, old Rexy had no clue he was being surveilled.

They kept the idea that they were onto him so quietly so long.. amazing job especially with 30 agents working on the case

 

[arielilane]

@alcaprari23

It's my first time back on King Rd since the demolition. I stood in front of the house more times than I can remember for liveshots. It's admittedly a little strange to see it gone. Flowers, candles and teddy bears still remain outside on this rainy day in Moscow.







6:37 PM · Jan 24, 2024 from Moscow, ID

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[Deleted member 718]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1750508820323803412

 

[SpiderFalcon]

https://s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/isc.coi/CR29-22-2805/2024/012324-Order-to-Seal-and-Redact-TikTok.pdf

https://s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/isc.coi/CR29-22-2805/2024/012324-Order-to-Seal-and-Redact-Microsoft.pdf

https://s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/isc.coi/CR29-22-2805/2024/012324-Order-to-Seal-and-Redact-Meta-Platforms.pdf

https://s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/isc.coi/CR29-22-2805/2024/012324-Order-Setting-Sealed-Hearing.pdf

These were new on the Idaho Judicial Cases of Interest this morning....

 

[10ofRods]

https://s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/isc.coi/CR29-22-2805/2024/012324-Order-to-Seal-and-Redact-TikTok.pdf

https://s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/isc.coi/CR29-22-2805/2024/012324-Order-to-Seal-and-Redact-Microsoft.pdf

https://s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/isc.coi/CR29-22-2805/2024/012324-Order-to-Seal-and-Redact-Meta-Platforms.pdf

https://s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/isc.coi/CR29-22-2805/2024/012324-Order-Setting-Sealed-Hearing.pdf

These were new on the Idaho Judicial Cases of Interest this morning....

Sure does pique my curiousity, that's for sure. If there were no meaningful returns on those warrants, there'd be no need to seal and redact, methinks. ICBW of course.

 

[gremlin444]

Sure does pique my curiousity, that's for sure. If there were no meaningful returns on those warrants, there'd be no need to seal and redact, methinks. ICBW of course.

And of note: AT's statement of BK having no connection to the victim was made in June (25th?) 2023. Note the return dates on these 3 warrants: Microsoft and TikTok are August 25th, Meta was Sept 12th.

Trying to think if we've read/heard/seen the defense continue to make that claim after these return dates

 

[Chloegirl]

And of note: AT's statement of BK having no connection to the victim was made in June (25th?) 2023. Note the return dates on these 3 warrants: Microsoft and TikTok are August 25th, Meta was Sept 12th.

Trying to think if we've read/heard/seen the defense continue to make that claim after these return dates

We have not. It was a statement but not a repeated one, to my recollection.

 

[Idaho transplant]

Bryan is a "know it all" and intelligent "book wise." I can tell from the Pullman video of his traffic stop that he will talk your ear off and has all the answers and quick retorts and arguments.

I do not see him quietly sitting there listening to his counsel for more than a couple minutes before he pipes up his theories on the case and his ideas on defense - his arguments against LE's evidence against him.

He probably has all the answers to the evidence against him including this "surprise" evidence we are supposed to hear about at trial during defense questioning. This being his alibi.

2 Cents

Bryan Kohberger Update: Alibi revealed in new court document

The suspect's defense lawyers claim that their client was out for a nightly drive when four students were killed near the University of Idaho.

www.newsweek.com

"Mr. Kohberger was out driving alone," the defense team added. "Corroborating evidence may come from cross-examination of state's witnesses. Corroborating evidence may come from presentation of defense experts. Mr. Kohberger is aware of and will comply with his continuing duty to disclose information."

Were the coveralls ever listed in the inventory recovered by police?

If BK had NOT left the sheath behind, would this an unsolved crime?

 

[Cool Cats]

Were the coveralls ever listed in the inventory recovered by police?

If BK had NOT left the sheath behind, would this an unsolved crime?

Coveralls are pure speculation.

Interesting question. I wondered about that too. Had he not left the sheath would he have been arrested?
Would he be free now?

Maybe someone on here has ideas.

Tell you what, if he hadn't left the sheath and had left his phone home, I do not think he would have been arrested.

 

[Boxer]

Bryan Kohberger has ‘no connection’ to University of Idaho murder victims, defense claims

University of Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger has “no connection” to the victims, his defense team insisted in court documents filed ahead of the former graduate student’s hearing on Tuesday.…

nypost.com

Though quoted in articles later, it looks like the last claim by defense that there was no connection between BK and the victims was on June 26, 2023.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Were the coveralls ever listed in the inventory recovered by police?

If BK had NOT left the sheath behind, would this an unsolved crime?

I have wondered this many times. What else did LE have to go on / could they have gone with if not for the sheath and where would it have left them ?

 

[twall]

FF to 2:00 if you don't want to listen to AB! Alex C. shows a nice memorial at Mad Greek.

 

[katydid23]

Yes, thanks for the reminder
Rex Heuerman, LISK suspect discarded a pizza box resulting in his dna sample

I've never been so stoked about discarded pizza

Yes, discarded pizza can be a big blunder in a murder case. Darren Wint doing LWOP because he left some discarded pizza I a box behind, after he murdered a family in Wash DC. His DNA sealed his pathetic fate.


ETA:
On May 14, 2015, three members of the Savopoulos family—Savvas, Amy, and their son Philip—as well as their housekeeper, Veralicia Figueroa, were killed at the Savopoulos home in Washington, D.C. The victims were held hostage for 19 hours, starting on May 13.

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[katydid23]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1750508820323803412

I wonder what the 1 pm meeting tomorrow is about? Anyone remember?

 

[twall]

I wonder what the 1 pm meeting tomorrow is about? Anyone remember?

At 1 pm PT, the court will hold a second hearing for Kohberger, but this will be open to the public and broadcast live on CourtTV.com. That hearing will address a separate motion from the defense, which is asking the judge to reconsider his previous refusal to dismiss the indictment for inaccurate instructions to the grand jury. That motion argued that the grand jury should have been told to find “proof beyond a reasonable doubt” rather than current Idaho law, which states, “The grand jury ought to find an indictment when all the evidence before them, taken together, if unexplained or uncontradicted, would, in their judgment, warrant a conviction by trial jury.”

Following the hearings, the judge has set a scheduling conference, where the parties are expected to set a date for what is predicted to be a six-week trial.

Bryan Kohberger to appear at two hearings to try to dismiss indictment

Bryan Kohberger will have two hearings in court on Friday to try to dismiss the indictment, one of which will be open to the public.

www.courttv.com

 

[Cool Cats]

I wonder what the 1 pm meeting tomorrow is about? Anyone remember?

Judge will set schedule, hear motion to dismiss indictment at Kohberger hearing Friday

MOSCOW, Idaho - Attorneys for accused quadruple killer Bryan Kohberger will again ask a judge Friday to dismiss the grand jury indictment used to charge him with killing four University

www.kxly.com

The 11:00am hearing is closed and will feature arguments to dismiss based on what the defense refers to as biased grand jury, inadmissible evidence, lack of sufficient evidence and prosecutorial misconduct.

The 1:00pm hearing is open and will be arguments pertaining to what the defense believes were inaccurate grand jury instructions.

After those hearings, Judge Judge plans to hold a scheduling hearing, which would set the trial date and future hearing dates in the case.